NOBODY is a bit too much there. There will be people who buy these devices. They are the exact same idiots who bought the ZUNE, ZUNE HD.
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Microsoft Announces New 'Surface' Tablet, New Hardware and Software Based on Windows 8
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NOBODY is a bit too much there. There will be people who buy these devices. They are the exact same idiots who bought the ZUNE, ZUNE HD.
Then you haven't seen what Windows 8 can do with multitouch trackpad. This was the demo back in Nov 2011. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mL_jasHqrVI
Apple may not have invented it but they own a patent for it.
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...coded-magnet-patent-for-ipad-smart-cover.html
But anyone who uses a Microsoft product is stupid, right?
come on guy - you know exactly what I am ranting on
Even though I'm a staunch Windows user, I have an iPhone & iPad and love them both. Obviously Apple has a huge head start over Microsoft, but I am glad to see Microsoft entering the tablet arena. I think competition (assuming Microsoft actually becomes a competitor) is generally good for the marketplace so it will be interesting to see how the next few years unfold because its going to take that long to see if Microsoft gains any real traction.
Interesting design, especially the keyboard.
At $899-999, most people will simply buy a MBA. Sorry, Microsofties.
Apples still "just work."
What really intrigues me is that there were no real app demos, no pricing, no battery specs, and no real press interaction with the device.
Last group to do that? RIM with the Playbook.
Prediction: dud. They announced it too early, although it looks cool, it's still very beta.
Short your MS.
At $899-999, most people will simply buy a MBA. Sorry, Microsofties.
Apples still "just work."
What really intrigues me is that there were no real app demos, no pricing, no battery specs, and no real press interaction with the device.
Last group to do that? RIM with the Playbook.
Prediction: dud. They announced it too early, although it looks cool, it's still very beta.
Short your MS.
I think this is great and interesting news on many fronts:
1)Now there is some real competition in the tablet space.
2)Microsoft, like Apple, is owning the hardware and OS which means MS can be held accountable for all pros/cons of the product as well as success/failure. That being said, and the Zune fiasco, you have to bet that MS has invested a LOT of money into this. Tablets are an entire new pc experience and MS wants its fair piece of the pie.
3)For all the people ranting about the missing "ecosystem" and thousands of apps that do not exist yet (but do on iOS), a typical user does not own thousands of apps. 10-20 at most probably. Some of the apps I own are because Apple didn't bother to include them in the first place (no basic games like Solitaire, no Contacts exporter/importer, no way to save files (not mp3 and not jpg) on my iPad, etc). MS doesn't need a gazillion apps...it only needs what is necessary to match/beat iPad and it will pick up speed from there. Likely MS has already targeted the top 100 apps' authors with a great promotion to get them to port their app to MS.
4)Products are different. This MS one with standard ports like USB 3.0 imply fast adoptability (what's that? I can plug in any USB device without buying an "adapter"?!) and also fast transfers (external storage like a flash key or if you wanted to backup your 64GB MS tablet over USB3.0 it will be wayyyy faster than iPad's non-standard USB 2.0 connector). I also welcome the real, physical keyboard. The iPad keyboard is poor for typing longer than 5 minutes. If I want to write a few-paragraph email or directions/instructions, I'll go to my computer and type it up 5x faster. But the iPad is also not aimed at 5+ minute typing.
5)Apple, as others have said, have some fire under their butts now to actually compete...better pricing, better/more features, and more model options possibly. I would love to see an iPad 4 with a $100 price cut AND start at 32GB in size while maintaining the other tech specs (cpu, ram, etc) so Apple's not playing a shell game. So $399 for an iPad 4 with 32GB storage, $499 for 64GB, and $599 for 128GB...all other tech specs the same.
6)Better surfing? I'm not going to jump on the Flash wagon but there are still a LOT of retail websites that are simply terrible on the iPad. In fact, the only website we purchase from on the iPad is Amazon. Besides, Safari in general has a bit to be desired on the iPad (especially the caching).
7)Wireless printing? I have a feeling the answer is yes...and supports more than the 10 printers Apple does.
I'm very interested in seeing this. We own an iPad 1 and 3 and enjoy them, but there's a lot that can be improved on the iPad...which I detailed at the 1 release and 0 have been enhanced/fixed to date. They are not deal killers, but they are annoying nonetheless. Some examples:
1)Now there is some real competition in the tablet space.
2)Microsoft, like Apple, is owning the hardware and OS which means MS can be held accountable for all pros/cons of the product as well as success/failure. That being said, and the Zune fiasco, you have to bet that MS has invested a LOT of money into this. Tablets are an entire new pc experience and MS wants its fair piece of the pie.
3)For all the people ranting about the missing "ecosystem" and thousands of apps that do not exist yet (but do on iOS), a typical user does not own thousands of apps. 10-20 at most probably. Some of the apps I own are because Apple didn't bother to include them in the first place (no basic games like Solitaire, no Contacts exporter/importer, no way to save files (not mp3 and not jpg) on my iPad, etc). MS doesn't need a gazillion apps...it only needs what is necessary to match/beat iPad and it will pick up speed from there. Likely MS has already targeted the top 100 apps' authors with a great promotion to get them to port their app to MS.
4)Products are different. This MS one with standard ports like USB 3.0 imply fast adoptability (what's that? I can plug in any USB device without buying an "adapter"?!) and also fast transfers (external storage like a flash key or if you wanted to backup your 64GB MS tablet over USB3.0 it will be wayyyy faster than iPad's non-standard USB 2.0 connector). I also welcome the real, physical keyboard. The iPad keyboard is poor for typing longer than 5 minutes. If I want to write a few-paragraph email or directions/instructions, I'll go to my computer and type it up 5x faster. But the iPad is also not aimed at 5+ minute typing.
5)Apple, as others have said, have some fire under their butts now to actually compete...better pricing, better/more features, and more model options possibly. I would love to see an iPad 4 with a $100 price cut AND start at 32GB in size while maintaining the other tech specs (cpu, ram, etc) so Apple's not playing a shell game. So $399 for an iPad 4 with 32GB storage, $499 for 64GB, and $599 for 128GB...all other tech specs the same.
6)Better surfing? I'm not going to jump on the Flash wagon but there are still a LOT of retail websites that are simply terrible on the iPad. In fact, the only website we purchase from on the iPad is Amazon. Besides, Safari in general has a bit to be desired on the iPad (especially the caching).
7)Wireless printing? I have a feeling the answer is yes...and supports more than the 10 printers Apple does.
I'm very interested in seeing this. We own an iPad 1 and 3 and enjoy them, but there's a lot that can be improved on the iPad...which I detailed at the 1 release and 0 have been enhanced/fixed to date. They are not deal killers, but they are annoying nonetheless. Some examples:
- lack of printing
- mono speakers
- 0 standard peripheral support (USB devices for example)
- poor parental controls
- poor overall security (can't keep people from deleting my pix is an example)
- inability to prompt for passwords if you have multiple email accounts (would be nice to have 1 iPad for the family, all 3 of us have our emails on the 1 iPad, yet each time we use email, we are prompted for a pw so I don't read my wife's email)
- virtual keyboard is ok for quick emails but poor for longer writing
- 0 games included
- 4MB email outbound attachment size is a COMPLETE joke and slap in the face
- Like the iPhone, any recorded videos are compressed before emailing...no option of retaining 100% quality
- No feature in iTunes to get my pix off the iPad
- No feature in iTunes to get my vids off the iPad
- No feature to get my vids off the iPad in full quality
Seems like some interesting competition for the iPad and that IMO is a great thing, it can only drive both platforms forward in a bit to stay ahead.
Microsoft doesn't make laptops. And what's the difference with the iPad cannibalizing Mac sales?
Hm...Competition is nice but.....the screen is so obviously inferior to the base new iPad ($499).
Maybe they can even undercut the iPad pricing more if they take the screen off the device.
I've been going off the Windows 8 consumer preview experiences as I figured that would be close to what Windows 8 is launched as. If they can put in good trackpads on these devices with good drivers then great. Really. I'd be happy if they do this. As it stands, they don't seem to be doing this.
What is this new category?
1) It runs windows
2) It has a keyboard
3) It has a touch screen (capacitive)
I know of the same category of devices back in 2005. They are called toshiba protege (the laptops that flip and you can use a stylus).
This thing will fail.
The original poster was fully aware that 17mm is NOT of the tablet, but the tablet + a case. He was intentionally misleading the reader. It's exactly the same as if I was saying the iPad is 17mm.
The built in stand is just cheesy and something that can easily be broken or damaged by a small kid.
One thing about the iPad is that there is nothing on it that can be "broken off"
Also, the reversable stands for the iPad can usually be used to stand it up OR tilt it at a slight angle on your lap or other situations.
I think this will appeal to a very small segment of overall tablet buyers.
One thing about the iPad is that there is nothing on it that can be "broken off"
Also, the reversable stands for the iPad can usually be used to stand it up OR tilt it at a slight angle on your lap or other situations.
I think this will appeal to a very small segment of overall tablet buyers.
If you actually owned any stock in AAPL, you will say otherwise.
The thing that does trouble me is remembering other MSFT ventures, they do have quite the warchest to sink ungodly amounts of cash into a product, in spite of competition. MSFT VS. Sony xbox vs Playstation. We know who won that bloody battle. I don't think they can beat Apple, but can be a real headache for a long time. Look like this Frankenstein mess will be a failure at least in the beginning. Question is can they get better? They do have ecosystem potential... Anyhow I'm done here. Going to check CNBC and other sites to get some trading perspective around ths. GLTA.
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What about the people who would prefer to buy something Windows based because they have used it all of their lives? There must be a few million of them out there. Or a few hundred million.
not enough
Note enough info ... why does MS announce products without pricing or specific availability? I mean, they've had surface since 2007 and have seen what tablets look like for 10 years. Even the tech writers could only touch one of the two tablets they showed and then they only saw limited functionality.
This is too easy to ignore since it is not too far from vaporware.
Note enough info ... why does MS announce products without pricing or specific availability? I mean, they've had surface since 2007 and have seen what tablets look like for 10 years. Even the tech writers could only touch one of the two tablets they showed and then they only saw limited functionality.
This is too easy to ignore since it is not too far from vaporware.
I think its great, I hope it sells well. I like that Microsoft is doing something out of the "normal"
I would like to see the hard specs and prices on it though. When apple announces something usually all of this info is up front.
I would like to see the hard specs and prices on it though. When apple announces something usually all of this info is up front.
I think they will launch more ads down the road that are more product focused.
This launch ad just has to make an impression, that's all.
Either way, I'm excited to see these companies all go full steam ahead, especially Apple.
This launch ad just has to make an impression, that's all.
Either way, I'm excited to see these companies all go full steam ahead, especially Apple.
We have any accurate figures on OEM pricing for Windows-RT version regular Windows?
I think you have no clue what you're spouting about is what I really think...but I won't go there. Let's just say that iCloud is a multifaceted offering and your words are emanating from an undesirable location if you think you know everything about it...
As far as complaining about gas prices rising or electric/cable rates... Why no... no I don't complain. Why? Main reasons... I drive diesels so I get screwed in taxes anyway
Also, I live in Texas and anything that brings more money into the energy industry ultimately helps my business anyway...so no biggie. Finally, in the end the only thing I control in how those prices affect my life is to adjust the amount of money I earn. So I just go make more. What do you do? Cry about it, and hope them baddie waddie peeples in that big ol' bad world treat you nicer?