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Microsoft Announces New 'Surface' Tablet, New Hardware and Software Based on Windows 8

KevinN206 said:
And yet there are a tons of external keyboards for the iPad. Microsoft isn't telling you to use a keyboard. They are offering an optional keyboard in addition to the virtual keyboard. ALMOST exactly as Apple, except Apple relies on third-party for the keyboards.

If you don't want external keyboard, the simple solution, DON'T use it.
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Please confirm it has a virtual keyboard before spewing your propaganda. Thanks
 
faroZ06 said:
Look, the MS tablet has the same design as the iPad and a cover with magnets exactly like the Smart Cover except for the keyboard.
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no you look...

1) you think that Apple invented the black bezel?

2) do you think that apple invented the magnetic on/off functionality? news flash, Blackberry devices have had that feature for over 10 years (gasp!!!) Apple calls it "smart", when actually it's mostly dumb people who are fascinated by it. how ironic

faroZ06 said:
I know that Apple didn't put the keyboard on their Smart Cover. I'm just complaining that they didn't. That's one of the main reasons I will not buy an iPad. The lack of a good keyboard makes it useless for me.
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i have an iPad 2 and it's useful for certain things. throwing a keyboard onto it doesn't fully make it a laptop replacement. throwing a keyboard with a trackpad does. most apple fanatics are in denial that a keyboard+trackpad accessory for their iPad would make it one heck of amazing device. i honestly don't see Apple doing that though from a business standpoint because it could severely (and i mean SEVERELY) cut into Macbook Pro 13" base model and refurb model sales.
 
We can talk all we want about how the keyboard is welcome (it is) how nice it looks (it is pretty sleek) , its power (hardware seems excellent).

Its quality will be judged by three things

1. Price
2. ease of use
3. Battery


If these three things get passing grades, then it will be up to Microsoft to convince developers to develop for it. If they get developers to do it, it has a chance. If not, then its just another piece of pretty tech.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
Unlike most here, I care more about myself than how much profit a company that I buy products from makes. If someone turns out a good product, I don't care if they make $10 on it. I want a good product. Only on a Apple forum does a consumer consider a companies profit to be most important.
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Unlike some others here, I'm an investor in many companies and believe in capitalism. Publicly traded companies like MS, Apple, Google, et al. don't exist to stroke your ego or give you the warm fuzzy. They exist to...GASP...make money. So...in the long run if you make a great product and make no money on it...you die. It's that simple. If Apple makes a bad product and stops making money on it...they die. See how that works? Trouble is...that if they both make a good product but one makes 5 to 10X as much profit on it...guess which one dies then? A company's profit has a direct correlation to their products and their product's marketability. If it's such a bad product...why do people buy it? Hint...it ain't so bad...
 
AppleScruff1 said:
🙄 No wonder why people think the things they do about Apple users. It's statements like this.
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You know what I say is true. Unless you like tech support for PC users, OS X is a godsend.

Why buy a piece of crap PC that has zero resale value that pollutes the environment when you have to dump it and why repay the same amount of money in 2 years again?

Friends don't let friends use microsoft windows.
 
jgg204 said:
i have an iPad 2 and it's useful for certain things. throwing a keyboard onto it doesn't fully make it a laptop replacement. throwing a keyboard with a trackpad does. most apple fanatics are in denial that a keyboard+trackpad accessory for their iPad would make it one heck of amazing device. i honestly don't see Apple doing that though from a business standpoint because it could severely (and i mean SEVERELY) cut into Macbook Pro 13" base model and refurb model sales.
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For what do you want a trackpad? The iOS doesn't feature mouse support and is certainly not designed to use one with it!
 
Is there video from the conference today? The demo model froze and they had to get a new one to continue the presentation LOL. Typical Windows....
 
Wow, there is a lot of hate in this topic. I have a new iPad and I love it, but I'm glad to see somebody else come out with a tablet that looks like it could compete with Apple. We know Android wasn't putting any pressure on Apple. When there's competition everybody wins! I actually hope this is really successful, because that means Apple will make even better products! I'm glad Apple stepped it up in the last decade because it has caused everybody to have to make better products! Blind fanboyism is annoying and short sighted!
 
AppleScruff1 said:
I didn't think a high school student would be familiar with Windows 98. How much experience did you have with Vista? So people who buy Macs but know nothing about them are intelligent? 😕
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I'm very familiar with Windows 98SE and I'm a highschool student. It was the OS that made me fall in love with computers.
 
Avicdar said:
Battery life? Will be interesting.

I'm a little surprised in a good way. Didn't think Microsoft had this in them. They spent way too long in their presentation talking about the keyboard though. They still don't understand ecosystem, content, apps.

We'll see.
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I think Microsoft has learned a lot with the XBox platform which is fairly mature now. The foundation of the ecosystem is already there.

That kickstand... I just see that thing breaking off. The Surface Pro is more of a competitor to the Macbook Air than the iPad though-- it's got the guts of an ultrabook.

Now if only they could build in a Kinect sensor.
 
mcsenerd said:
Unlike some others here, I'm an investor in many companies and believe in capitalism. Publicly traded companies like MS, Apple, Google, et al. don't exist to stroke your ego or give you the warm fuzzy. They exist to...GASP...make money. So...in the long run if you make a great product and make no money on it...you die. It's that simple. If Apple makes a bad product and stops making money on it...they die. See how that works? Trouble is...that if they both make a good product but one makes 5 to 10X as much profit on it...guess which one dies then? A company's profit has a direct correlation to their products and their product's marketability. If it's such a bad product...why do people buy it? Hint...it ain't so bad...
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Who said that the Apple products were bad? I'm sure you never complain when gas prices rise or your electric or cable rates rise either. I mean being an investor and all. It's all about the company.

Anti-Lucifer said:
You know what I say is true. Unless you like tech support for PC users, OS X is a godsend.

Why buy a piece of crap PC that has zero resale value that pollutes the environment when you have to dump it and why repay the same amount of money in 2 years again?

Friends don't let friends use microsoft windows.
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I'm sure you know that Apple's iCloud service runs on Microsoft Azure. Right?
 
boomboom2 said:
Wow, there is a lot of hate in this topic. I have a new iPad and I love it, but I'm glad to see somebody else come out with a tablet that looks like it could compete with Apple. We know Android wasn't putting any pressure on Apple. When there's competition everybody wins! I actually hope this is really successful, because that means Apple will make even better products! I'm glad Apple stepped it up in the last decade because it has caused everybody to have to make better products! Blind fanboyism is annoying and short sighted!
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you can't be more wrong about competition making the leader do better!

look at RIM. Competition actually killed them.
 
Meriana said:
For what do you want a trackpad? The iOS doesn't feature mouse support and is certainly not designed to use one with it!
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And frankly Windows 8 isn't designed with trackpad support in mind either. Yeah, it has a cursor but has no gesture support beyond scrolling. With things like drag the window from the absolute top to the bottom with a mouse to quit a Metro app you really have to wonder what Microsoft is thinking by including a trackpad.
 
Two versions with two different experiences is a recipe for fail. One has a more desktop like processor with a desktop like GUI/Win8, the other doesn't. I don't like the fragmentation (already!). Just wait until Win8 gets some tweaks and/or they release a hardware refresh later -- it'll get worse.

The ARM version should perform nicely both benchmark and battery wise. The x86 version... can someone say fans and battery extenders?

I like the keyboard thought. IMO it's the best part of the tablet -- there if you want it, not there if you don't. My only concern would be durability.
 
So Random said:
Confused laptop or confused tablet?
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That's their point. It's created a new category. The fun of a tablet and the seriousness of a computer, all in one.

I'm getting one the day they are available and selling my iPad. No fanboy, just want more from my iPad. This fits the bill quite nicely. Finally something that has the power of my laptop in an incredibly mobile package. Bravo Microsoft!

If nothing else, the trackpad is a killer feature. I use the Oragami stand and the Apple BT keyboard. I HATE having to use my finger to navigate. Having it all right there is incredible.
 
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