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Dude, it's junk because it's from Microsoft. That's RIGHT. It has nothing to do with pull down notification features, 3D maps, etc.

Microsoft does not deliver. How is this hard to fathom?
Pretty difficult, as you can imagine. I actually like the iPad very much because my girlfriend has one. IMO, it's miles and miles better than any Android tablet, but I am not blind to see there are alternatives that fits me, and others, better.

You mean the Xbox that sold 10x more than the Apple TV? Did MS stutter with the Xbox? Yes. Did they make it finally work? Yes.
 
Getting real work done is done from a laptop or desktop. That's how it is now. This pc tablet is not going to change that. Sure you can pretend to attach a keyboard and call it a laptop replacement. It's still not gonna work.

Aside from the bluetooth keyboard, using dictation is also very good. It has come a long long way since then when you can speak the words and have it work so great. You don't have to TRAIN YOUR VOICE like you did in windows to get this to work at all. Love it. No need to type anything.

Re:Voice training

That's because they use different methods of voice recognition. the iPad's dictation uses a huge server farm to recognize words, and sends text back via the internet.

Voice recognition in Office was designed with privacy in mind, so there's no chance of your confidential memo leaking out of the server farm. Also, I don't think you've really had to train the voice recognition since Office 2003 or so.
 
Microsoft does not deliver. How is this hard to fathom?

Because they're announcing a product that isn't on the market yet? What else are they supposed to do? Release it, then give a half assed "oh, and there's this thing we made that came out a couple of weeks ago" keynote? Just so some random guy on an internet forum can't scream "VAPORWARREEE" like Chicken Little and the falling sky?

I give Apple props for announcing a product then releasing it soon afterwards. I wish more companies followed their example. But comeon. Overall, your argument is LAME!

What the f is derp?

I'm not calling you a derp so much as saying derp after someone says something that constitutes the use of a derp. Hence the derp.
 
Dude, it's junk because it's from Microsoft. That's RIGHT. It has nothing to do with pull down notification features, 3D maps, etc.

Microsoft does not deliver. How is this hard to fathom?

People call me a fanboy for saying this, but Microsoft stuff is pretty much always trash. The stereotype has been 100% true so far: I have never been satisfied with an MS product. I stopped wasting my time with MS a while ago and went almost MS-free when I got my MacBook so I don't have to use Windows 7 at school.
 
You have got to be kidding... I wish them, windows phone and the whole platform the best. They are laying off across all all divisions right now. A lot of people are about to be out of work, and many more will be if there isn't traction.

Of course there's fear. The one thing that Apple fans fear is Microsoft.
 
What good are those apps if they don't appeal to me? Who said I was buying it without testing? Buy the hand-on reviews from the tech journalists are at least impressed with the build quality. I am one of the pickiest buyer. I always read reviews. I almost always try it before buying it.

Over 1 million apps, nothing appeals to you? Sure, I'll take your word for that. then what do you expect to run on this RT tablet without any x86 compatibility?

You are really hard to please - therefore you fall in that 1% category who will buy this thing. I am awaiting a firesale for this. I don't think Microsoft will let it die because they have too much money to throw around even when they know they lost the war. Perhaps quietly, it will just fade off into the headphone isle at Fry's. Just exactly the same place they put the Zune HD demo units @fry's
 
WOW:eek: Great interests.

Look, Apple. Everyone including Apple fanboys want Freedom of using their gadget at their own purpose.

Sadly mind that MS and Apple history repeats again.

Anyway, my anxious bets on x86 Win8 Pro. Because I can use many existing desktop apps.
 
Windows Phone looks like a flop. Nokia was struggling with Symbian. It dropped from $40/share to $10/share from 2007 to 2011. Under Windows Phone, it is dying, and is now at $2.50/share.

Whether Windows 8 is the next XP or the next Vista remains to be seen. I give Microsoft credit, though. They are at least trying to be different. We need more than Apple. Windows 8 has the best shot at gaining traction, but I wouldn't write off Apple just yet.

I'm not writing Apple off yet, at all. I'm simply pointing out to anti-Lucifer that s/he shouldn't write off Windows as a has-been. True WP7 isn't a 96% behemoth like Windows 7 is, it's not quite dead yet either.
 
Given that the Ivy Bridge processors of the surface will consume 10-15 times as much power as the ARM processors that will power most other tablets (and, as a result, generate a similar proportional amount of heat), I fail to see how Ivy Bridge designs would be even feasible in a tablet form factor (the coming ARMs have a TDP of 0.75W at maximum load for the entire SOC).
 
Pretty difficult, as you can imagine. I actually like the iPad very much because my girlfriend has one. IMO, it's miles and miles better than any Android tablet, but I am not blind to see there are alternatives that fits me, and others, better.

You mean the Xbox that sold 10x more than the Apple TV? Did MS stutter with the Xbox? Yes. Did they make it finally work? Yes.

come on now, you know the XBOX sold 10x more because it's a gaming console. The media options are an afterthought. You cannot even compare the media UI and features to an ATV.

Xbox360 is one saviour of Microsoft. I cannot stand their windows platform.
 
Pretty difficult, as you can imagine. I actually like the iPad very much because my girlfriend has one. IMO, it's miles and miles better than any Android tablet, but I am not blind to see there are alternatives that fits me, and others, better.

You mean the Xbox that sold 10x more than the Apple TV? Did MS stutter with the Xbox? Yes. Did they make it finally work? Yes.

The XBOX (360) is not really an Apple TV competitor besides the fact that it plays media. Everything does these days.

The XBOX (and XBOX 360) has pretty good games and a good controller, but its hardware sucks. RRoDs are very common. Also, the UI on the 360 can be very annoying sometimes. Why do I have to sign in to play multiplayer on COD? My cousin and I spent 10 minutes just trying to start a game (and COD turned out to suck anyway). I mean, for other consoles, you just plug the controller in and go!

The Gamecube kills the XBOX (and 360). Best games ever!
 
come on now, you know the XBOX sold 10x more because it's a gaming console. The media options are an afterthought. You cannot even compare the media UI and features to an ATV.

Xbox360 is one saviour of Microsoft. I cannot stand their windows platform.

If it weren't for the fact that the Gamecube is bad with many 3rd-party games, I'd keep away from the XBOX (and 360). The PS2 would be better if its controller wasn't cheap @#$% with no triggers and if it had faster hardware. The PS3 also has bad controllers and slower hardware I think.
 
A hit into the pavement that is...

I read that the presentation was not over without a few classic system crashes, reminding us that special "Microsoft touch".

Link?

I wouldn't say Microsoft "brought it" - no details - memory, battery life, etc.

Why pump up the chiclet keyboard if the onscreen keyboard was any good?

My big concern is the chiclet keyboard rubbing up against the screen when closed.

Like the keys on the MBP that leave marks on the lcd?
 
People call me a fanboy for saying this, but Microsoft stuff is pretty much always trash. The stereotype has been 100% true so far: I have never been satisfied with an MS product. I stopped wasting my time with MS a while ago and went almost MS-free when I got my MacBook so I don't have to use Windows 7 at school.

It has nothing to do with being a fanboy or fangirl. It's simply using something that doesn't let you down. Like I said in previous post, there is a stigma associated with Microsoft brand. It didn't happen overnight, Microsoft sucks, it was years of time wasting, resource wasting, and worse of all, a very negative return on investment sort of productivity when using microsoft windows.

I don't care if you call me names, I put my money where in apple products because apple delivers the satisfaction microsoft only wished they could.
 
Of course there's fear. The one thing that Apple fans fear is Microsoft.

Well, Google too. It depends on whether they are "fanboy" fans or rational fans. I think fanboys just fear whatever competes with Apple then forget about it when the next article comes out.
 
Definitely fear Microsoft's BSODs, crashes, freezes, failed boots, data corruption, drive fragmentation, viruses and Trojans , zillions of DLLs, registry corruption.
All of the above that could drive a man totally insane.

Hey guys! I just woke up from being cryogenically frozen back in 1996! Is grunge still the crazy music all the cool kids listen to?
 
Why would you say that? If anything, Android fans should fear Microsoft.

Actually, android users were former microsoft users. They were all windows mobile users then hopped over into RIM's bed, then bent over for google. They are now taking their panties off yet again for Microsoft.
 
It has nothing to do with being a fanboy or fangirl. It's simply using something that doesn't let you down. Like I said in previous post, there is a stigma associated with Microsoft brand. It didn't happen overnight, Microsoft sucks, it was years of time wasting, resource wasting, and worse of all, a very negative return on investment sort of productivity when using microsoft windows.

I don't care if you call me names, I put my money where in apple products because apple delivers the satisfaction microsoft only wished they could.

Go on some sites (including YouTube), and you will be called all sorts of names for owning a Mac. Hey, it's better to be called "gay" by hilariously ignorant people whom I don't know than it is for me to use Windows!
 
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