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didnt the gateway stores come before apple's did?
And wasn't that a resounding success?

and I dont see it as that. It will be a place to get everything you need all in one spot.
Best Buy and Circuit City come to mind. Although, it will certainly provide yet another outlet to get everything one needs - it seems that Apple's strategy provides consumers with things they actually want.
 
Wow, what a disingenuous argument.

Seriously - what's your beef? Were you fired from Apple? I'd like to know the motivation for your endless anti-Apple rage.

why are you so pro apple that you see them do no wrong?

apple isnt that great if you open your eyes. (even if its to the extend of this forum and the problems users have)
 
Its not. Thats the point. Apple doesn't support going backwards on software. Never has never will.
I know what you mean. You just can't say that they're Snow Leopard only today.

Once the new Snow Leopard only Macs roll around it's going to break any chance of maintaining support for one version of the OS.

It's touched on here most recently. I know I've brought it up a few times over the years.
 
Lets have a look at the stuff that counts, shall we?
iPod Touch / Zune HD
GPS sort of (wifi) / no (apparently)
Radio no / yes
Audible Books yes / no
subscriptions no/ yes
Email yes / no
instant messaging yes / no
Calendar yes / no
maps yes / no
facebook/twitter yes / no
Apps 75000 / 9 or so
games 21000 / 7 or so
Screen 3.5 LCD / 3.3 OLED

lets compare windows mobile devices shall we? (there are 10s of thousands of them)

GPS sort of (wifi) / Yes, Assisted, bluetooth, YOU NAME IT (even usb)
Radio no / yes (TONS of devices including Touch HD and Touch Pro)
Audible Books yes / YES (choose from 10+ programs)
subscriptions no/ yes
Email yes / Yes (it was built for MS Push email)
instant messaging yes / Yes (every protocol and messenger possible)
Calendar yes / (yes, even syncs with MS Exchange)
maps yes / (every type possible, google, google earth, tomtom, garmin,iguidance, igo, etcetc)
facebook/twitter yes / Yes (either deticated app or browser)
Apps 75000 / millions publicly available and privately
games 21000 / i would say Thousands
Screen 3.5 LCD / any size from 1" to 4.5" all resolutions, VGA, SVGA, WVGA, WSVGA (FFS even the HTC Universal from 2004 had a VGA screen, the ipod only has a POS 480x320 which isnt even a 4:3 or 16:9 resolution)

apple products arent that superior sorry.

the Zune HD has only been out for a very limited time, the iphone when it came out 2-3 years ago, didnt have 3G, 3G phones with video calling at the time had been out for 4 years prior to the release of the iphone.
 
Right now there aren't any Snow Leopard only machines. Image Leopard onto them if you're within the bounds of your license situation.

or do like a friend of mine did. he was in the market for a new laptop but he works in audio and he's not sure all the drivers are up to date for SL.

so when he went in yesterday to buy the computer he asked them if they had any machines left that were in house before the release so they got the disk and actually have leopard on the machine. that way he's got leopard for now, snow leopard for when he is pretty sure everything has been updated but the original leopard restore disk if he is wrong.

i thought that was rather clever. and yes as it turned out they did have a couple boxes left just that way. so he was glad he asked.
 
He does have a point. Apple is in it for the money (as with any company) and most ipod users are spoiled, rude and immature 14 year old brats. I dont know how many times I've seen the freshmen/sophmore kids getting ther ipods taken away back when I was a senior few years ago. I was placed in a freshmen class my senior year and all those kids did was ignore the teacher and listen to their ipods and talk about myspace and that hanna montana and jonny brothers crap.

Business is business...

Though even the Microsoft fans tell me that a lot of things Microsoft steals from Apple. They know the whole history on the Xerox parc thing and what not. But I see it more as Microsoft BUYING Apples workers. I don't have anything against Microsoft or Apple at all. Its just business. Thats what my dad says... anyway.
 
your post title says Making PCs, but your actual post says selling (meaning HP, Dell, Sony etc)

and if it is so what? Unless microsoft copies apple in every detial, theres no legal problem here.

I feel misquoted. I should have mentioned ZUNE, and Microsoft Keyboard and Microsoft Mouse by name. I thought the XBox reference would have been enough. I'm writing this comment on a MBP, by the way.

Selling doesn't mean another vendor in this case. It just means you make something and you try to get someone to buy it.

Nevertheless, if Microsoft decided to make netbooks, laptops, etc, with the Microsoft name I don't think there is anything that could stop them.
 
lets compare windows mobile devices shall we? (there are 10s of thousands of them)

GPS sort of (wifi) / Yes, Assisted, bluetooth, YOU NAME IT (even usb)
Radio no / yes (TONS of devices including Touch HD and Touch Pro)
Audible Books yes / YES (choose from 10+ programs)
subscriptions no/ yes
Email yes / Yes (it was built for MS Push email)
instant messaging yes / Yes (every protocol and messenger possible)
Calendar yes / (yes, even syncs with MS Exchange)
maps yes / (every type possible, google, google earth, tomtom, garmin,iguidance, igo, etcetc)
facebook/twitter yes / Yes (either deticated app or browser)
Apps 75000 / millions publicly available and privately
games 21000 / i would say Thousands
Screen 3.5 LCD / any size from 1" to 4.5" all resolutions, VGA, SVGA, WVGA, WSVGA (FFS even the HTC Universal from 2004 had a VGA screen, the ipod only has a POS 480x320 which isnt even a 4:3 or 16:9 resolution)

apple products arent that superior sorry.

the Zune HD has only been out for a very limited time, the iphone when it came out 2-3 years ago, didnt have 3G, 3G phones with video calling at the time had been out for 4 years prior to the release of the iphone.

Yeah, Windows Mobile is so awesome, Steve Ballmer says so.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/351895/ballmer-blasts-windows-mobile

Oh wait, no he doesn't. Windows 7 is nice. XBox 360 is a great gaming system. The Zune HD looks promising. But Windows Mobile? Junk.
 
The irony is that you can hack and customize the hell out of WM and make it look and do exactly what you want, just like you can with OSX. And very much unlike the iPhone. :)
 
The irony is that you can hack and customize the hell out of WM and make it look and do exactly what you want, just like you can with OSX. And very much unlike the iPhone. :)

The drawback is the browser still sucks, there's no good app store, the battery life is horrible, and nearly every phone I've used with it (Q, Q9M, Q9C, Saga, Touch Pro, Blackjack II) have horrible phone quality.

Thanks, but I'd take an iPhone, Blackberry, or Android over WinMo any day of the week.
 
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