If there is one thing that sets me off about a lot of Apple Fan-boys, is people that say that Apple will blow the Zune out of the water with the newer iPod models. It honestly comes down to what you want. I sure don't need a cammera in my PMP. I got a Flip and a Nice Sony Cyber-shot. I want a rich PMP experience, and if you haven't seen the Zune HD's Interface, you should. It is to die for. The things it does to make the Media more rich is great. Instant Group info, quick Marketplace integration, Different Now Playing screen Backdrops using different Band photo's, and even the Artists Playing screan is awesome. I love it on my PC, and it looks just as great on the device. Imagine it on a Speaker dock or on your TV? Very nice feature.
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Some of you are excited to bash over-the-air radio and glorify streaming services like pandora.
On ipod touch / zune HD you'd have to have WiFi for pandora or other streaming media. FM doesn't require an internet connection.
On top of that, the ipod Touch 2G and iPhone 3GS have an FM-Receiver built into its BCM4325 wifi/bluetooth chip. Even better, the iPod Touch 3G will have FM transmit and receive functions. (Verified in firmware files)
The chip is sitting waiting for apple to turn on FM.
On ipod touch / zune HD you'd have to have WiFi for pandora or other streaming media. FM doesn't require an internet connection.
On top of that, the ipod Touch 2G and iPhone 3GS have an FM-Receiver built into its BCM4325 wifi/bluetooth chip. Even better, the iPod Touch 3G will have FM transmit and receive functions. (Verified in firmware files)
The chip is sitting waiting for apple to turn on FM.
I hope this thing Flops...
Apple has one thing to its advantage...the iPod Touch is called an iPod. When people look for an MP3 player, they look to the name they know and trust, iPod. Not too many people (comparetively) know and trust the Zune name.
Apple has one thing to its advantage...the iPod Touch is called an iPod. When people look for an MP3 player, they look to the name they know and trust, iPod. Not too many people (comparetively) know and trust the Zune name.
From 2007.
http://www.applematters.com/article/why-the-zune-will-outdo-the-ipod-111/
We've seen it all before . . .
Anyway, if you're not about full device convergence these days, you're not playing the game right. The iPod is seeing its last days. It passes nicely as a gaming device, for now. But it's all about the iPhone and its paradigm. Which means The Zune in its current form won't do much better than the Zune of yesteryear. The iPod isn't the real problem for the Zune HD. It's the iPhone.
MS needs a complete R&D revamp and a complete change of corporate management.
WTF ARE YOU (AND OTHERS) TALKING ABOUT?
The Zune is NOT a smartphone. Apple's relatively small share of the phone business does not apply here. Microsoft is going after Apple's portable media player business AKA the iPod/iTunes. Apple does currently dominate this space but the one-two punch of Zune HD and the music subscription business has the potential to change the landscape.
I don't trust iPod as a PMP (Not MP3, dude. Get out of the year 2003). I haven't had the best experience until I picked up a Zune to be honest.
If most consumers got down, and used the Zune for a while, I'm sure a lot would go for it over an iPod.
If you've worked with VCs and their lawyers, you'd know that a lot of work under NDA went into that Ifund announcement at an Apple event.
This did not happen without Apple's support. That is a fact.
...or
Money from external investors ----> the company making the device isn't sure it will fly, and doesn't want to risk its own money
Money from the platform's owner ----> the company is confident of the success of the new device, and is willing to invest
Money from the platform's owner ----> the company is confident of the success of the new device, and is willing to invest
This game can go both ways.
I know they update once a year but it's standard that the iPhone gets everything before the iPod touch (except for the fastest processor iPod touch 2G VS iPhone 3G) so why doesn't the iPhone 3GS have OLED?
Um, 13.3 percent of the smartphone market share is a monopoly?
There is a third category next to cellphone and smartphone, the appstore phone.
Hence this. They're phasing out they're flash models, and making the HD the flagship model. This will be a great player compared to a lot in the market, hands down. I don't care what anyone says. And because I haven't seen many buy an actual iPod lately (but like 20 iPod Touch's), I do think that the iPod won't be around for all that much longer either. The way Apple has been going with the iPhone OS and it's devices, i wouldn't doubt complete phasing of the iPod's at all.
Zune can take over the iPod. And it would be welcome by me. Social is something that's commonly overlooked on it. I share things all the time to my friend over our Zunes. But imagine your all iPod school bus, on the Social? It'd be a lot more fun.
The only things MS needs to do is get a Mac Client, gain some exclusive feature, like Xbox Live integration, and expand out of just the Device line. For example, we see the iPhone, with an iPod. How bout an Xbox Portable with a Zune player, or hell, even a Windows Mobile with a Zune Player.
People need to stop knocking Microsoft's design.
And if you knew how the Zune interface worked, you'd know why "marketplace" and "more" are cut-off. Think magnification on the Mac OS X dock. But of course, the menu is longer than the screen allows. In the end it looks better than the simple scroll items of a standard iPod interface.
The more the merrier, I think. Why are people rooting for a monopoly? Apple already controls too much of the MP3 and smartphone market. Too many accessories/apps that we can convince ourselves that we "need." Wouldn't you rather have the choice? If you ever decided to switch to the Zune or a Windows Mobile handset, it would be nice having all the same or very similar apps when you do, wouldn't it?
Honestly, stop complaining.
Are you serious? You are honestly arguing here with people for rooting for a company who created a product of their own, with their own software and all they are doing is selling it to the world who wants to buy it, and you call this a monopoly? When you have customer who likes your product and decide to buy it over anything else, that's not a monopoly, how is Apple controlling that? BUT, you are defending a company which actually DOES have a monopoly on their computer operating system? What has MS suddenly become the underdog? Gimme a break. MS has the monopoly, all they do is go to every corporation, small business 7-11 and any other mom and pop store and say, "Hey, install our OS on anything you want, we're forcing it down your throat, and BTW you can only use our web browser because our media player will be dominating websites that will require our browser to use it due to our wonderful Active X controls".
Because the touch hasn't been around long enough to establish any kind of standard. And even if you could make the case for one, the faster processor example proves it isn't always followed. Therefore, the iPod touch could get a OLED screen even though the iPhone 3GS doesn't have one.
Where does Microsoft get so much money?
they're paying for 2 big retail stores, the R&D, tons of recent marketing, buckets of cash for developers, they just got sued by i4i and have to pay 300 million
how is Microsoft not burning through their savings?
I know if they go bankrupt Obama will bail them out in a heartbeat but man they have a lot of cash to spend
they're paying for 2 big retail stores, the R&D, tons of recent marketing, buckets of cash for developers, they just got sued by i4i and have to pay 300 million
how is Microsoft not burning through their savings?
I know if they go bankrupt Obama will bail them out in a heartbeat but man they have a lot of cash to spend
That looks like my old Pocket PC. It's not a pretty thing... And why is More cut off?
And have they even considered selling it outside of America yet?
No, they will only sell it in the US according to an article on the belgian ZDnet site: http://www.zdnet.be/news/106391/zune-hd-niet-naar-europa/
I do not understand this. How does MS expect this thing to become a hit if they sell it only in the US? Haven't they done some research on how large the market is elsewhere? Just look at all the iPods here in Europe.
True, the Zune isn't a smartphone, but it is being compared in the marketplace to the ipod touch (which it should be compared) which coincidentally looks amazingly like the iphone, sans the phone feature, camera and such.]
The Zune is fighting for a dying mp3 market, and unless there is a Zune equivalent smartphone, there won't be much of a marketplace of apps, comparative to iphone.
Too little, too late for Zune, even with its much vaunted HD feature.
Uh...no. Apple's iPod wasn't the first MP3 player or anything, there were 100s of other brands. Apple became successful because other MP3 player's weren't as easy to use, setup, and didn't last as long. Zunes tried to imitate that but have failed. I still don't get why Zunes don't sync with Macs, or the fact that Microsoft's own Windows Media Player isn't the default application to sync Zunes...that's ass-backwards.
Apple does software/hardware integration and has been for decades, hence their great computers, iPods, and iPhones.
Let's face it, Microsoft is trying to catch up with Apple. iPods to Zunes, Apple Stores to Microsoft Stores.
People aren't having good user experience with Microsoft that's why Apple is thriving in today's business.
Money from external investors ----> the company making the device isn't sure it will fly, and doesn't want to risk its own money
Money from the platform's owner ----> the company is confident of the success of the new device, and is willing to invest
This game can go both ways.
I don't think so....this "willing to invest" thing is non-sense, we're talking about multi-billion-dollars companies, it's not a problem of confidence and "willing to invest" (what? a couple thousand dollars?) to bribe some developer to help the success of your long-rumored long-awaited device....
If you DO are confindent, you wait for thousands of developers to come like bees on honey or external investors to do that funding thing....like what happened to apple...
And let's not forget the "stealing" thing, beside the "bribing" thing.
If you are confident you don't go around knocking doors of iphone developers and explaining how to PORT applications.....you wait for native application to pop out spontaneusly for your great device with great OS and great SDK....
Doesn't porting applications developed on the iPhone SDK to Zune violate the terms of the Apple Developer agreement?
Microsoft is thinking of porting games like C+ written in code warrior for PC to the Mac - but in this case the developer owns 100% of the IP for the game. This is not true of the interface elements and methods employed using the iPhone SDK which includes much "mobile" functionality.
Microsoft is thinking of porting games like C+ written in code warrior for PC to the Mac - but in this case the developer owns 100% of the IP for the game. This is not true of the interface elements and methods employed using the iPhone SDK which includes much "mobile" functionality.
I always figured it was because Apple didn't want to take the risk
what was the last count 6 mobile devices (mobile meaning portable phone or mp3) have OLED and that's it?
Well you would be wrong. They are too expensive and that is all. Apple can not maintain their profit margin if they introduce something before it is mainstream technology. Their high profit margin always dictates their hardware. When flash memory comes down into the right price they update the ipod. OLED is one year from being in apple's price range. Next year this time the OLED will be in the ipod.