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Because we all know that when a company starts to slash prices, the product is selling like hotcakes, everyone wants one, and there is not enough product to go around. Yes, MS is in that very position with their tablet offerings and superior software. Reality Distortion Field projection much?

Yep, sales define how good a product is.

/s
 
Trust me when I say your copy is asking to be HACKED! Also trust me when I say this your companies IT staff will disappear to only a couple of senior people when they finally upgrade to modern equipment after this depression is over.

IMHO your company is still on the old IT equipment because it's to expensive to go forward and since Microsoft up the service subscriptions so high companies are jumping over to Linux servers & Bring your own computer systems.

So a warning to all you kids wanting to get into IT. It's a dying industry and year by year just pure Microsoft Service knowledge will not cut it. Learn and get certified in Linux servers and proficient & certified Linux servers and Mac computers.

I agree with you on this to a certain degree. Microsoft isn't going anywhere however especially infrastructure pieces like AD and Exchange. Tech folks do need to diversify their knowledge. Virtualization is an area one should be looking at as well.
 
but wait, if I wanted to be productive and run office I could buy a macbook air, run OSX, Windows, Office etc etc etc with double the battery life of a surface, a better keyboard by a mile, a better trackpad by a light year and really be productive. iPads aren't designed for productivity period. Surface are designed for productivity but do a really bad job compared to a laptop and the macbook air is still the best windows laptop

You wrote my thoughts!

My MBA is the most productive computing device I've ever owned.
 
Yugo CEO: Our vehicle does better than what the Porsche 911 can do while being cheaper as well. Porsche has no idea how people use their car to do work.

Porsche CEO: Our 911 gives the owner the best driving experience. Our competitors have no clue what they are after.
 
Because we all know that when a company starts to slash prices, the product is selling like hotcakes, everyone wants one, and there is not enough product to go around. Yes, MS is in that very position with their tablet offerings and superior software. Reality Distortion Field projection much?

What about the Macbook Pro? Those prices were just 'slashed.' :roll eyes:

I'm not suggesting that the Surface is 'selling like hot cakes' but lowering prices on a product does not necessarily indicate anything - look at the 1st gen iPhone - prices were cut just a few months after release...
 
i guess Tim Cook said it best... they are making a PC out of a tablet and a tablet out of a PC. And I don't get why someone buys a tablet and then wants keyboard and a mouse with it. They should have just bought a ultra portable laptop...
 
What about the Macbook Pro? Those prices were just 'slashed.' :rolleyes:

The only difference between Apple offering a more competitive price-point and the fire sale MS has been initiating with their Surface is... well that's the difference. I think Apple has too many models, but I think they want to hit every price point they can. MS is just trying to avoid an all-out disaster with the Surface.

And for them to make fun of the iPad. Didn't Tim say they sold like 170M units?

Apple doesn't have to lower product prices to raise customer expectations. MS does that. We all know about the Apple Tax, and maybe now with the FREE OS, and other software, and with some MADE IN USA products, maybe they finally realize they have enough in the bank, and want to spread the cheer around by lowering prices or some freebies. Either way, I'll take 'em.
 
It's not like Microsoft ever cut their prices before. So they totally have the right to insult Apple for something they did themselves. :rolleyes:
 
Which is why Windows 8 has been such a major success...

Well, W8 has more market share than all OSX versions together, and it is increasing rapidly (something OSX is NOT doing). If W8 is a failure, what is OSX? :)

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

Seriously speaking, I don't think the quality of a product is measured by its commercial succes. So many bad products sold milions and so many good products were forgotten in history.

Marc
 
Why not just ignore Apple and make something better? This is weird coming from the software giant that charges $200 for their software package. This package that costs $70ish from Apple shouldn't be in their league.

Right?

Agree, MS should just make a better offer, or make more promotion for their current offer it they think it is already better. This "our competence is bad" is not very profesional. It's like saying "Our competitors are confused, but we have a clear direction". (Mr. Cook dixit) UPS! :)

BTW, is that "clear direction" a highway to hell? Just kidding! :p. But really, that sentence is quite empty. Having a direction I guess is better than no direction, but it doesn't mean is the right or the best direction.

Marc
 
Well, W8 has more market share than all OSX versions together, and it is increasing rapidly (something OSX is NOT doing). If W8 is a failure, what is OSX? :)

This accounts for all the angry Windows users screaming at us happy OS X users...

I was just listening to Windows Weekly podcast (TWiT Network) and that guy (not Leo) was going on and on about how hard it was actually upgrading to 8.1. And this is the guy who likes Windows. I contrast that to my Mavericks upgrade. Sweet and Painless. While it was installing, I was able to listen to the Windows guy talk about his upgrade nightmare.

The guys in Redmond are living off their mid 80s to mid 90s success. But then again, they've never really been innovators as much as imitators.
 
Nope. They define how *successful* a product is. And MS has fallen short in many a product launch in recent memory.

Yeah, they have a reputation to fight.

Doesn't help when you have "reviews" that make them look even worse than they are.
 
Which you incorrectly interpreted as nobody. One out of hundred is not nobody, it is one out of a hundred. Not anecdotally, but based on years of observation.

You seem to not know what an anecdote is. Your "years of observation" still constitutes anecdotal evidence. But I'm wasting my breath, since you seem to enjoy sanctimoniously declaring what the world needs and doesn't need.
 
Microsoft should have named their September releases the "Polished Turd" and the "Polished Turd Pro."

Now that Microsoft has blessed iWork with its opinion, I'd expect it to become the premiere word processing software, spreadsheet software, and presentation software on the majority of most new computers sold in the next decade. Because most of those new computers will be tablets. And Apple sells the most tablets. And every time Microsoft expresses its opinion, great things happen for their competition.

Microsoft's descent into irrelevancy as a creative company is astonishing. If the Surface was such a hit, one would have expected MSFT to bump up a few dollars a share on the announcement. But, MSFT is still trading at the same price as they were four years ago when the iPad rolled out.

That should tell you something.
 
Man, there's desperate, and then there's Microsoft. There isn't a tech company out there fighting more desperately for relevance than MS these days. Only their bank account lets them continue to create *******, homage-to-mediocrity products like Windows 8 and the "Surface". And that bank account gets smaller each year.
 
On paper PC will always beat Mac because they like to list features, specs and price without considering what people really want or didn't realize they wanted. However, Microsoft's embarrassing Surface sales couldn't be further from their plan on paper.
 
This accounts for all the angry Windows users screaming at us happy OS X users...

I was just listening to Windows Weekly podcast (TWiT Network) and that guy (not Leo) was going on and on about how hard it was actually upgrading to 8.1. And this is the guy who likes Windows. I contrast that to my Mavericks upgrade. Sweet and Painless. While it was installing, I was able to listen to the Windows guy talk about his upgrade nightmare.

The guys in Redmond are living off their mid 80s to mid 90s success. But then again, they've never really been innovators as much as imitators.

Yeah, some people have problems with upgrades. That happens with all software. I had no problems with my Surface RT, for example, but others did.
 
I write

a lot. Essays, short stories, books, instruction manuals, and on and on. Over the years I've used a lot of different tools including Office 2010 and 2013, (at work) OpenOffice Writer, and most recently Pages. Pages is my favourite though Writer is a close second. For small projects and little notes I find I use TextEdit on the Mac and Notepad on Windows. Office? Nope, not even in the race. I literally HATE the ribbon. I want to see the programmers that wrote it and the management that approved it expelled from the computing industry forever. It's the single worst change made to any program by any company ever in the history of computers. Pre ribbon Office wasn't bad, post ribbon I find it unusable. I will not use Office. Period. At work they even installed Office2010 on my new computer. I hacked my system and installed OpenOffice. So now MS is saying they know how to help productive people work.

BullS***
 
if i would want a device to be really productive with keyboard and a mouse pointer input id buy a laptop and not a tablet ... thats what MS is not getting

bingo. Microsoft has failed to make MS Office super accessible due to corporate infighting. Steve Jobs was savage about MAKING iPhone and iPad work with ONLY fingers. it's that focus on doing ONE thing super well that Microsoft repeatedly is missing.
 
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