Oh for goodness sake, iWorks is irrelevant, free or not. You might as well say crayons and a ruler given out for free is going to displace AutoCad!
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Microsoft Bashes Apple's iWork Software, New iPads
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Oh for goodness sake, iWorks is irrelevant, free or not. You might as well say crayons and a ruler given out for free is going to displace AutoCad!
Hope your boss doesn't read this, you might be in for some trouble.
Also... calm down. The ribbon isn't "the worst change made to any program by any company ever in the history of computers". I don't even know if your post should be taken as seriously, you're obviously not taking it seriously with statements like that.
Not sure if you are joking, trolling, 12 years old or just delusional, hehe. Please don't be ofended but your comment is really extremist with no evidence to support its claims, specially first and third. Second, I can agree it happened, but the cause would be another debate.
Sales or lack of sales are not the final way to measure quality. If it were, it would mean Macs and OSX are a fail of biblical proportions (less than 10% of the market after 10 years), but it is clear they are not.
You make a good point...one is a full OS on a tablet and the other has an os made for a tablet. I would offer the point that perhaps the iPad would be a better fit because it's designed to be a tablet, rather than trying to be a computer squeezed into a tablet. It does what it's made to do, not what it wishes it could do. It could boil down to the concept of do you want to do a fair job at a lot of things, or would you rather do a superior job at a few things?
That is going to be the wave of the future. Basically, online collaboration and open documents
It is weird, hearing people say their professors are demanding files in Word .doc format, and kicking back OO or .pages documents. Who cares what the file is, I just want to see the finished project.
But now, with all the online collaboration tools, it makes no sense for a document to sit on somebody's computer, just waiting to be ?printed? ?emailed? ....
I'm not a fan of online docs or webmail, but I've been taking some Coursera online classes, and the future is collaboration. I'm not seeing this as an M$ strong point.
Not sure if you are joking, trolling, 12 years old or just delusional, hehe. Please don't be ofended but your comment is really extremist with no evidence to support its claims, specially first and third. Second, I can agree it happened, but the cause would be another debate.
Sales or lack of sales are not the final way to measure quality. If it were, it would mean Macs and OSX are a fail of biblical proportions (less than 10% of the market), but it is clear they are not.
You fail to see the most important point.
Bad sales never prove anything bad about Apple, just that people don't get it. If they did, they'd all buy Apple products.
Oddly enough - Apple added filters to Numbers (one of the two things I was really looking for) - if they add a pivot tables feature and increase the maximum number of cells to be comparable with MS Excel - Numbers would really be a humdinger of a competitor. It has added a lot of formulas in the newest update and optimized the user interface.
Overall I agree that iWork is not on feature parity with MS Office - but its getting better. And what Apple has done with bringing parity between the client software and the iCloud versions is to put it between the MS client heavy and Google's web only approach. Now if Apple starts adding features like Googles does to its productivity suite - bit by bit - Apple will start creeping in on MS Office territory. Google has a pivot table in its spreadsheet app - I am sure Apple can get that done in both versions of iWork Add that to its really outstanding data visualization and graphing capabilities and iWork starts looking more threatening.
Plus its cheaper and integrates across all of Apple's hardware.
I think MS's reactionary response is not based on how the see iWork today - but what it could become in the near future.
True...prices were cut, but not margins. They worked out subsidies, if my memory serves me right.
They still make in the neighborhood of $500-600 per device, like it was on day one. It's just not all coming from us
Well, W8 has more market share than all OSX versions together, and it is increasing rapidly (something OSX is NOT doing). If W8 is a failure, what is OSX?
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
Seriously speaking, I don't think the quality of a product is measured by its commercial succes. So many bad products sold milions and so many good products were forgotten in history.
Marc
Apple is only ONE computer maker and they are in the top 6 (at the bottom) computer makers along with Dell, HP, Asus, etc. Saying "Apple is a failure" is like saying Asus or Acer is a "failure" as a top 6 computer maker. The issue is not how "small" Apple is, but how staggeringly huge the installed base of Windows PCs is. But huge also means entrenched and stubbornly not changing.
We just did that with ~500 field users where I work. They went from having laptops where VPN logs showed most were rarely used (ever) to iPads + cellular that VPN logs are showing being used from early morning to late night. Users comment frequently on liking the weight, the instant-on, and the long battery life.
Every business is different, but the iPad was a surprise hit with ours. Granted, they're not creating or editing a ton of Office documents.
Tough question. Don't have an answer for it either. Want the best of both worlds.
It was eerily painless upgrading to mavericks. I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop but it never did...
MS has made one of the most unique tablets on the market (different from iPad). 16:9 instead of 4:3; live tiles instead of static icons; squared corners instead of rounded; full USB port; kickstand; innovative optional keyboards; MicroSD expansion, multiple apps on screen, multi user accounts...
You can like one product or another more according to your needs and circunstances, but please tell me in what things you think Surface is a copy of iPad. ¿Touch screen?, hehe
This is a "serious" website, with "serious comments" (a contradiction in terms, if there ever was one)?
He's entitled to his opinion. I think it shows a bit about how Apple "gets some things," and appeals strongly to some users, in a way that Microsoft doesn't seem to.
Having said that, I do think the Ribbon is a disaster, but entirely due to my own issues: I've used the old fashioned Word toolbars since 1992, and I just can't seem to ever be able to find what I want, when I want it.
It cracks me up when I break out my old OS 9 Pismo, and can do things faster sometimes using that, than on an OS X Mac with newer Word...
OOh...a little bit of jealous anger I sense? Someone needs a little spanking. Oops... Apple seems to be doing a good job of spanking them already.
Yeah but it also runs windows
I run Ableton on my macbook but as we've discussed before, there I things I can do with my ipad that I can't do with a macbook or a surface.
EVeryones aware of of the surface, it's just that nobody wants it.
I know I'm in the minority but I like W8. Most of the negative reception was because it's crappy without a touchscreen and a year ago, all the OEM's launched W8 on $400 boxes without touchscreens. That and the fact it's ill-suited for enterprise.
And there's a ton of stuff I can do on a SP that I can't do on an iPad, like run software whose quality justifies a pricepoint higher than that of a small pizza
Wellll.....
since I'm not sampling 10 simultaneous channels of audio in, an i5 works fine. And since I have a 128 GB SP, the math would still work out if for whatever reason I actually wanted to install 40 gb of patches and samples I'll never use
Thye have their own "reality distortion zone" going up there in Redmond. It's called wrong about everything.....always!!
Their ship has sailed and they are a non-factor.........period!!
Your "facts" need some more "evidences", or you should call them "opinions"
Otherwise I can say "it is an obvious fact that iPads are only used by old people, children and ignorant adults. End of the story".
"Let's be clear - helping folks kill time on a tablet is relatively easy. Give them books, music, videos and games, and they'll figure out the rest. Pretty much all tablets do that."
Relatively easy and pretty much all tablets do that. huh... Prior to Apple's iPad, Microsoft, can you show me during the ten years of your attempts of tablets with mass appeal which one could do books, music, videos and games? Hmm? Apple had to show you the way Microsoft... Again!
Relatively easy and pretty much all tablets do that. huh... Prior to Apple's iPad, Microsoft, can you show me during the ten years of your attempts of tablets with mass appeal which one could do books, music, videos and games? Hmm? Apple had to show you the way Microsoft... Again!
I don't believe that is true - I believe it was a flat out price cut which I would think would hit their margins (not sure how margins matter for this argument although I know the goal posts constantly move for the pro-Apple arguments).
There were no subsidies for the 1st generation iPhone if i remember correctly. If you remember, there were enough unhappy customers that they were essentially forced into giving $100 Apple store credits, which they would not have done if it was a matter of subsidies.