DMann
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Attention to detail, or lack there of, is one of several reasons why MS's products do so poorly.
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Microsoft Confirms Multi-Touch Zune HD to Compete Against iPod Touch
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Mackilroy
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It's easier to regurgitate an oft-stated opinion or bash what you haven't used - if you did that, you might have to actually have some respect for it. It's also fun to see the trolls come out and say 'Apple is God, everyone bow down," or, "Microsoft can't lose, they have x number of features and Apple doesn't."
I've only seen one person with a Zune. Everyone else I know has an iPod of some kind. My friend with the Zune? I've tried using it, and it's all right, but my touch is far more flexible and more straightforward. Hopefully the Zune HD is an improvement over the original, though if the interface is the same (except with multitouch slapped on it) I'm not hopeful.
Right... because we all know that the Metal/Black color scheme didn't exist until Apple did it.
External HD playback is pretty cool, I'd like to see ipod support that at some point. But sounds like it's only 720.
Are there any specs out about the screen resolution? Widescreen? Or are they just going to have 4:3 and lie about it like last time?
Are there any specs out about the screen resolution? Widescreen? Or are they just going to have 4:3 and lie about it like last time?
Eidorian
macrumors Penryn
480 x 272 for the onboard display sadly. OLED looks great on portable devices though. You really notice it outdoors.
bigpics
macrumors 6502
The "HD" model....
(I assume it outputs 720p to a TV, but getting another device hooked into the back of today's TV's everywhere you might want it to work and with a TV dock in tow is soooo convenient.....)
Especially for a device marketed right out the gate as HD!
(I assume it outputs 720p to a TV, but getting another device hooked into the back of today's TV's everywhere you might want it to work and with a TV dock in tow is soooo convenient.....)
DMann
macrumors 601
Manufacture it to look enough like an iTouch, slap on features, subsidize the price, and send it out to the Marketplac{ - that ought to grab some market share. Hopefully, the OLED screen will be visible in daylight, since OLED has no backlight to substantially illuminate a screen out doors. Looking forward to HD radio, and hope that the SSD is at least 80G, capable of carrying more than a few 720p videos.
Mattie Num Nums
macrumors 68030
What a bunch of close minded fanboys. I think its a step in the right direction competition wise. Competition is good because it makes Apple actually do something (Apple hasn't been very good about updating there products lately.)
Again I guess having an open mind is a bad thing around here.
Again I guess having an open mind is a bad thing around here.
Mattie Num Nums
macrumors 68030
Odd choice. Nice that they went widescreen (instead of just lying about it like last time) but doing it at a lower resolution than the touch? Seems like a pretty low resolution for an "HD" device.
Mattie Num Nums
macrumors 68030
Yeah totally. This in reality is just an attempt by MS to give the PC loyalists something.
DMann
macrumors 601
At least Apple paid Xerox to lease it, before developing it significantly.
bigpics
macrumors 6502
Life beyond iTunes and Front Row?
Haven't tried it, but a number of geek pundits praise Songbird, and for full-tilt home theatre use, Plex
Eidorian
macrumors Penryn
It's tough to do widescreen on a mobile device unless you want to go up to 800 x 480.
I'm betting the next major update for iPhone/iPod touch will be 640x960 (or 960x640 if you hold it horizontally). Four times the resolution = easy GPU scale-up of current applications with no blurriness.
Bubba Satori
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Interesting that such a terrible product can generate so many nervous posts. I wonder why that is ?
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...and in true M$ fasion, they follow in the footsteps of the innovators at Apple. And as the ignorant masses gather and talk of how new and amazing it is, myself and tens of millions of others chuckle softly to ourselves. For we have enjoyed this "new" and "innovative" experience for two years already... although admittedly without the poor user experience of a Windows device. And in mere weeks, when Apple bestows its newest updates to their already superior products, we shall laugh again as the immitators at M$ find themselves, once more, years behind.
...and in true M$ fasion, they follow in the footsteps of the innovators at Apple. And as the ignorant masses gather and talk of how new and amazing it is, myself and tens of millions of others chuckle softly to ourselves. For we have enjoyed this "new" and "innovative" experience for two years already... although admittedly without the poor user experience of a Windows device. And in mere weeks, when Apple bestows its newest updates to their already superior products, we shall laugh again as the immitators at M$ find themselves, once more, years behind.
Eidorian
macrumors Penryn
Which is nice but you run into ppi issues not to mention the cost of a high resolution display of that size.
Take "high resolution" with a pinch of salt.
TheSpaz
macrumors 604
That's a pretty brave post you made there. As if we aren't laughed at every time someone sends us an MMS or we need to copy and paste something? How about the fact that when the iPhone first came out, it wasn't a very good phone... it was more of an iPod that could make calls and browse the internet. So finally this summer, we're getting some basic features added... so we've been laughed at for 2 years now. Just remember that.
I imagine you mean ppi issues with the new higher resolution. As for the cost, well, in a few years/months such an LCD panel will probably cost the same as the old panel cost a few years/months ago.
Or, that could be the resolution of the rumored "Apple Tablet". Four times the resolution, compatible with iPod touch applications (zoomed 2x), etc. Nobody here really knows what Apple has in store for us.
neiltc13
macrumors 68040
I would rather have a true 16:9 display to view my content than have a few extra pixels which necessitate cropping of my media.
It sure makes those iPhone with an OLED screen rumors sound a little more realistic. You never know. And I see this product as more of an extension of the XBLM and the 360. Depending of course on how it works out with the current set-up. If there was anyway to get XBLA games on this device that would be amazing. Not to mention the 360 is a very well known platform and with NXE and this having this having its own front page on the Marketplace it will get a lot of attention just because people will be going through or around it on their box's all the time.
I think it all comes down to the content from the XBLM and how they will work together.
