Yep, if this were 200.00 to schools then I'd say look out. Schools are stupid for the most part. It's all about price with some idiot IT guy and Board making decisions. This announcement today changes very little for anyone making purchasing decisions. Windows was always an option. IT can already manage win 10 and restrict it.
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Microsoft Debuts $999 Surface Laptop, 'Streamlined' Windows 10 S, and More at Education Event
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Yep, if this were 200.00 to schools then I'd say look out. Schools are stupid for the most part. It's all about price with some idiot IT guy and Board making decisions. This announcement today changes very little for anyone making purchasing decisions. Windows was always an option. IT can already manage win 10 and restrict it.
Microsoft doesn't expect to sell a lot of these at $1000, it's their equivalent of a "concept car", showing OEMs the possibilities of what can be done. The article says it expects OEMs to make models costing "$189 to $300" which will compete with Chromebooks in the education market.
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$1000 and 4Go of Ram ?
I'll wait for this guy's opinion before deciding.
I'll wait for this guy's opinion before deciding.
Is it me or do those kids in k-12 keep looking older? Oh well..lol When I said target education, i meant schools who make these purchases, not students.
Microsoft office does not run great with 4GB RAM. Outlook grinds to a halt, and other apps quickly become slow and unresponsive.
If you have very basic needs, buy an iPad. You don't need a Windows PC. The people still buying laptops tend to need to use more advanced software and 4GB is nowhere near enough for them.
Right.....and that is why the iPad together with the keyboard does not even have a touchpad on the keybord, forcing the user to constantly go between the keyboard for typing, and the touch screen for navigating ?
You can do a little research on that - 'gorilla arm' can be minimized further the closer the screen is to your body. The more one bends the arm, the less the fatigue. Having a vertical touch screen still isn't ideal, but this is Apple's way of compromise.
Really, compared to the $2199 for the MacBook Pro 13" WITHOUT TOUCHBAR that matches this spec... yeah I would hardly call it overpriced...
I think it was a confused event. Microsoft was billing it as an education event which is why most tech sites assumed they would be launching a chromebook like machine. But listening to Panos Panay the device is clearly targeted to Mac users. The device doesn't really match what the event was supposed to be about.
This is alright, but it really isn't that great, although it is focused around education. I was kind of expecting more from Microsoft in this space.
As for whatever they've done to Minecraft, they've just implemented Scratch into Minecraft. I don't like it but it's Education Edition only, so that's fine. The standard version already has a great coding oppertunity in the form of Command Blocks - very powerful when used correctly.
As for whatever they've done to Minecraft, they've just implemented Scratch into Minecraft. I don't like it but it's Education Edition only, so that's fine. The standard version already has a great coding oppertunity in the form of Command Blocks - very powerful when used correctly.
I don't get it. Why would someone get this over a Surface Pro 4? It's more expensive when it has the same RAM, CPU, and SSD, except it has a lower resolution display and camera (no rear camera), missing many of the sensors, and weighs nearly twice as much.
I can't watch the video right now. Would someone explain the use case that makes the Surface Laptop a better fit than the Pro 4?
I can't watch the video right now. Would someone explain the use case that makes the Surface Laptop a better fit than the Pro 4?
If I'm paying $1000 for a computer it better last at least 5 years. Come back and tell me how well that 4GB ram is running after 3 or 4 years. Also, 128GB storage and limiting apps to their App Store do not beat the new MacBook Pro so no this doesn't win in all aspects. As always both have advantages and disadvantages and it's up the the consumer to decide what is best for their needs.
Looks like a lot of the black MacBooks from back in the what... early 2k's?
edit: there are some white ones in there too.
Windows "S" for surveillance!
MS is data mining and adding ads to the os, so many reasons not to buy hardware from them along with high prices for product too.
MS is data mining and adding ads to the os, so many reasons not to buy hardware from them along with high prices for product too.
you have no idea what components are inside that $2199 Windows laptop yet. It could be a crap SSD, slow RAM, slow i5 processor. Microsoft were vague on pricing and we see why now, and they are vague on the specs which could also point to more bad news. We do know the MacBook Pro uses high-end components.
There is a lot to like here, but the upgrade pricing from stock set up is too steep. Come on, Appl... I mean, Microsoft.
Yeap. The US price for the top end model WITH that touchscreen is the exact same as the MacBook Pro with the same spec WITHOUT the Touch Bar.... so when it hits the UK even with the Brexit tax it will beat Apple on pricing, match them on build quality. A very nice interesting device.
Well the burgundy color is nice...
I'm wondering why they decided on letting the user change the color only on one config. Everything else is platinum.
That is gross. Of course you can clean it with some lightly soapy warm water, if you're careful not to let it soak under the keys. Beyond the alcantara picking / soaking up dirt and oil, it will also show wear, especially if you're using it daily. MS would have been better off choosing a material like real wood (wood veneer) as the keyboard cover. Unfinished wood can feel nice to the touch, and when it picks up oils / dirt, takes on a patina, instead of just looking like dirty fabric.
Of course I'm partial to wood since my company makes a super thin wood veneer that can be used in situations like this...
$1000 and 4Go of Ram ?
I'll wait for this guy's opinion before deciding.
Apple macbooks start at $1299, you have no reason to even laugh and the screen is a mess on this device so I give microsoft props for giving a beautiful device with up to date specs and not a basic m3 processor......
