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Microsoft and Apple must be going head-to-head in who can get the best ad out.. First time i saw a Microsoft ad this good.
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Microsoft Debuts Magic Keyboard-Like Surface Laptop Studio and Surface Duo 2 Foldable Smartphone
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Ya me too..
Microsoft and Apple must be going head-to-head in who can get the best ad out.. First time i saw a Microsoft ad this good.
I have the exact setup you state - ryzen desktop and iPad Pro.
I find it quite painful to annotate pdf’s on the iPad Pro to be honest. It’s more to do with the file system than anything else.
Certainly would never look for a 2in1 to replace a desktop! I buy tools to suit my workflows and fee the new studio will provide a good combination on my desk for what I need.
I would if I bought this fugly thing.
You just explained why I returned the magic keyboard for my 11” Pro: the stupid lip of the Pro hovers right over the top row of keys so I was constantly slamming my fingers onto it when trying to type on the two top rows. Bad design.
Microsoft should figure out a way to get rid of the keyboard altogether. It is the biggest obstacle to artificial intelligence right now. The sooner Microsoft gets rid of the keyboard, the sooner it can lay a foundation for the comprehensive computing that AI makes possible.
This product is absolutely garbage and it has looks that even Panos’ (replace Panos with Windows 8 lead design guy) mother couldn’t love!
Panos states in the vent that Microsoft Surface team is dedicated to design … did they miss that course or just pay for the certificate??!
even that surface Duo 2’s camera bump is UGLY! Did even the Galaxy Fold 1 have a bump that big?! There was rumours of a simple for 1 decent iPhone 7 like camera bump that would be a non issue when folded out flat and held like a glass-slab-phone. And people here complain Apple is too fixated on thin. Jony Ive couldn’t design something this terrible.
industry NEEDs to learn, and fast, that Foldablw is NOt the way forward. Rollable or slate. Every time I see a big screen fold smartphone I keep trying not to think of the Nokia Communicator lineup that ended with the E90. Until new graphene or better battery technology becomes a standard it’s futile
I have a 13” Pro and I haven’t run into that issue. Though I don’t use the number keys that much.
I manage all pdfs, notes and annotations in Notability. It's an awesome tool and all backed up to whatever cloud service you want. Notability is to iPads as excel was to PCs. Amazing for my workflow.
I have some stuff which is just signatures for email attachments, that I manage locally on a ipad drive and then reattach.
Same applies the other way. Certainly would never look for a 2in1 to replace an ipad pro!
{lighter, more battery, iphone pros, works on plane apps/movies, has notability!}
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Biggest thing I miss from my work’s windows laptop when using my MBP:
In Windows’ File Manager, I can copy and paste the path.
In Finder, I can’t.
When I have 5 projects, each with a big folder hierarchy, that saves so much time.
Anything in Finder that can do this?
In Windows’ File Manager, I can copy and paste the path.
In Finder, I can’t.
When I have 5 projects, each with a big folder hierarchy, that saves so much time.
Anything in Finder that can do this?
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I love the Surface Laptop Studio. If only it ran macOS or iPadOS...
I disagree with those that say it's ugly... To me it looks like the closest thing to an Apple product.
In any case, I don't need a device like this (iPad 12.9 FTW), but this is about as all-in-one as you can get.
Not bad, Mike. Not bad at all.
Edit: I also wish the Magic Keyboard was flexible like this.
I disagree with those that say it's ugly... To me it looks like the closest thing to an Apple product.
In any case, I don't need a device like this (iPad 12.9 FTW), but this is about as all-in-one as you can get.
Not bad, Mike. Not bad at all.
Edit: I also wish the Magic Keyboard was flexible like this.
Um, the Surface Laptop Studio is not Magic Keyboard-like at all: there’s no floating hinge as in the Magic Keyboard and the desktop Surface Studio.
The SLS display is definitely more akin to the awesome kickstands in the Surface Pros. Now, if you want to talk the hilarious use of a CGI Hummingbird in MS’ promo of the SLS graphics card as the Magic Keyboard comparison, sure.😉
Sadly, the internal specs and crappy pricing tiers make the SLS a non starter for me, but I am definitely up for trying a Surface Pro 8 if the latency/screen refresh improves the Surface Pen experience.
The SLS display is definitely more akin to the awesome kickstands in the Surface Pros. Now, if you want to talk the hilarious use of a CGI Hummingbird in MS’ promo of the SLS graphics card as the Magic Keyboard comparison, sure.😉
Sadly, the internal specs and crappy pricing tiers make the SLS a non starter for me, but I am definitely up for trying a Surface Pro 8 if the latency/screen refresh improves the Surface Pen experience.
Thicker or Periscope.
I agree it looks big and also that there may be problems with the hinges, but we will see. The only reason people complain about thicker phones is because Apple have made them care about things being thin at all costs. Whilst I'd agree that smaller and lighter are good qualities there are limits to this.
Too thin makes it uncomfortable to hold for example.
No, unless you want to live with pain and frustration every day. That's my takeaway from many years of using Microsoft products.
Here you go. Under the line where the curved bottom starts, you see thick black line -- that is the vent. There's one on the other side too.
Attachments
It is under the side panel where side panel and curved bottom meets. It should be on both sides of the laptop. There is a long thin opening.
Check my last post on this thread for image:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...o-2-foldable-smartphone.2312676/post-30326772
Is this a joke I'm not in on or something?
If there's a fan, there's a vent... I mean, you're joking right?
How do you think cooling works exactly?
Because that’s always been the problem with touch-screen laptops: ergonomics.
Having to reach over the keyboard to touch the screen isn’t a good experience. Microsoft have finally realised this and designed a laptop that allows you to position the screen in front of the keyboard for touch input.
It‘s not perfect, but it’s an improvement.
18.9mm
for comparison:
MBP 15 is 16.2mm
MBP 13 is 15.6mm
It’s really not that thick..
I am not using it a lot because I have an iPad pro and the remarkable first gen e-ink devices. Both of them are superior in note taking for various reasons.
For decent note taking you need to put a paper like screen protector that is matte for the devices that have glass in front.
Remarkable has no glass and the handwriting experience is on whole other level without a screen protector but has many other limitations with most notable that is only black and white.
The writing experience with the paper like matte protector improves dramatically in iPad Pro and I suspect that would improve it dramatically in my surface book. But it deteriorates the picture quality of the device. So since I have other devices for note taking, and there is not even one adequate software in windows for pdf annotating (and the battery on the tablet part is not sufficient), I decided not to compromise the picture quality on my laptop and I have a glass protector on my surface book instead. Thus I am not using the stylus a lot in my surface book because the implementation is not great not because is a bad idea.
regardless of the stylus, many times I feel the need to detach and get the top portion next to me on the bed to read or see something. The fact that the battery is so limited in that mode it stress me. They could implement a smart solution like a proper tablet mode with a lite version of the software but anyway.
So yes I am not using often because I have other devices that do note taking better and because I have a glass screen protector in order not to ruin the laptop experience. The trade off was not worth it like the iPad.
The stylus capabilities of these devices should complement more specialised note taking devices but I still value them and help me on my workflow. And sometimes you don’t need to carry many devices to perform all your tasks.
I agree with you the surface book is great as a laptop alone not because has extra abilities.
For me, it's not the specs but the form factor and weight. I already have a Macbook Pro which is my main machine, so having a small device that can be thrown in a bag and not even noticed (iPad like) but one that is capable of running proper desktop apps and a file system is the main decider.
Again, an iPad would be the ideal device, but Apple have chosen to only allow us to run a stripped-down phone OS on it, instead of a proper desktop OS. They advertise the iPad Pro like a machine that one can work on, but that is laughable when it can't even run XCode, VS Code, a terminal or a proper system-wide file system.
You can drag the folder to the Terminal window, and Finder will paste the path. Also works in TextEdit in plain-text mode.
So for your use case: open Terminal
cd <drop folder>
open .
and the folder will be opened in Finder.
I love where MS is going. I do love Windows 11 looks. It will be a tough choice for me later to pick between surface and a new MacBook. Ever since MS introduces WSL2 on Windows, I have had totally different aspects of MS. Dang, if I buy Surface my iPad pro will be a waste.