yeah ... like charging mat ... airpods ... hompod ... and apple tile (oh not presented at all) ... yeah apple products are instantly available
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yeah ... like charging mat ... airpods ... hompod ... and apple tile (oh not presented at all) ... yeah apple products are instantly available
I miss the uniqueness of Apple. Remember things like mag port, lighted Apple logo, works with any other device (the old days when Apple implemented all common ports, instead of forcing their own), etc.
Now Apple is just as common as the others; except terrible services, terrible software quality, and lack innovation. Not saying they are worse than the others, just overall no real differentiation.
Thank you Mr. Tim Cook focused on profits at the expense of brand.
$1800 for a maxed out Surface Pro X. Its looks interesting, but that's a lot for what is essentially the equal of an i5 processor.
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Apple is now a service company. Their devices, like iPhones, iPads, etc are just delivery devices for their services.
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Apple: Releases phone with the best battery life, best camera, best display, fastest processor, longest OS support and highest durability of any flagship smartphone.
Everyone: "Meh"
Microsoft: Releases two phones and two tablets stuck together
Everyone: "Now THAT'S innovation!"
Everyone: "Meh"
Microsoft: Releases two phones and two tablets stuck together
Everyone: "Now THAT'S innovation!"
As a current owner of Surface Pro 3, Surface Pro 4 and Surface Book - I was totally unimpressed by offerings. Yes, nice upgrades for laptop and Pro (if you need an upgrade, which I do not) - but otherwise... felt very flat.
Duel screen devices seem completely pointless to me; a solution in search of a problem. I would not be surprised if they do not actually launch.
I don't know if anyone saw it, but I could swear that the right earbud actually almost fell out of presenter's ear as she came out to the stage, hmm? As a consumer, I have exactly zero interest in "Office in my earbuds". I am baffled by that pitch. Is this to be a business product? Wut?
Having been burned by Surface RT (repeatedly) - I have exactly zero interest in non-Intel Windows device.
I dunno. I don't have much good to say about it all, obviously, which is disappointing actually for me. But there is only so many times you can watch Panos getting teary about details of design.
Duel screen devices seem completely pointless to me; a solution in search of a problem. I would not be surprised if they do not actually launch.
I don't know if anyone saw it, but I could swear that the right earbud actually almost fell out of presenter's ear as she came out to the stage, hmm? As a consumer, I have exactly zero interest in "Office in my earbuds". I am baffled by that pitch. Is this to be a business product? Wut?
Having been burned by Surface RT (repeatedly) - I have exactly zero interest in non-Intel Windows device.
I dunno. I don't have much good to say about it all, obviously, which is disappointing actually for me. But there is only so many times you can watch Panos getting teary about details of design.
I like MS hardware and I think this is the way to do folding display tech I think having the actual screen fold may look better at first because it has no bezel but over time that folding screen is going to look like crap from the repeated stress of folding the screen. This design should age really well and they just have to make the bezel seamless which is possible today. I wish they never got rid of the windows operating system though in a lot of ways I thought they had the best interface for phones.
The tablet sized one looked kind of cool but how is it really going to look folded up with a keyboard stuck to one side and a pen stuck to the other? They were pretty careful about the angles they showed these at but it seems clunky. I did like how the keyboard and screen worked once they had it in laptop mode or using separately but slapping it on the side of a folded 2 sided tablet with a pen stuck to the other side is going to look really bad so hopefully they streamline this a bit. Overall though I thought the idea was great because you do want an actual keyboard and leaving that strip to either be a trackpad or touch bar interface was a nice touch and good flexibility based on what kinds of things you are trying to do. If I'm editing a photo I may want a trackpad or just doing emails a touchbar may be more helpful so I think that seemed really clever.
I wouldn't really switch to any of this but I'm glad they are out there taking swings and I do think foldable tech will be important when they can get the sizes down significantly. Right now these things look like someone just stuck two iPad or iPhones together and that isn't going to cut it. When they shrink each size down 50% or so (which is inevitable) this starts to get really interesting so I'm glad these companies are pushing the boundaries on this.
The tablet sized one looked kind of cool but how is it really going to look folded up with a keyboard stuck to one side and a pen stuck to the other? They were pretty careful about the angles they showed these at but it seems clunky. I did like how the keyboard and screen worked once they had it in laptop mode or using separately but slapping it on the side of a folded 2 sided tablet with a pen stuck to the other side is going to look really bad so hopefully they streamline this a bit. Overall though I thought the idea was great because you do want an actual keyboard and leaving that strip to either be a trackpad or touch bar interface was a nice touch and good flexibility based on what kinds of things you are trying to do. If I'm editing a photo I may want a trackpad or just doing emails a touchbar may be more helpful so I think that seemed really clever.
I wouldn't really switch to any of this but I'm glad they are out there taking swings and I do think foldable tech will be important when they can get the sizes down significantly. Right now these things look like someone just stuck two iPad or iPhones together and that isn't going to cut it. When they shrink each size down 50% or so (which is inevitable) this starts to get really interesting so I'm glad these companies are pushing the boundaries on this.
I agree with the folks that are saying, "Nice hardware, terrible software". It's Apple's software that primarily keeps me coming back to Cupertino now that MS and others emphasize hardware design. BTW the MS laptops and tablets have a basic design created by Apple. Ever since the initial release of the iPhone and iPad, everyone has copied Apple's basic designs.
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I like the always connected part of the Surface Pro X. I've admired those Snapdragon Windows machines with always on LTE and 20 hour battery lives.
As someone who travels for work and wants to be able to just work seamlessly whether in a taxi, airport or train it sounds like a very handy feature.
I'd never buy one to run Windows but I dearly hope the next MacBook Pro will at least come with a SIM card slot for always on LTE/5G.
Until then I carry a 13inch MBP and an iPad Pro with cellular. Use the iPad on the go and the MBP when working in the offices of our group wherever I am.
As someone who travels for work and wants to be able to just work seamlessly whether in a taxi, airport or train it sounds like a very handy feature.
I'd never buy one to run Windows but I dearly hope the next MacBook Pro will at least come with a SIM card slot for always on LTE/5G.
Until then I carry a 13inch MBP and an iPad Pro with cellular. Use the iPad on the go and the MBP when working in the offices of our group wherever I am.
I have a Surface Pro 4 and my wife has a Surface Laptop - both used heavily as business machines. We're both ex MacBook owners. I still have a 2009 iMac 27 inch.
We love the Surfaces. Hardware is easily the equal of Apple of old and Windows 10 is light years better than previous versions.
For Tablet use, the SP4 is good but not as slick as an iPad. But the vast majority of my business use requires the ease provided by a trackpad and keyboard so pure touch screen use is a very low percentage for me.
I ran an iPad Pro with Smart Keyboard alongside the SP4 for a year and sadly, the iPad couldn't get close to the Surface for productivity.
We love the Surfaces. Hardware is easily the equal of Apple of old and Windows 10 is light years better than previous versions.
For Tablet use, the SP4 is good but not as slick as an iPad. But the vast majority of my business use requires the ease provided by a trackpad and keyboard so pure touch screen use is a very low percentage for me.
I ran an iPad Pro with Smart Keyboard alongside the SP4 for a year and sadly, the iPad couldn't get close to the Surface for productivity.
Oh, that’s pretty awesome still. Gotta be able to run doom95.exe or what’s the point?
Did you even read my post?
I said why would people buy the Pro X instead of the Pro 7, which is $100 less and runs ALL Windows software.
Well it certainly doesn’t look like their bending anything. It looks like they have two screens attached to each other by a hinge.
It’s worse than that. It can’t run all Windows software (specifically 64bit).
Apple is still a hardware company as the vast majority of their revenue comes from hardware. Services are just the icing on the cake, and a way to keep selling more hardware (to stay in the ecosystem).
One thing Microsoft is good at is giving their people up for interviews to the right places to get good puff pieces. If they give Panos Panay to The Verge they’re guaranteed to get plenty of positive press from the site. Ars Technica is probably the best in terms of not pushing company hype/PR. The Verge is the worst. Often times their articles read like company PR pieces. I’m sure they do that though because it’s how they get access, get invited to events.
A first look at Surface Duo, Microsoft’s foldable Android phone
The mythical Surface phone is here.
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I’m assuming you mean 64-but x86 software, then yes, you’d be correct in saying that the Surface Pro X doesn’t run those. But software compiled for ARM can run in 64-bit mode.
Yes. Doing something new and interesting is what attracts people. Apple has just been spec chasing the last few years. Anyone can make "faster, longer, more durable."
Yea look at the first iPhone demo. They said that Steve had to do stuff in specific order, or the phone would crash.
It’s 13 hours vs 10.5 for the Pro 7. It’s not one of those promised “20 hour” devices. Only a slight upgrade in battery life.
Literally everyone has a smartphone. I tether my MacBook to my iPhone and get LTE anywhere.
I disagree. It started with cloud services and iTunes. Now we got Apple TV+, Apple Arcade and Apple News. Apple is very intent on becoming a services company, as that is where the long-term money is. Putting out new hardware every year costs R&D dollars. Service development, with its monthly fees, not nearly as much.