we need more details, is that 13 for the X in always on mode? And is that 10.5 for regular always tethered? I prefer tethered same data plan, but I always need an extra battery for my phone or be plugged in.
Last edited:
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Microsoft Debuts New Dual-Screen Devices, Updated Surface Laptops and More
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
we need more details, is that 13 for the X in always on mode? And is that 10.5 for regular always tethered? I prefer tethered same data plan, but I always need an extra battery for my phone or be plugged in.
Not so fast. These new Surface products look nice but we don’t know the actual level of reliability yet.
Microsoft has a horrible reliability track record with the Surface Book with many units returned for repair.
Apple is obviously not immune to this either when their manufacturing partners cut corners on parts or processes.
Until we know more from actual user experience we can’t jump to conclusions at this point.
Last edited:
Microsoft will convert its software, eg Office. So the business world will definitely be interested, especially the traveller.
Nope. They’ll simply keep buying an intel laptop or pc. It’s not like MS hasn’t been down this road before.
I dont think its DOA, even Apple is going to be going to ARM on MAC OS PC as far as what I have seen in the past. and the galaxy book S is coming with ARM as well
and yes MS has been down this road before with Windows RT but this is not the same
I assume it's just a matter of checking the Compile for ARM checkbox in Visual Studio. If that's the case, why wouldn't they?
Ruh-roh... This is going to be a tough decision. The one thing that's been keeping me away from the Surface Pro tablet devices was its lack of LTE. This closes that gap. If they stuck with the more durable design of the previous models -- and if Apple misses the mark again with their more fragile design -- I may need to make the jump.
At that point, the only remaining decision is do I want to use Microsoft's unsecured platform...
I have to admit, Microsoft seems to be listening, where Apple continues to hold their ears and say "La-La-La".
At that point, the only remaining decision is do I want to use Microsoft's unsecured platform...
I have to admit, Microsoft seems to be listening, where Apple continues to hold their ears and say "La-La-La".
Apple Reinvention as Services Company Starts for Real Monday
When Apple Inc. boss Tim Cook takes the stage at the Steve Jobs Theater in Silicon Valley on Monday, he will usher in a new era for the world’s largest technology company.
www.bloomberg.com
One could easily say the same about the iPad Pro. Incredible hardware with a limited "mobile" OS.
They could have hit a home run with the phone if they made it dual boot and ran both Android and 10X with their custom chip. The ultimate portable productivity machine, and have sim card load basic phone/text features in 10X. Imagine a outside screen so you dont have to open to check the phone/notifications and running Android on the outside while running simultaneus 10X in the inside with option to reverse with easy connection to external monitor and docking. They missed it big time here. Mr. Cook, ya hearing me? or you busy being a politician?
Last edited:
That's what MS fans said about "Windows on ARM". That didn't take off either. There is no substantive reason why this attempt at Windows on ARM will fare any better.
MS does this on a regular basis. They re-re-re-re-rebooted their Windows Phone platform and it never reached critical mass. At the beginning of each reboot, people were saying "this time will be different"... when asked for a reason, they responded with either MS' marketing points or wishful thinking.
Windows on ARM this time with be DOA... and every subsequent attempt will also be DOA unless MS takes a serious look at the core of Windows and redesigns it (or significant portions of its subsystems) to accommodate the architecture.
I would prefer Apple add touch & pencil capability to macOS and bring that to the iPad Pro.
[automerge]1570115462[/automerge]
The difference this time is that the Surface Pro X is running on a custom-designed ARM processor built from the ground up for laptop type form factors as opposed to before where Windows devices were just running on a stock 835 processor built for phones. There should be a dramatic increase in performance this time around.
The iPhone doesn't have the best anything spec wise. They have the best real world end results.
That would be nice for sure but Apple would likely never do that. But in the business of custom-designed ARM processors Apple has nobody to fear. They only have to take the next step, maybe with an A14x next year....
They've outdone Apple. But since at Apple is same old, same old for years, that isn't that difficult.
I'm super excited about their new products. I'm disappointed they're still using the microsoft connector for charging and docking but other than that i'm very happy with their release. Their connector reminds me of the old 30 pin connector apple used...
When they move to TB3 i'll upgrade my work laptop to a surface product for sure.
When they move to TB3 i'll upgrade my work laptop to a surface product for sure.
I get what you are referring to. But to be honest... Windows has made great steps these last few years where as Apples Mac OS took baby steps. Everyone seems to leapfrog Apple these days.
Lol, Tim will surprise us all with a new shade of pink. You'll see this only coming from Apple... That's all folks, see you next year!