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Microsoft Debuts New Dual-Screen Devices, Updated Surface Laptops and More
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Never mind all this innovation. I'm sure Tim Cook has some new Apple Watch bands to release any time soon. The fightback is on!
Very nice. Love my current Surface Pro. While Tim is out playing politics, MS and Samsung are innovating! Focus on the business Tim and stop playing rock star.
The arm surface pro x seemed interesting but have to see performance. Don’t care about ear pods. Neo seems ok for a courier redux but too far out to really care and seems niche.
The real news is the phone. Not for the phone itself. It looks like garbage imo. But that MS is working with google to integrate android and windows. Hoping it spills over to pixel phones and reg windows.
The real news is the phone. Not for the phone itself. It looks like garbage imo. But that MS is working with google to integrate android and windows. Hoping it spills over to pixel phones and reg windows.
Really interesting stuff and I'm glad the folks in the Microsoft camp have a lot of new and updated products to look forward to. Plus, having direct and vibrant competition like this is ultimately good for Apple (and those of in their camp) in the long run.
If not new bands, then new emojis.That will keep AAPL fans happy for a while. Distract them with emojis and superficial gimmicks.
Since it has an ARM processor, I wonder how the app selection will be. Will there be Photoshop and such? Will it emulate x86 for running older Windows apps?
$999 - Surface Laptop 13.5" - Quad Core i5 10th Gen (Quad-core 10th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-1035G7 Processor), 8GB DRAM, 128GB SSD, 1 USB-C ports, 1 USB-A, headphone jack, Surface Connect Port.
$1099 - MacBook Air 13" - Dual Core i5 8th Gen (Dual-core 8th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-8210Y Processor), 8GB DRAM, 128GB SSD, 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports, headphone jack.
Geekbench - 10th Gen - http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/search?utf8=✓&q=Core+i5-1035G7
Geekbench - 8th Gen - http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/search?utf8=✓&q=Core+i5-8210Y
It may be time for Apple to start looking at what their next iteration of the MacBook Air 13" will be (10th Gen U or 10th Gen Y) and if it's past time for them to offer a MacBook Air with a 15" screen. With the 16" MacBook Pro seemingly around the corner, along with demand for a 15" MBA, I think it is...just my 2¢.
Also, I think the time is ripe for dual-core CPUs to pass out of Apple's computer lineup.
$1099 - MacBook Air 13" - Dual Core i5 8th Gen (Dual-core 8th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-8210Y Processor), 8GB DRAM, 128GB SSD, 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports, headphone jack.
Geekbench - 10th Gen - http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/search?utf8=✓&q=Core+i5-1035G7
Geekbench - 8th Gen - http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/search?utf8=✓&q=Core+i5-8210Y
It may be time for Apple to start looking at what their next iteration of the MacBook Air 13" will be (10th Gen U or 10th Gen Y) and if it's past time for them to offer a MacBook Air with a 15" screen. With the 16" MacBook Pro seemingly around the corner, along with demand for a 15" MBA, I think it is...just my 2¢.
Also, I think the time is ripe for dual-core CPUs to pass out of Apple's computer lineup.
Since these devices aren't used as mobile phones, I have no problem with them folding, unlike Samsung's re-released folding phone.
However, as tablets I see little utility in their being able to be folded. It's not like it can fold small enough to carry in my pocket. That being the case, I'd rather have a full-size tablet with a single continuous screen.
I don't think Apple has anything to worry about.
However, as tablets I see little utility in their being able to be folded. It's not like it can fold small enough to carry in my pocket. That being the case, I'd rather have a full-size tablet with a single continuous screen.
I don't think Apple has anything to worry about.
Looks like Apple A13 bionic processor is still faster and we have not even seen the A14 which will be out by the time Microsoft gets their product to market.
I don't view these devices as being innovative - see my Post #60, above. I'm OK with others having a lower threshold on that subject.
Watched the live stream.
They demoed several of them onstage.
Looked pretty damn good to me.
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They're soliciting developers. The products need apps that support the form factor.
APFS by itself is more “innovative” than the entire MS event. Do you have any idea how much work is involved in creating a robust high performance file system? It’s a huge undertaking. More work than several versions of iOS put together. And most users have never heard of it.
The real questions people should be asking is what’s Apples end game? They’ve worked very hard on some underlying technology in their devices. APFS, NVMe storage, in-line hardware encryption, ridiculously powerful processors (for mobile) to name a few. They are all massive overkill for just a “phone”.
It’s obvious Apple has some other plans for the future and they’re laying the groundwork for those plans in these technologies. They might not appear on any feature list, but they are still very significant and innovative.
This is why I’m convinced Apple will move to ARM for their MacBooks or other machines. These technologies are not needed in a phone.
Back in 2016 Apple- Cook released the Macbook Pro with only USB-C ports.
It is kind of pathetic that in 2019, the entry iPad still has a lighting connector instead of a USB-C.
I was ready to buy one, but when I found out that still has lighting connector and only pen v1 can be used I passed.
Similar situation of upgrading the iMac and still ship with 5400rpm HD.
It is really sad to see Apple design looking so bad after all these years.
It is kind of pathetic that in 2019, the entry iPad still has a lighting connector instead of a USB-C.
I was ready to buy one, but when I found out that still has lighting connector and only pen v1 can be used I passed.
Similar situation of upgrading the iMac and still ship with 5400rpm HD.
It is really sad to see Apple design looking so bad after all these years.
This is exactly the point I try to make when people say, “I can get a Windows machine for a fraction of the cost of the Mac!” Of course you can, but you are also getting a fraction of the ease of use and stability... you have to work more for a Windows machine than a Mac.
John Gruber recounted a story told to him of the day the Galaxy Fold was first announced. Jony Ive was in an iOS 13 meeting with a bunch of other Apple employees. The Galaxy Fold came up. Ive went into went into all this detail about why it wouldn’t work, where it would fail, how Apple has prototypes of stuff like this in it’s labs, etc. And sure enough not long after Samsung ended up pulling the device to fix critical flaws with it.
I will be very curious to see if either of these foldable devices from Microsoft actually ship. The fact that they admit it will be at least a year makes me think they’re no where near ready for prime time. Maybe they will be by Christmas 2020 but will the tech press have moved on to the next fad by then?
I will be very curious to see if either of these foldable devices from Microsoft actually ship. The fact that they admit it will be at least a year makes me think they’re no where near ready for prime time. Maybe they will be by Christmas 2020 but will the tech press have moved on to the next fad by then?
I feel like all of the Surface products have been the same since gen 1. They only update the CPU and that's it. Nothing actually making me want to choose the Surface over any other laptop brand.
Actually, why do they still bother making separate Surface devices? All of them are 99% the same and do the same thing. And now the Surface Pro X or whatever it was called.
Actually, why do they still bother making separate Surface devices? All of them are 99% the same and do the same thing. And now the Surface Pro X or whatever it was called.
Demos are obviously tightly controlled. I’ll reserve judgment until reviews come out. That’s assuming they actually ship.
Yes... they do. They are full blown computers. Intel Core CPUs, SSD storage, fast ram.
My daughter uses a Surface Pro 4 for school work. Runs everything she needs.
Office 365 included.
Not if you're trying to generate developer & consumer excitement
Apple has there new laptop lineup soon and be prepared for some amazing new Macbooks!!!!!!!!!
"Excitement" that eventually leads to very poor results in the market, at the very least as far as hardware is concerned.
This is sarcasm, am I right?
Otherwise, your troll ticket back to Windows Land can be picked up at the Courtesy Desk.