Microsoft DESERVES TO DIE! (meaculpa)

Discussion in 'Windows, Linux & Others on the Mac' started by PracticalMac, Aug 24, 2013.

  1. PracticalMac, Aug 24, 2013
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    Anyone who loves Winblows blindly must be a BORG from the MS Collective.

    Just when I was beginning to like Win 7, I was smacked down and rudely reminded how just and absolute file of feces the OS and company is!


    I purchased and installed the Professional version.
    Not "Basic Home" or "Home", the Pro version.

    I wanted to in stalled Japanese Language support on my computer, you know, the ability type Japanese on documents only (not make the entire system Japanese).

    It tells me I need either the "Ultimate" or "Enterprise" version.

    SAY WHAT?????????

    $129 MORE just so I can write in different languages????
    In fact, that is ALL the Ultimate has, more languages (well, ok, it also has some kind of encryption too)

    I have the most foul thoughts running though my head.


    For the last 15 years ALL Macintosh has full language support (OS 9 too), and iOS supports all the major ones too. I am sure even Android and Linux has excellent language support, but for MickyShaft, its an additional $129

    That company deserves to go away. Perhaps then the MS slaves can try something, ANYTHING else, and realize simply how terrible Microsuck is.


    (OK, ok, I did not see if Win8 include languages, but I think on XP it was an included on disk.)

    /rant rant rant

    UPDATE:
    I was misspelling the world "Tokyo" into computer.
    Tokyo is the common English spelling.
    If you want to type it using a US keyboard, it is ToUkyoU.


    (Actually, I did know I needed extra characters, but didn't know it was two U's)

    FYI: OOsaka and KyotoU are other cities.

    What surprised me was in Win7, it only gave me Kana alternates, no Kanji at all. On a Mac it does offer Kanji alternatives, even if they are not the Kanji I wanted.
    The MS help site said I needed "LIP" to have Language support, only on Ultimate and Enterprise. What MS is not clear about is the ability to change the entire system to different language. Text entry is still supported.

    Yes, I was making a mistake, and my opinion of Win7 is much better.

    Now the Microsoft help site, that is different matter. ;):D
     
  2. ri0ku macrumors 6502a

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    How can you think people will take you seriously when you use capslock to insinuate that you are shouting, and that you wish for something to die....:rolleyes:
     
  3. NewbieCanada macrumors 68030

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    besides which, why should we care about it?
     
  4. FrancoisC macrumors 6502

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    You don't need to buy anything...

    http://www.tofugu.com/guides/type-japanese-windows-7/

    That took a whole 5 seconds of my life to find, way less time than it took you to write all that nonsense :rolleyes:

    Edit: the "ultimate" deal is that you can have the whole os in any language you want.
     
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  6. PracticalMac thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Nope! Does not work.
    It is very limited function.

    I can do Hiragana (ときょ) and Katakana (トキョ), but not the critical Kanji (東京 : Tokyo).

    Not having Kanji is like not having Japanese at all.
     
  7. SaSaSushi macrumors 68040

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    Kanji does not appear on the list of options from the Microsoft IME. In order to get kanji, you type the word in hiragana and then hit the henkan key (space bar). This is how it works even in Japanese Windows (and OS X).
     
  8. Mr. McMac Suspended

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    I love Windows 7. There! I said it :) Seriously, I love both Windows and OSX. Both have there place in my life. I hope neither go away....
     
  9. Virginaustralia macrumors regular

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    And then they destroyed their reputation further and ruined Windows 7 by making Windows 8. I cant even legally buy a copy of windows 7 from my local store!!! I hate win8 it sucks its very buggy and designed for tablets or stupid hybrid computers with touch screens that really help NOTHING but for people to use childish squares to get to useless apps or to the desktop where they can ACTUALLY get work DONE.
     
  10. MJL macrumors 6502a

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    Actually in 8.1 some form of the start button is coming back. There are already shareware third party start buttons that make Windows 8 behave more or less as Windows 7. I am running 8 now and it no longer bothers me - 8 boots directly into the desktop.
     
  11. SandboxGeneral Moderator

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    So... Because Microsofts pricing model isn't to everyone's liking, the company, as a whole, must die? That seems a bit harsh. :rolleyes:
     
  12. Virginaustralia macrumors regular

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    Yes. Yes It does. But some things just need to happen :)
     
  13. saturnotaku macrumors 68000

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    Then buy it online. It's still readily available in OEM and retail forms.
     
  14. chrono1081 macrumors 604

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    I personally hate Windows as I find it sluggish for many tasks that should be instant (taking a screenshot for example), poorly thought out (still no multiple desktops? It's 2013!), and just a pain sometimes.

    That being said I support Windows environments for a living so I definitely don't want it to die. (Although Windows 8 can die, that's straight up garbage).
     
  15. bdrake47 macrumors regular

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    Let's not forget history that M$ has as an original developer for Apple way back in the day. They got big, competitive, then bigger, and in some aspects are what drove Apple to innovate and resulted in the great machines and OS we have now.

    They still retain more market share in some segments and are still the de facto standard for business productivity suites (Office). Yes, there are Pages/Keynote/Numbers, and OpenOffice, LibreOffice, ad nauseum, but MS is still the 800lb. gorilla in that market.

    Competition, no matter how insignificant it seems lately from M$, Samesung, Google and others is still what creates growth and innovation for all of us to benefit from.

    Interestingly, the OP posted that huge rant on an Apple-centric forum and it still baffles me why so many still try to shoehorn that buggy OS with strange licensing into a beautiful machine like a Mac. If you need Word, use Office for Mac, type Japanese. Done.

    Disclaimer: I do own Parallels, but have not booted a VM in nearly two years, there is just so many good OS X options available now. Gaming is another story we all know.
     
  16. b06tmm macrumors regular

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    If it were me, I would've researched which version of Windows offered Kanji and not assume they all did.

    Does anyone remember when Bill Gates poured a bunch of money into Apple, saving them from bankruptcy?

    Lot's of Kool-Aid drinkers here, but that's no surprise.
     
  17. m98custom1212, Aug 26, 2013
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    Its not buggy at all.

    LOL.. Are you serious?
     
  18. Virginaustralia macrumors regular

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    I cant my laptop is already on 8

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    wow biggest understatement of the year. Do you even have windows 8? doesnt sound like it
     
  19. PracticalMac thread starter macrumors 68030

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    And you do not think I KNOW how this works???

    I have been using Japanese since System 7.5 and, I think, Windows 98SE (for sure XP)

    I have tried, and Win7 does not show any kind of Kanji, PERIOD

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    Call it the last straw (that killed the camel, you know?)

    By itself this "pricing model" alone is not cause of this rant, just the latest knock on them.
     
  20. SaSaSushi macrumors 68040

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    Yes, considering that you are saying that you can't get Japanese input on non-Ultimate/Enterprise Windows, that is exactly what I was saying.

    Windows is not the problem here.
     
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    Sometimes it just doesn't pay to be ignorant when purchasing things. Especially when it is just so much easier to assume things rather that research.
     
  23. FrancoisC, Aug 26, 2013
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    The fact that windows 8 is on your laptop does not prevent you from installing 7 on it. In this aspect, windows is better than OS X since you can install older windows (up to a certain point...) on newer machine if needs be. Try installing snow leopard on a 2012/2013 Mac!

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    Windows 8 buggy? With all the 3rd party bloatware that come pre installed on most machine it's a possibility, but not microsoft's fault. I made a clean install for bootcamp use and except the fact that I'm not sold on the "metro" interface, it's by far the fastest/leanest windows to date.

    Just because you don't like something, or are not good at using it does not make it a bad product. Try to be more objective :)
     
  24. 12vElectronics macrumors 68040

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    Windows 7 is awesome. Windows 8 is the worst possible thing ever.
     
  25. narutoninjakid macrumors 6502

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    Sorry about your Problem but the Company doesnt have to close because of this there are other options to solve your problem
     

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