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This is my theory:
The ad agency is dragging everyone around by their nose, making everyone and their grandmother follow thier every move and direction.

Think of the ad agency as conductors.

My ad agency background says it's the ad agency scrambling to avoid being fired.
 
Yes, once again, they follow the leader.
You act like its a bad thing to learn from the best is a crime, or something. It's called competition. By definition, a rival is a person who is competing for the same object or goal as another, or who tries to equal or outdo another.

80% is not everyone. Your lack of ability to comprehend salient details stated within posts clearly reflects your own ignorance. For Windows aficionados and geeks, Windows is just fine. For those looking for a bargain, and/or who could care less about productivity, Windows is just fine. For ignorant supporters such as yourself, we all do admire your efforts.
Looking for a bargain? Comparable PCs are much cheaper than their Mac counterparts. Less productivity? So I'm guessing 95% of the world (i.e. Windows Users) experiences less productivity than you? If anything, the staying power of Windows in the business world shows how much it's productivity is worth. The fact that most businesses choose to staff their workers with PCs must be puzzling to people like you, right?
 
There's a print campaign too...


Windows_Print_Manifesto_540x496.jpg


http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10045384-56.html?tag=mncol

Imagine if MS put a TV version of this ad all over the place.... get people hearing the ad etc.

Then imagine Apple making a new Mac/PC ad. With "I'm a PC" cutting a hole through a wall and reciting the text above - while Mac stands outside looking at the hole and raising his eyebrows at what PC is saying.
 
lmfao!!!!!!!! wtf!?????? am i missing something???? what was the point here lol????

That is pointless but really funny

none-the-less I had this thought because i'm sure Apple has the "Get A Mac" Ads copyrighted and if windows makes pretty much the same thing just from a PC view, isn't that copyright infringement? I'm 90% sure Apple will be on that faster than Viacom was on Youtube...wait that was actually kinda slow...
 
Imagine if MS put a TV version of this ad all over the place.... get people hearing the ad etc.

Then imagine Apple making a new Mac/PC ad. With "I'm a PC" cutting a hole through a wall and reciting the text above - while Mac stands outside looking at the hole and raising his eyebrows at what PC is saying.

for the strangest reason that reminds me of that apple ad from the 80's about the delivery person who throws an ax or something at the screen.

Just like that didnt make much, if any ,sense at all
 
You act like its a bad thing to learn from the best is a crime, or something. It's called competition. By definition, a rival is a person who is competing for the same object or goal as another, or who tries to equal or outdo another.


Looking for a bargain? Comparable PCs are much cheaper than their Mac counterparts. Less productivity? So I'm guessing 95% of the world (i.e. Windows Users) experiences less productivity than you? If anything, the staying power of Windows in the business world shows how much it's productivity is worth. The fact that most businesses choose to staff their workers with PCs must be puzzling to people like you, right?

Generally speaking, most companies are making decisions about their IT infrastructure with just worker "productivity" in mind. There's a whole host of other thoughts that go into the decision, including the raw inertia that Windows has maintained since the late-80s. Add to this IT department fretting about interoperability, training issues, and just an outright prejudice against other platforms, plus the lack of some software on the Mac, and we end up in a situation wherein while the Mac may be superior for productivity, it's still not the choice that gets picked.

Of course, productivity is a fairly subjective term. I'm much more productive on a Mac because I find Windows difficult, strange, and sometimes just buggy while I can use the Mac with aplomb. However, there are others who find the GUI on either Windows or OSX just completely unbearable and still others who love Windows '98 and will never upgrade (not to mention those OS9 hold-outs).

*I'm* productive on OSX and I find Windows Vista too horrible to contemplate, much less actually use, but I'm not blind to the fact that some people really do like Windows.

Also, that 95% of people like "X" is no measure of quality, its sometimes simple ubiquity.
 
for the strangest reason that reminds me of that apple ad from the 80's about the delivery person who throws an ax or something at the screen.

Just like that didnt make much, if any ,sense at all

Are you referring to the original Microsoft ad (as pictured) or my version of making fun of that ad?
 
MS Ads

MS (Microsh..) has completely lost the plot. Not only are they failing to innovate as a company they're failing to create a decent ad. The Seinfeld ads are so bad that Jerry must be having an almighty giggle in front of his shiny Mac (I'm reliably informed that ol Jerry is a Mac user) at the few mil he got for around 2 hours of wok. Nice if you can get it.

Desperate is a word coming to mind. This is a company that is now clearly out of step and out of touch with the computer buying public. Bill's gone, long live the King. Usually when the king leaves bad sh.. happens. There's no passion at Redmond at all. They'll continue to appear on dull boxes trying to be stylish, but the public does not want to buy an imitator. Consumers want the genuine article. Although still having a mammoth market share thats being chipped away. Redmond does not know how to respond. It makes considering a PC purchase almost a repulsive thought! Redmond stop trying to be hip, everyone knows that being grey, dull an completely colourless is your forte. As for those ad stats well I don't believe that for a moment. Who you kidding 63% positive. How do you explain all the Macs I see at Starbucks, Airports and even train journeys.
 
Generally speaking, most companies are making decisions about their IT infrastructure with just worker "productivity" in mind. There's a whole host of other thoughts that go into the decision, including the raw inertia that Windows has maintained since the late-80s. Add to this IT department fretting about interoperability, training issues, and just an outright prejudice against other platforms, plus the lack of some software on the Mac, and we end up in a situation wherein while the Mac may be superior for productivity, it's still not the choice that gets picked.

Of course, productivity is a fairly subjective term. I'm much more productive on a Mac because I find Windows difficult, strange, and sometimes just buggy while I can use the Mac with aplomb. However, there are others who find the GUI on either Windows or OSX just completely unbearable and still others who love Windows '98 and will never upgrade (not to mention those OS9 hold-outs).

*I'm* productive on OSX and I find Windows Vista too horrible to contemplate, much less actually use, but I'm not blind to the fact that some people really do like Windows.

Also, that 95% of people like "X" is no measure of quality, its sometimes simple ubiquity.

Dude, I'm completely with you. We've got Windows based PC's in my work place. They're awful. There are regular system crashes and as for productivity well thats pretty much zilch. I'm considerably more poductive on my Mac. I spend more of my time on my Mac Book writing up detailed policies/processes for my department complete with flow diagrams/charts. In fact 3 months ago I re-organised one of our booking policies from the ground up. My work machine would not display my flow diagram correctly (created in MS Word) later I used MS visio (very poor looking doc). I didn't get half way and bang, system stalls then crashes.

IT departments don't select Windows based systems because they like them,it's more a case of what will run all the apps specific to that business. Go to PC (Pile of Cr....) and the only choice you'll get is a Windows based system. The market place is overwhelmingly biased. I went to 5 PC world stores telling them I had £1200.00 to spend on a really good laptop. I gave detailed specifics, design, etc. Guess what I was offered and Acer and then a HP lap top. No one showed me a MAC.
 
Generally speaking, most companies are making decisions about their IT infrastructure with just worker "productivity" in mind. There's a whole host of other thoughts that go into the decision, including the raw inertia that Windows has maintained since the late-80s. Add to this IT department fretting about interoperability, training issues, and just an outright prejudice against other platforms, plus the lack of some software on the Mac, and we end up in a situation wherein while the Mac may be superior for productivity, it's still not the choice that gets picked.
I get what your saying. I'm just saying that if Windows was really as horrible as some people (DMANN) like to make it out to be (daily/hourly crashes, common BSOD, no compatibility, etc) and OS X was as impeccable as people pretend it is, we surely wouldn't see such a large number of companies (and people) still using Windows as their preferred platform.

Of course, productivity is a fairly subjective term. I'm much more productive on a Mac because I find Windows difficult, strange, and sometimes just buggy while I can use the Mac with aplomb. However, there are others who find the GUI on either Windows or OSX just completely unbearable and still others who love Windows '98 and will never upgrade (not to mention those OS9 hold-outs).
I completely understand. Different needs for different people. DMann, just seems convinced most (80%) people using Windows are somehow "stuck", and aren't physically able to pick Mac OS X

*I'm* productive on OSX and I find Windows Vista too horrible to contemplate, much less actually use, but I'm not blind to the fact that some people really do like Windows.
That's too bad, Vista isn't half bad. :D

Also, that 95% of people like "X" is no measure of quality, its sometimes simple ubiquity.
Not a direct measure, no, but it does say something. Those people continuing to purchase PCs (for whatever reason) are familiar with the platform, and it obviously suits their needs (for 1 reason, or another). That means its good enough (quality wise) to keep people from running for alternatives.:D Its just plain illogical to assume 80% of them are somehow choosing against their will.
 
Apple is ruining it's image with "funny" commercials that just try hard to insult Windows, but in reality, just makes Macs look like a joke.

It needs to be classier like that manila envelope mac air commercial, not a "I'm a mac and i'm skinny and young, while PC users are fat and old and uglier."

really who believes this shyt
 
Now that is actually a decent ad. It's well laid out and the imagery is effective. The text is a little boring, but it's a major step up from the Seinfeld and more what you would expect from an ad campaign of this magnitude.

It doesn't really make sense though, after all you need walls for windows and it says 'a world without walls'
 
The new "I'm a PC" ads are pretty nice. I think it's amusing how a Mac Forum is all hating on the PC ads but that's expected. If Apple ran this campaign everyone would be loving them and downloading them to their iPhones.
 
It doesn't really make sense though, after all you need walls for windows and it says 'a world without walls'
Well no one ever said that Windows itself makes sense ;) and for that matter most advertising doesn't stand up to logic. I was just commenting that it is a visually effective ad that makes a statement and gets it's point across in a direct fashion. But yeah, you do have a point. A world without walls is, well a world where you don't need Windows. ;) Leave it to Microsoft to advertise that their product is so good you won't even need it. lol
 
The Jerry series would have worked if commercials could be 4.5min long. Imagine how annoying those I'm a mac ads would be if they lasted more than 30 seconds. garbage
 
just aired

just saw the new windows ad during 'the office'....another long commercial and repetative....but nonetheless new.
 
The new "I'm a PC" ads are pretty nice. I think it's amusing how a Mac Forum is all hating on the PC ads but that's expected. If Apple ran this campaign everyone would be loving them and downloading them to their iPhones.

I don't think so. Peeps on this forum trash Apple for the color choices available on a nano, and trash other members for calling an iPod Touch an "iTouch". Had those Seinfeld ads been part of an Apple campaign, the pages would have run into the thousands.

As it is, I'm glad they came from Microsoft. They serve as a perfect metaphor for the state of that company.
 
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