Microsoft Edge 89 Brings Vertical Tabs and New History View

[phr0z3n]

Of course. Cloud based systems are just tricky.
What world do you live in? You realized the basic situation years ago, at the latest, when you heard about Snowden. Skype, Microsoft etc...
Of course, the debate has shifted somewhat in the meantime, but from where is the world supposed to have become whole and safe and paradisiacal again?

OK... so the version of Office in the Mac App Store has security issues... and yet you claimed they won't put their browser on the App Store because of....

Can you explain to me why Microsoft avoids putting its browsers on the Apple App Store for download?
Are they afraid of Apple's in-depth security review?

I guess I just don't understand... so the version of Office on the MAS passed Apple's in-depth security test?

 

[GhostRaider]

I used to use Firefox as my alternative browser but have since used Microsoft Edge as my primary browser. It's pretty fast actually. No real reason to use Chrome as Chrome suffers from memory and battery usage.

 

[trip1ex]

Aren't most Apple laptops 16:10?

does that change the pt? No. EVeryone has a widescreen monitor these days. Same difference.

 

[name99]

Speaking of history... In Safari, why is history just a menu with an endless list of webpages, just like it was 20 years ago? Say you visited a website 2 weeks ago, there is just no easy way of finding it other than clicking through the menu one by one until you give up. How about thumbnails? How about search? How about organizing them by website?

You can sort of search history in Safari. On Mac command-Y to bring up history page, and it has a search field. On iOS, click the blue “book” icon at the top left of the page’s chrome, choose the clock icon (history) and again there is a search field.

But it’s not great and your larger point is correct. I want my browser (actually my OS) to take note of all the text I read on every page I visit, and allow me to search that text (with options to scope to a date range, a particular site, etc).
There was a company that offered this (as a third party service) via a plug-in, and I signed up, but they went bust after a few months so I never had a reason to really try it with a search I cared about.

Of course with current privacy hysteria I can’t see anyone launching something like this (as a third party, as a browser feature, or as any OS feature) for quite a few years. One more example of how hysteria ruins everything for most of us.

 

[name99]

Yep. I love it when the tab bar on someone's browser has so many tabs that you can't even read the first word. And they have to cycle through all of this to find the tab they want.

You can search by tab in Safari. It‘s not great but it’s usually good enough.
Open a window, start typing the site of interest in the search bar, and one of the options that will be displayed as you type will be open tabs that match. If you choose one if those, you’ll be switched to that tab.
There are also other ways to search for a tab, eg on iOS, if you look around in the UI or do a web search.

 

[jonnysods]

I was a hater of Edge, but I'm a bigger hater of Chrome so Edge is what I'm using as my sidekick.

 

[mariusfanu]

Is it just me or those vertical tabs take a lot of space and you basically don’t gain the top bar where the horizontal tabs used to be, it’s just an title bar, so you have the title in two places. Curios if it helps if you have an ultra wide monitor 🤔

 

[Shirasaki]

Don't worry. When Apple imposes tougher security criteria, all browsers will show up in Apple's App Store for macOS as well. After all, this has already happened for iOS (Firefox, Chrome etc)...

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The browser distributors are not doing this voluntarily, because it takes away "freedoms" that are certainly not in your or mine personal interest.

Another topic:
In general, more browsers are rather a disadvantage for all of us:
Because every browser will develop its own html-dialect in order to generate unique selling points.
This means that in the future, more and more browsers will be needed to open certain pages.
Apple never wanted that. It has relied on transparent html6 (html7 starting this year) and just installed tracking barriers. Good for us.
Nowadays many websites already just serve browsers that have e.g. no barriers for tracking/advertising.
Besides, site creators will have to proove more and more different browsers, which will eventually become uneconomical and you will always have broken performance when "free" surfing, no matter which browser you use...

Edge will of course (deservedly) be one of the hopefully few surviving browsers.

Isn’t that multiple browsers are already required to open most webpages nowadays, including the dreaded Internet Explorer for lots of older sites that never got updated? Unless Apple can somehow magically dominate the desktop platform with 70% market share, or somehow dominate the mobile platform with 80% market share, safari would not really get any traction due to it being unavailable on any other platforms. I still can see a lot of websites that just dont work well on safari but works great on Chromium/Firefox.

Maybe given some time situation would improve, but no tracking or advertising barrier at all? I hardly can see it ever happen, simply because customer data is as valuable as irl gold. Safari has no such thing because associated costs are likely covered with hefty hardware price tag. Others dont have such leisure, so they need to get money somewhere. It’s a tough situation to balance imo.

Feels like its going off topic too much so I will stop here.

 

[SFjohn]

Seems like a nice feature for Apple to copy and hopefully add as an option to Safari.

 

[-BigMac-]

I think "New Tab" is an actual tab, showing the New Tab page, it's not a label for another tab.

Yes I understand, I think having the "name" of the tab on top is half the problem. Have the name inside the address bar, like Safari. Saves all that unused space above the address bar

 

[arhytcipt]

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used RAM for the basic application
Of course, this is the lower range. Of course, it depends on the overall load, e.g. if you load many tabs at the same time.

Just like recently article by a guy selling flotato, this claim is wrong. You forget to count on RAM use by every tabs and other utility processes. Bellow is pic in my mac. I don't install any extension.

 

[Lozza013]

I’ve used Edge and it’s actually quite good although Firefox is my main driver.

 

[steve333]

A lot of it is subjective I'm sure, however for me it's just a faster, lighter version of Chrome that also works on my work machines - so tab syncing and all that stuff. Everything just seems to work on it - something that I can't say of Safari <- I'm sure now people will tell me everything works on Safari. If that's your experience, good for you! Then carry on. Like I say, I'm sure a lot of it is subjective. A lot of my work stuff doesn't, nor does some of my Uni portal.

I get it on my two phones (an iPhone and a Note 20 Ultra) - it's just the same experience on all. Sync's with my Office365 account, although I imagine you can use a 'normal' Microsoft account.

I tried it out of curiosity really, and now it's ended up being my goto browser for pretty much everything.

I used to like Safari but I used Firefox as a back up since some sites don't work well with Safari and sometimes Safari had issues with sites.
After Big Sur Safari got worse, a spinning beach ball 1/2 the time when clicking on the bookmarks menu and some sites just hanging.
Apple is wealthy enough and talented enough that this shouldn't be an issue. Pisses me off

 

[boss.king]

Didn't know Microsoft had a browser for the Mac... I use Safari or Chrome. Not familiar with Edge. Any good?

It’s great. I regularly change browsers and test out new ones, and I feel like Microsoft currently makes the best browser for MacOS right now. All the features of Chrome with resources usage not that much higher than Safari.

 

[steve333]

I downloaded it but it has a very Microsoft feel to it, I find Safari easier to use but I will try Edge for a few days.
It loads pages that safari hangs on for a long time and seems to be much faster than safari.
Apple should just switch to the same Chrome engine that Edge uses and give us a native browser that works well across the board. Keep the Safari layout but make it work. I don't know why Apple lets Safari lag like this.

 

[08380728]

I can only assume you're putting this through a terrible translator as a lot of your messages make no sense.

lol it seems to be you that’s unable to translate...
no issues here understanding the messages moo moo land

 

[08380728]

Vertical tab bar isn't resizable?
Favourites eh (Bookmarks they mean?)
It imported Safari Bookmarks into a sub menu of the Favourites menu called Other Favourites
Select Manage Favourites will display a hovering panel, ok not useful can't select any.
Pin the panel still can't select any favourites.

Want to select all the Favourites in the Other Favourites folder and put them in the main menu, but cannot select even one.

eh, too hard, Move to Trash...

M$ cookin up yer brain

 

[BuffaloTF]

How do they prevent tracking? That would be welcome news. With Safari it is well known in detail and has been very torn in the advertising market. I haven't heard that about Edge yet.

They've stripped out all of Google services. And you can set the Tracker to Strict -- which blocks most trackers and you shouldn't see personalized ads. It isn't Safari level prevention, but it's approaching it.

 

[Abbsta]

Vertical tab bar isn't resizable?
Favourites eh (Bookmarks they mean?)
It imported Safari Bookmarks into a sub menu of the Favourites menu called Other Favourites
Select Manage Favourites will display a hovering panel, ok not useful can't select any.
Pin the panel still can't select any favourites.

Want to select all the Favourites in the Other Favourites folder and put them in the main menu, but cannot select even one.

eh, too hard, Move to Trash...

M$ cookin up yer brain

It is possible. I just re-arranged mine.

 

[RogueWarrior65]

I seriously thought the tabs would be... vertical. No, they're just stacked on the side of the window. Feh.

 

[cupcakes2000]

The best. Faster than Chrome, better memory management, none of the tracking.

 

[lixuelai]

Just tried the vertical tabs and I kinda like it, I have a 34inch ultrawide. It is more apparent what the tabs are.

I only use Safari for the iMessage integration.

 

[arhytcipt]

@cupcakes2000: Any app allow sync data will have that. Include safari, but since safari not on appstore, you won't see that label.

 

[MBAir2010]

I seriously thought the tabs would be... vertical. No, they're just stacked on the side of the window. Feh.

i thought the same until i clicked on a left icon and the tab "verticaled" on the left, like 2001!
also, i never liked ctrl H for history, but i never use edge, windows, dell so there is no history...

 

[shapesinaframe]

@cupcakes2000: Any app allow sync data will have that. Include safari, but since safari not on appstore, you won't see that label.

And therein lies the rub. Safari is not being held to the same standard as the other browsers. I’d like to see Safari listed in the App Store, most of the other default iOS apps are.