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As a user of all (except opera that I hate so much), I say no, it doesn't. 🙂
Just as much matters as imdb ratings.
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Microsoft Edge Overtakes Safari as World's Second Most Popular Desktop Browser
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Just as much matters as imdb ratings.
I don't find it has a particulalrly bad memory profile. 1.78 GB at this moment - quite a bit but I've got 16GB and plenty free. But I do see excessive processor use by FirefoxCP Isolated Web Content all too often. (Whatever that actually is.) I think The Guardian's website is a particular problem. Even then, I can go days without it being a problem - just ramps up from time to time.
You sound like someone who uses multiple browsers when you could just use one. Beside monoculture is all around, do you use Unix/Linux because you refuse to use Windows or MacOS even though there are tons of work arounds required and compatibility issues with the most basic things?
Kaikidan
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I Use Brave, works nice but leaks memory if you don't shutdown the computer from time to time (24/7 like me) or close the browser periodically, when you see it's using 3-4gb of ram for 5-6 tabs.
Well I know a lot of people that are at least in 2 eco systems with one of their devices.
So the use of other browsers makes sense a lot
In a way those are just safari but with another UI and sync service to make things more accessible.
Apple has their iCloud bookmark sync to other platforms but as usual with Apple software this is a very shoddy experience compared to the competition.
So the use of other browsers makes sense a lot
In a way those are just safari but with another UI and sync service to make things more accessible.
Apple has their iCloud bookmark sync to other platforms but as usual with Apple software this is a very shoddy experience compared to the competition.
TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️
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Wow! I’m surprised MS Edge has taken over. Hopefully, Safari browser can bounce back to the top.
Leon Ze Professional
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Sorry everyone, but I could not resist this pun: "it sounds like Microsoft is still on EDGE!" Lame I know!
Mr. Dee
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I don't see Apple aggressively marketing against other desktop browsers and imposing popus on users that try switching. Microsoft literally adds a popup to Edge whenever you try downloading another browser that attempts to persuade users that Edge is enough. They even add "with the trust of Microsoft". On the Bing search page when you search for another browser it interupts you to claim that you don't need another browser and makes claims that Edge can save you time and money.
Safari is not forced in that same sense. You can freely pick and macOS doesn't tell you to not download other browsers.
EDIT: Can we just pause and think about how Edge observes the URLs / contents of the pages you are going to and pushes popups for Microsoft products and advertises Microsoft "trust"?
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boss.king
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On iOS, Safari is all you get. Chrome, Edge, Firefox; it’s all Safari with with a different wrapper.
Slo Pesci
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Edge browser on Windows is actually pretty good these days.
contacos
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The only reason I still use a different browser on my work computer is simply due to the fact that Safari still does not allow profiles 🫤😓
On chrome I have a profile for
Work
Private
Guest
It’s very convenient to keep everything separate
On chrome I have a profile for
Work
Private
Guest
It’s very convenient to keep everything separate
It may not matter to typical users but it can matter to Apple as they make many billions in easy money by having Google as the default search. If Safari's usage were to notably drop off (it's been holding fairly steady), any future search deals with Google may not be as lucrative.
arvinsim
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That's why I specifically referred to Desktop browsers. Also it's not "Safari" it's the WebKit engine that Google themselves used to work on and is open source. A lot more expressive than just a wrapper with the power of JavaScript injection 🙂
I switched to Edge on my work computer when they moved from IE to Chrome. Chrome was a super memory hog and caused lots of issues. I also have Edge on my personal Mac & use it as a backup when Safari doens't work correctly (something that seems to be happening more & more these days). Safari is still my go-to for home use, but it's nice to have a backup that is pretty universally accepted, but isn't Google.
I just tried to redeem a Sprint deal for a free year of Apple TV yesterday. The offer kept erroring out on Safari, despite following all of the rules. I then tried redeeming it in Edge & it worked first try.
I just tried to redeem a Sprint deal for a free year of Apple TV yesterday. The offer kept erroring out on Safari, despite following all of the rules. I then tried redeeming it in Edge & it worked first try.
StudioMacs
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It matters to web developers because some browsers support standards better than others.
Going back to the dark ages when Internet Explorer was ubiquitous, web standards were whatever IE supported, and it might be impossible for you to do something like online banking if you used another browser.
Some developers would like to see Safari quicker to support newer standards, so the more competition there is from other browsers, the more likely Apple will be to support functionality instead of trying to make the UI look cool (hopefully).
It's not good for the industry to have a single engine running on a majority of browsers. That said, Apple isn't doing itself any favors dragging its feet on supporting modern web features in WebKit. They risk making Safari the new Internet Explorer. Eventually developers will just give up on it and either force people to use a Chromium-based browser or will severely limit the functionality of their page when running on Safari.
StevieD100
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I can only go on the stats from my website as reported by Statcounter.
Edge is nowhere. IE11.0 comes in at 1.68%
Personally, I won't use Chrome or Edge. I might use chromium as long as I know that all the Google spyware has been removed otherwise, it is Firefox and Safari.
Edge is nowhere. IE11.0 comes in at 1.68%
Personally, I won't use Chrome or Edge. I might use chromium as long as I know that all the Google spyware has been removed otherwise, it is Firefox and Safari.
| Puffin 9.7 | 21.58% | |
| Firefox 99.0 | 17.33% | |
| Chrome 100.0 | 11.25% | |
| Safari 15.4 | 10.64% | |
| iPhone | 5.78% | |
| Samsung Internet 16.2 | 5.47% | |
| Opera 85.0 | 4.56% |
StudioMacs
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I think a lot depends on the region and demographics. I find that Safari (mobile and desktop combined) are usually the top performers on upscale consumer product and service websites in the US. Edge has been showing up a lot more often on B2B websites.
Surprised to see this. I prefer using Safari or sometimes Chrome.
You got downvoted, but you're right. Just try having a decent adblock plus without paying...
And to all the people complaining about browsers being forced upon users: in iOS you are 100% forced to Safari (Mobile), even Chrome uses the same renderer on iOS.
cocky jeremy
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How is Chrome ahead of any of the other 3?! Do people somehow not see how terrible it is?