Microsoft Edge Overtakes Safari as World's Second Most Popular Desktop Browser

sracer said:
If you don't want to use Edge, that's fine, but you gave popups as the reason... which actually isn't a reason when they can be disabled.
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Well it was a reason because 1. I didn't know they could be disabled and 2. I don't really trust software when the developer does **** like that.
 
foobarbaz said:
My favorite browser: Anything but Chromium

Having lived through one, I'm not going to contribute to another web monoculture …
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See lots of comments like this... but the web is being designed with Chromium in mind. I find the experience of non-chromium browsers lacking. What do you find about non-chromium browsers that is functionally better?
 
PsykX said:
Chrome steals your data to improve audience targeting in Google Ads, just like any Google product in existence. I would stay away from that.
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Chrome does not "steal" anything as the user agrees, via the privacy policy and terms of service, to allow Google to use the data. The user is also getting "paid" by being able to use Google products/services for free or at a discounted price.

Whether or not it's worth it is up to the user.
 
TheMacDaddy1 said:
Safari is forced on users of Apple devices.
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I’ve never seen Safari constantly popping up every time you turn on your Mac asking you to use it. I’ve never seen Macs give you pop up ads for Safari from the Dock. I’ve never seen Safari’s first-open screen always take control of the whole screen so you can’t close it. I’ve never seen Spotlight route your searches to Safari even if you’ve set a different browser as default.

These are all ways Microsoft has forced Edge upon Windows users. You’d have to be an outright moron to think any of this is comparable to Apple just setting Safari as default out of the box.
 
Mr. Dee said:
LOL! Will keep Firefox then.
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I've seen some websites (forums.macrumors.com, I'm looking at you) will continuously grow memory allocation in FF, Safari, and Chrome. After a while, these sites get to 1GB or more of RAM. Not sure what they are doing to cause this but it's not been browser specific.
 
Does Edge restore your tab sessions reliably?

I've had too many cases where Chrome wakes up empty having forgotten all the tabs I had open. FF and Safari have been rock solid in that regard.
 
If Apple didn't tie Safari to specific macOS versions, it would reduce the number of people who switch to get a more modern browser without upgrading their OS version.
 
cocky jeremy said:
How is Chrome ahead of any of the other 3?! Do people somehow not see how terrible it is?
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The problem is that most people in the world now see Chrome not as a window to the internet, but as the internet. To their minds, they’re inseparable. Especially in emerging markets where Chrome started getting market share in its early days. Examples I can think of:

  • Where I live, every time someone asks me to open a web page they tell me “open Chrome” (or even worse, “open Google” - they don’t even know the name of the browser), when about 10-12 years ago people would’ve said “open your browser”.
  • One time when I was at school (I graduated high school a couple years ago, just for context) a classmate asked me if they could borrow my laptop and I let him; 5 minutes later he comes to me and asks me “where’s Chrome?” I tell him I don’t use it and point to Safari on my Dock. He genuinely, in no way sarcastically, answers: “how do you use the internet then?” He wasn’t dumb either, he was broadly tech savvy. It’s just that to him, the idea of people not using Chrome was so foreign that his brain didn’t even consider that some people don’t prefer it and immediately landed in the conclusion “diskrisk doesn’t have any way to use the internet installed”.

People don’t see how terrible Chrome is because in their minds they don’t have much to compare it to. That’s all they’ve used.
 
While Safari is only on Apple devices, Edge is available everywhere. Even Linux, I believe.
I stopped using Opera recently. It kept giving me troubles.
I’m talking iPad and Android. I rarely use my Windows PC.
Only Safari has ad blocking. The Internet sucks without ad blocking.
I’ve installed the DuckDuckGo browser on my iPad and Android tablet.
I also rarely use my Android tablet.
Everything is a little different with iPad. After about 5 months, I’m finally getting iPad OS.
A very cool thing is the DDG browser can import and export bookmarks.
We need mobile browsers that are just like their desktop counterparts.
Just learned how to add a bookmark to Firefox and Chrome for iPad OS.
Was more straight forward with Android.
Tried to sync my bookmarks from Safari on iPad. iCloud made a mess out of my desktop bookmarks.
DDG does not sync bookmarks. Firefox and Chrome do.
Opera does too, but I’m not going back.
I use my Windows PC sometimes and want my bookmarks.
The Chrome browser on Chrome OS is a real desktop browser.
That’s big.
 
As much as I don’t like MSFT anymore, let me tell you why this is a good thing: I can assure you 95%+ of Edge users are on Windows. Most Mac users use Safari and Chrome, and Linux users still don’t trust MSFT for anything. The only thing this is doing is taking market share away from Chrome. Would’ve loved for Firefox to do that but hey, I guess the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Just this once.
 
SactoGuy18 said:
The first version of Edge, based on Microsoft's own web layout engine, was not really that great.
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No, it wasn't not great. It was absolutely appalling. Lasted maybe a year and I didn't find anyone who liked it. Some even preferred Internet Explorer...
 
Tagbert said:
Apple isn't remotely as aggressive about pushing Safari as MS is about Edge.
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No need!!. Passively aggressivemy pushing it, as it is pre installed in all our Apple devices!.
How about not pre installing it and people using the app store to download the browser they choose?.
 
To me there is no difference between Chrome, Edge, or Safari. I use Safari on my Mac, I use Chrome on my Windows. The only reason I don't use Edge is because I dislike Microsoft pushing it so hard on me. I refuse to use Edge out of protest of Microsoft's tactics.
 
Does anyone know how many people using iOS use safari and how many use chrome? I'd love to know if chrome is also the number one browser on iOS :eek:
 
I’m guessing it’s because most workplaces require it. I work at a major corporation and it’s required due to “security purposes.”
 
1-Whats the appeal that makes people use Edge?

2-Who is in their right mind that still uses Chrome spyware?

3-Brave is a much better choice since its open source and does not spy on their users

4-I use Firefox, I really do not understand why people like to hate on it? It does everything and fast. Overall its the best choice since:
  • Open Source
  • Not re-skinned Chrome
  • 3rd option for rendering engine (other 2 are webkit/Safari and blink/chrome)
  • multi-platform
  • has all the extensions

5-Multiple browsers is a good thing for competition and the internet and we should keep the current 3 rendering engines alive (gecko, webkit, Blink) or we will have another IE situation like early 2000s. Do not let 1 entity control the internet.
 
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