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Microsoft Gives Early Look at Windows 10 Featuring Windows 7 Elements, Broad Adaptability

Applefan 2013 said:
Oooohhhhh big whoop. And it won't be available for those who even want it for over a year? No thanks, by then we'll have OX 10.11 Weed or whatever :rolleyes:
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I didn't even think about it till you pointed out... just wow. Apple will probably release 2 to the public in the time it took from announcement to shipment for a windows os.
 
Windows 1
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Windows 95
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Windows NT
Windows ME
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Windows RT

Windows 14. Sounds good
 
McCool71 said:
Of course they do - just like Apple have done for years and years when launching new major versions of OS X. You are aware that 'free OS upgrades' is quite new when it comes to Apple?!? I have been using Macs at work since the late 90's (OS 8) and have spent a lot of money upgrading the OS on them through the years.

Apple can take a different route since they also make a lot of money from the hardware; the payment for further development and 'free upgrades' of OS X is in reality baked into the price of the hardware you need to run it.

Anyone who uses that as a main argument for using one OS over the other is way off though - in the large scale of things we are not talking about a huge amount of money. All PC's with Win 7 sold the last 8-12 months before Win 8 was launched got free upgrades, everyone else could upgrade for 40 bucks for a long time after the launch. This is more like the cost of a couple of lunches every 2-3 years (if you want - remember Microsoft supported Windows XP with free upgrades for 12 years after launch) than anything that would break the bank.
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Quite new? It's been years now. And that's still better than Microsoft (no free upgrades at all).

Microsoft "supporting" XP was just fixing bugs and patching security holes—things that are expected. That's NOT an OS upgrade. That's like saying your car warranty is the same as getting new features every year (it's not—they're just fixing stuff).

And then you justify spending money for upgrades by saying it isn't much and quoting a limited-time offer price. Free is still cheaper so I'm not sure what your argument is.

As for the cost of hardware...Macs hold their value way, way, way better than PCs (just look at used computers on Ebay and actual sale prices). The cost of ownership with Mac is the same or cheaper than a comparable PC.

All this and you get a much nicer computer with a much better OS.

You need to look at the big picture.
 
RoastingPig said:
So forget windows X ever happened and then copy a bunch of stuff from osx? :p
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Here you go, now you can use this every year. ;)

Note, I have no problem with tech companies copying each other to some extent, but Microsoft's copying of OS X every year... They take good features, but most of the time they somehow manage to make them so bad you can't use them.
 
He almost played "The Penguin!"

I think this turkey auditioned for the role of "The Penguin" on Gotham, but his brother won the part instead....
 

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scottwaugh said:
One of the really cool features, left out of the list is the application named Asimov, it allows Microsoft to monitor users in near real time…came from the Xbox One...to help Microsoft figure out what user's need from the new OS (which won't arrive till the end of 2015).

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-9-to-Come-with-Real-Time-Telemetry-System-Codenamed-Asimov-460430.shtml

With Microsoft's history of actively working with the NSA:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data

I'm sure the NSA is looking forward to Windows 10 as well.

Now, who wants a copy? /s
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So you blindly believe Apple doesn't handover data and doesn't have a backdoor? You even blindly trust them?

*facepalm*
 
Something about the way Windows renders its UI elements always seems a bit... rough. I know this is a tech preview, but even the completed past versions looked unrefined.
 
Dan70 said:
Am I the only one who gets the joke?

Nein in German means no. So Windows Nein/Windows No... it's word play but quite funny I think.
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True, BUT the German word for "nine" is NOT "nein", it's "neun". So there are no negative connotations in German for "Windows neun"
 
Actually I like the fact that you can run the App on the tablet, phone and your computer. Apple does not support (yet) running iOS apps on OSX
 
Everything about me is Apple... Iphone, ipad, and iPod. But my computer, it's a Toshiba running windows. I guess I'll get a Mac next
 
hlfway2anywhere said:
You can...
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Except that you weren't able to until 10.9. Basically, Apple released a half-assed approach to full-screen apps in 10.7, botched up multi-monitor support...and yet there are fanboys in this thread quick to make fun of MS's attempt a full-screen apps as well.
 
alirz said:
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And how come mac users dont realize that mac OSX is based on, takes ideas from linux.. im not bashing anything, just saying.
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Mac OS is a certified Unix operating system which has its roots in Berkeley Software Developement Unix and Steve Jobs' NextOS.

Linux is a rip off from Unix.

just sayin'
 
Moto G said:
No, it's based on - and has at its' core - BSD.
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BSD originated as a licensed fork of AT&T Unix,
but by its last release, it got rid of all proprietary AT&T code. AT&T sued BSD and pretty much drove it out of business. When BSD was finally exonerated in 1994, only one commercial release of BSD followed.

Linux is not an operating system. Linux is a kernel. The modern Linux distros, such as Debian, Red Hat, etc. are not "Linux" OS; rather, they are "GNU with Linux" because most non-kernel utilities are from the GNU project, with Linux being the OS kernel.

Richard Stallman started the GNU project in the 1980s whereby he re-wrote all the Unix utities, sometimes renaming them (similar to what BSD ended up doing to get rid of expensive AT&T licensing terms). For example, in GNU, the utility analogous to UNIX "more" is called "less" because "Less is More". Richard Stallman also pioneered the term "copyleft" to counter the legal term "copyright". The first kernel he used with GNU in 1990 was Mach. Linux (kernel) was released in 1991, and it used GNU for OS utilities.

When Steve Jobs was shopping around for a new OS in the mid-to-late 1980s, he needed a new kernel for BSD, and he chose Mach as the kernel. His first NeXTSTEP OS release based on BSD with Mach kernel was in 1989.

In reality, BSD utilities are very similar to GNU utilities, and the real difference between the two OSes is the kernels - Mach vs Linux. Therefore, OS X (based on NeXTSTEP), on one hand, and GNU with Linux, on the other hand, are close cousins. In fact, if GNU continued to use Mach as the kernel, OS X and GNU would be siblings.
 
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