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Like what? Apple did not advertise their iPad in such a way. The closest you can argue are the past I'm a PC and I'm a Mac ads. And even those were degrees more truthful in presentation than this. And even so, those ads have stopped airing years ago.

Here. I used the Google function for you, so you didn't have to spend the effort:

http://m.pocketnow.com/2012/09/11/false-advertising-apple-vs-nokia

http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=16573699

There's more, but I think you get the gist.
 
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And how is this in any way relevant? What printer was it? ... It's a royal pain the butt to install wireless printers on Windows as many printer manufacturers had a very confusing and tricky process to get the wireless stuff set up. AirPrint? Much easier.

You seem to think that AirPrint is better than no printer, and any non-AirPrint compliant printer is outdated. It is a cannon MP-something, and it works just fine with whatever default settings Windows and OS X came up with. But whenever you try to print from an iPad it doesn't work.

I'd rather buy a tablet that works with my printer, rather than buy a tablet that forces me to buy a new printer too.
 
I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet but maybe they can say this because the touch-sensitive part is bigger than the actual screen and thus probably bigger than the iPad's touchscreen. Because the MS tablets have edge swipes so their touch-sensitive area extends beyond the screen.

Still misleading in my opinion but I think this may be behind their statement.
 
Here. I used the Google function for you, so you didn't have to spend the effort:

http://m.pocketnow.com/2012/09/11/false-advertising-apple-vs-nokia

http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=16573699

There's more, but I think you get the gist.

That's it? Some stuff about iPad 4G? It did indeed have a 4G radio that did work in many parts of the world that's not US. iPhone 3G (or S?) speed? Of course speed of certain apps depend on the network. Some apps require Internet connectivity and a slow connection is not really Apple's fault. There is no claim by Apple that it actually runs that fast regardless. In fact, there is usually a small disclaimer to such an effect, something like "user performance depends on network". Siri works differently for everyone. It's AI, not just A. It adjusts to your voice patterns and such.

Also, Apple directly addressed any of those criticisms by including common sense disclaimers like certain things will sped up for sake of a shorter commercial, network conditions may vary, etc.

The example of Nokia using some other device to record video and pass off as something from a Lumia is blatantly lying. Apple does not do that. If there are any variations that affect real world usage, they usually add some disclaimer. Which is something I don't see in that Microsoft add. Next example you bring up could possibly be a lawsuit involving a plaintiff who bought hot coffee, spilled it on themselves and sued the place they bought the coffee from since no one said it might burn them. Seriously.

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You seem to think that AirPrint is better than no printer, and any non-AirPrint compliant printer is outdated. It is a cannon MP-something, and it works just fine with whatever default settings Windows and OS X came up with. But whenever you try to print from an iPad it doesn't work.

I'd rather buy a tablet that works with my printer, rather than buy a tablet that forces me to buy a new printer too.

Not at all. Those were just examples. My wireless printer is not AirPrint enabled. I don't think it's outdated. Yet there was a very nice (and free) app that allowed me to print to it. I'm pretty sure not all wireless printers work on Windows 8, as I have one myself which I bought just last year. It works intermittently through USB. Next thing you say, you will buy a computer that has a PS/2 connector for your existing keyboard/mouse instead of using something USB...
 
That's it? Some stuff about iPad 4G? It did indeed have a 4G radio that did work in many parts of the world that's not US. iPhone 3G (or S?) speed? Of course speed of certain apps depend on the network. Some apps require Internet connectivity and a slow connection is not really Apple's fault. There is no claim by Apple that it actually runs that fast regardless. In fact, there is usually a small disclaimer to such an effect, something like "user performance depends on network". Siri works differently for everyone. It's AI, not just A. It adjusts to your voice patterns and such.

Also, Apple directly addressed any of those criticisms by including common sense disclaimers like certain things will sped up for sake of a shorter commercial, network conditions may vary, etc.

The example of Nokia using some other device to record video and pass off as something from a Lumia is blatantly lying. Apple does not do that. If there are any variations that affect real world usage, they usually add some disclaimer. Which is something I don't see in that Microsoft add.



All now irrelevant. The ad has been updated and fixed. Call it a glitch. We all know Apple has had "glitches" before as well.
 
Of course it should be pointed out that apple has never doctored marketing images, and that they came up with the power-cord-less imac last year.

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That's it? Some stuff about iPad 4G? It did indeed have a 4G radio that did work in many parts of the world that's not US. iPhone 3G (or S?) speed? Of course speed of certain apps depend on the network. Some apps require Internet connectivity and a slow connection is not really Apple's fault. There is no claim by Apple that it actually runs that fast regardless. In fact, there is usually a small disclaimer to such an effect, something like "user performance depends on network". Siri works differently for everyone. It's AI, not just A. It adjusts to your voice patterns and such.

Also, Apple directly addressed any of those criticisms by including common sense disclaimers like certain things will sped up for sake of a shorter commercial, network conditions may vary, etc.

The example of Nokia using some other device to record video and pass off as something from a Lumia is blatantly lying. Apple does not do that. If there are any variations that affect real world usage, they usually add some disclaimer. Which is something I don't see in that Microsoft add. Next example you bring up could possibly be a lawsuit involving a plaintiff who bought hot coffee, spilled it on themselves and sued the place they bought the coffee from since no one said it might burn them. Seriously.

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Not at all. Those were just examples. My wireless printer is not AirPrint enabled. I don't think it's outdated. Yet there was a very nice (and free) app that allowed me to print to it. I'm pretty sure not all wireless printers work on Windows 8, as I have one myself which I bought just last year. It works intermittently through USB. Next thing you say, you will buy a computer that has a PS/2 connector for your existing keyboard/mouse instead of using something USB...

PS 2? Playstation 4 is just around the corner. :D:D
 
Of course it should be pointed out that apple has never doctored marketing images, and that they came up with the power-cord-less imac last year.

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And carefully photographed the iMac from an angle to insure that you didn't see it still had the bulge in the back.
 
Of course it should be pointed out that apple has never doctored marketing images, and that they came up with the power-cord-less imac last year.

It's just hidden behind the other elements. :p

In any case, cabling is expected by except the dumb dumbs. Screen size proportion is a visual cheat that's highly relevant in the purchase decision process.
 
Yeah, and those PC vs Mac commercials were SO accurate. :rolleyes: :) And I so agree with the post right above me.

There was absolutely zero lies in the Mac vs. PC ads. I challenge you to post one "truth" where Apple lied?

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See what happens when you use Windows 8? The calculator and Excel go mad because they don't know where the start menu buggered off too...

Who uses Windows 8? Oh, Microsoft employees...forgot. :)
 
Hey look. Another dumb, miniscule thing to get righteously indignant over in the never ending and always completely pointless "my stuff is better than your stuff" platform war.

KEEP ON KEEPIN' ON, YALL! \m/:mad:

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Who uses Windows 8? Oh, Microsoft employees...forgot. :)

Me. And I'm employed by Samsung. So there. You're wrong.
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Countdown to an angry reply because he took me seriously in 3...2...
 
I love how M$ gets caught blatently lying in their ad and there are still people here defending them
 
There was absolutely zero lies in the Mac vs. PC ads. I challenge you to post one "truth" where Apple lied?

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Who uses Windows 8? Oh, Microsoft employees...forgot. :)

Not an ad. But perhaps you remember the debacle around Google Voice getting rejected. Apple said they never rejected it:

http://www.wired.com/business/2009/...le-respond-to-feds-on-google-voice-rejection/

and yet...

http://wireless.fcc.gov/releases/9182009_Google_Filing_iPhone.pdf

says otherwise.

But again - all of this is irrelevant. And the mud slinging can stop because the ad HAS BEEN FIXED.

ETA: Oh - unless someone quotes me - I think this won't get seen by him. He has me on ignore.
 
Screen diagonal seems to be the usual measure for screen size, not square area. In that sense, the "bigger screen" statement is acceptable.

On the other hand the graphical comparison is misleading.
 
I love how M$ gets caught blatently lying in their ad and there are still people here defending them

Oh course, it's MR, the most diverse Apple enthusiasts site on the internet. So diverse that many people here don't even use Apple products and their lot in life is to stomp on them daily. ;)

The odd part of the whole thing with this ad is while it's very possible that it was not intentional, it's very possible that it was intentional to get people to talk and that's unfortunately what's going on here right now. Microsoft sadly wins because it helps them advertise, although the Surface sucks in sales and probably will continue to hopefully and Windows 8 just sucks.
 
Then please explain to me why Apple put effort into actually skewing the image and making sure the dimensions lined up perfectly if it was all completely irrelevant.

As I said before, they did it to illustrate the similarities of the design elements that were applicable to their claim.

And still, as people have pointed out, Microsofts ad was meant to highlight the features and specs, not the device's apparent size. If size was irrelevant in Apple's case (and therefore manipulation OK), why can't it be in Microsofts ad (and therefore manipulation OK)?

Because Microsoft specifically brought up an inaccurate size comparison. You'll notice that Microsoft has still scaled the images of the devices inconsistently in the updated ad, but its not a big deal because they footnote it and no longer make the inaccurate claim.

So now, all of a sudden, screen size is measured by the surface area even though it has always been measured by the diagonal before?

Screen size has always been measured in surface area. Diagonals are just a convenient references carried over from TVs where you had a standard aspect ratio.
 
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