Microsoft Inaccurately Depicts Windows Tablet as Larger than iPad in New Comparison Ad

[AppleScruff1]

Oh course, it's MR, the most diverse Apple enthusiasts site on the internet. So diverse that many people here don't even use Apple products and their lot in life is to stomp on them daily.

The odd part of the whole thing with this ad is while it's very possible that it was not intentional, it's very possible that it was intentional to get people to talk and that's unfortunately what's going on here right now. Microsoft sadly wins because it helps them advertise, although the Surface sucks in sales and probably will continue to hopefully and Windows 8 just sucks.

That will be great if the Surface and Windows fail, won't it?

 

[ChrisTX]

ASUS VivoTab Smart

Seriously the worst name for a product ever. You know how ridiculous you'd sound telling people what tablet you're using.

 

[Renzatic]

You mean Samsung pays you to post here?

...nope!

 

[td2243]

Really? Deceitful pictures? How dare they? LOL This happens all the time. Such as.....

 

[AppleScruff1]

Screen size has always been measured in surface area. Diagonals are just a convenient references carried over from TVs where you had a standard aspect ratio.

I disagree. Tv's are marketed by diagonal measurement as our laptops, cell phones, tablets, monitors, etc. Surface area is the true total size, but where do you ever see it mentioned in the above named products? I would venture to guess that the average Joe makes no consideration of aspect ratio when buying the above products.

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Seriously the worst name for a product ever. You know how ridiculous you'd sound telling people what tablet you're using.

Not something sophisticated like Lisa?

 

[samcraig]

As I said before, they did it to illustrate the similarities of the design elements that were applicable to their claim.

And you know this for certain because?

 

[Renzatic]

It's common advertising in general to make your product look the same size or bigger when compared against the competition (unless being smaller is the main focus, of course). It's basic psychology. You want your stuff to command attention. Making it look smaller in an ad could make it look "not as good".

Is it cheesy? Sure. Most ads are. But the MICROSOFT IS BLATANTLY LYING OMG OLOL SKY FALLING LOOK OUT THEY'RE GONNA EAT OUR BABIES NEXT posts are even worse.

 

[samcraig]

It's common advertising in general to make your product look the same size or bigger when compared against the competition (unless being smaller is the main focus, of course). It's basic psychology. You want your stuff to command attention. Making it look smaller in an ad could make it look "not as good".

Is it cheesy? Sure. Most ads are. But the MICROSOFT IS BLATANTLY LYING OMG OLOL SKY FALLING LOOK OUT THEY'RE GONNA EAT OUR BABIES NEXT posts are even worse.

Clearly MEN are to blame. Only MEN would try and make things look BIGGER than they actually are. While WOMEN would show things the right size or even smaller.

 

[BaldiMac]

I disagree. Tv's are marketed by diagonal measurement as our laptops, cell phones, tablets, monitors, etc. Surface area is the true total size, but where do you ever see it mentioned in the above named products? I would venture to guess that the average Joe makes no consideration of aspect ratio when buying the above products.

Agaiin, just because a number is used to reference a particular size does not mean it is the actual size. Diagonals correlate directly to screen size when aspect ratios are the same. However, it does not work when aspect ratios vary. We just keep using it out of tradition, even though it is no longer an accurate point of comparison across devices.

 

[genovelle]

Microsoft is claiming it's larger, which it is. Not that the diagram is to scale. Get over it.

I'd rather see this sort of advertising from everyone than retarded law suits that Apple is so keen on these days. Both Samsung and MS have ads poking fun of Apple, Apple responds with investing in their lawyers instead of their marketing.

You would rather companies lie and steal ip then poke fun at Apple and have Apple not respond. If Apple did respond in kind you would say they are petty. What an Apple hater you are.

 

[BaldiMac]

And you know this for certain because?

Because that was the point of the case?

 

[AppleScruff1]

Agaiin, just because a number is used to reference a particular size does not mean it is the actual size. Diagonals correlate directly to screen size when aspect ratios are the same. However, it does not work when aspect ratios vary. We just keep using it out of tradition, even though it is no longer an accurate point of comparison across devices.

Regardless of how you spin it, it is the standard way screen size is measured. Tech people understand aspect ratios, the average user does not. If you go to a store and look at a TV, no mention is made of the surface area of the screen, ditto for laptops, monitors, camera lcd's, tablets, phones, lcd screens on printers, etc.

 

[samcraig]

Because that was the point of the case?

So what you're saying is - you're assuming. You have no facts nor inside knowledge why (exactly) Apple did what they did when they represented sizes.

Got it. Thanks

 

[macman34]

Oh please. . Oh, my bad, did Apple actually state that their iMac had a wireless power supply?

As far as I know they are the first computer manufacturer to portray a cordless computer on "on" in marketing material. Other's might have hidden the cables, they simply did away with them, because it looked good to show the imac on with no cables attached.

Perhaps they should have slapped "beta" on the ad and all would be forgiven.

All wasn't forgiven for siri who was and still is in beta. And imaps was definitely in alpha upon release. Don't open the can of worms...

 

[Trius]

Could you post a link to the lying ad?

To repost the same link in the OP seems redundant... Not to mention they have since edited the page to try to cover their asses.

 

[iGrip]

Thank you, Mr. Temple for giving Microsoft/Android/Blackberry etc. fans yet more reason to lump all Apple fans into the same category of hysterical morons who have hissy fits whenever anyone tries to degrade an Apple product.

Thank you, Mr. Skippymac for giving Microsoft/Android/Blackberry etc. fans yet more reason to lump all Apple fans into the same category of hysterical morons who have hissy fits whenever anyone tries to degrade an Apple fan.

 

[toaster64]

Could you post a link to the lying ad?

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/compare#t1=asus-vivotab-smart
It should have been posted in the OP, so here it is.

 

[MegamanX]

Agaiin, just because a number is used to reference a particular size does not mean it is the actual size. Diagonals correlate directly to screen size when aspect ratios are the same. However, it does not work when aspect ratios vary. We just keep using it out of tradition, even though it is no longer an accurate point of comparison across devices.

It is when everyone else follows the general same standard.

Apple is the expectation. Everyone else more or less uses 16:9. Apple is the only one who does not do that. So it is say screen size is a fair comparison for everyone BUT Apple.

Also asking the average joe to understand oh in^2 might be a little much

Also if you want to watch a movie. I can promise you that the image will be bigger on the ASUS 10.1 in screen than the Apple 9.7.

 

[HenryDJP]

As far as I know they are the first computer manufacturer to portray a cordless computer on "on" in marketing material. Other's might have hidden the cables, they simply did away with them, because it looked good to show the imac on with no cables attached.

You suggested they misrepresented. They stated nowhere on the website that the iMac had a cordless power supply regardless of pictures. The customer has a responsibility to use some form of common sense. Even with the Macbooks that don't show any power cords in their pics they talk about battery life. If the customer doesn't bother to read the specs on the website then they are that's their problem.

Did you conveniently ignore this pic when trying to prove your point?

 

[AppleScruff1]

To repost the same link in the OP seems redundant... Not to mention they have since edited the page to try to cover their asses.

So no foul has been committed.

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http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/compare#t1=asus-vivotab-smart
It should have been posted in the OP, so here it is.

And what is not true in that ad?

 

[MegamanX]

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/compare#t1=asus-vivotab-smart
It should have been posted in the OP, so here it is.

I would recommend you look at your own link...... It is a massive fail at this point.

 

[macman34]

Screen size has always been measured in surface area. Diagonals are just a convenient references carried over from TVs where you had a standard aspect ratio.

Man, the extent to which you are willing to portray black as white to favour your claim is simply unfathomable. You apparently think everyone but yourself is so stupid that you will get away with it.

Screen sizes have traditionally NEVER been measured in surface area. NEVER, EVER. I have never, ever, in my life seen a screen size spec as an area specification in square cm say, and neither has anyone else.

But of course let's just take your word for it. And instead imagine a world where everyone says, I am after this X cm^2 monitor instead of a 22", 23.5", 24" monitor.

 

[toaster64]

And what is not true in that ad?

The scaling is off in the image.

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I would recommend you look at your own link...... It is a massive fail at this point.

This image is from that link.

 

[AppleScruff1]

You suggested they misrepresented. They stated nowhere on the website that the iMac had a cordless power supply regardless of pictures. The customer has a responsibility to use some form of common sense. Even with the Macbooks that don't show any power cords in their pics they talk about battery life. If the customer doesn't bother to read the specs on the website then they are that's their problem.

Did you conveniently ignore this pic when trying to prove your point?

What about not showing the bulge in the back? Don't you think that they are trying to give the impression that the entire pc is actually as thin as the edge of the monitor?

 

[samcraig]

All wasn't forgiven for siri who was and still is in beta. And imaps was definitely in alpha upon release. Don't open the can of worms...

It was sarcasm.

To repost the same link in the OP seems redundant... Not to mention they have since edited the page to try to cover their asses.

That's your assumption. Perhaps they realized their mistake and quickly edited it. Perhaps they read your post and were so hurt, they changed it. We'll never know.

You know at the iPhone 5 keynote - they kept referring to the iPhone 5 as the thinnest smartphone in the world. You'll note that at the very end - they referred to it as the thinnest iPhone yet. You know why? I can guess (like you) someone googled it backstage and realized that would be lying. So they adjusted their presentation.

It happens. Accident? Purpose? Matters little since it's been corrected and the amount of people that probably saw the original is relegated to mostly those that visit this forum and the where it was originally posted. Not the general public.