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Outlook 2016 is giving me three fits:

One, it says that it only works with Office 365 mail accounts, is that true? We have on-premise Exchange 2010.

Which brings up the next error, it says it won't work with Exchange 2010 data files.

And now it crashes every time it tries to start.

Nice.

Apparently there will be constant flow of new beta seeds before going GM sometime during the summer. Its just that regular beta stuff, some applications might be (most of the time) fine but you can't really rely on them.
 
Yep, to me that is whole point of Office 365 subscription. Its really not the Office applications but the unlimited cloud storage.

LOL. You are so funny. Do you really think Microsoft will keep it unlimited forever? Keep dreaming. Once they "rule the world" they will jack the price up as you'll have TB and TB of data out there so moving from it will be way too hard.

MS has a long history of screwing their customers without the use of Vaseline.

Want enterprise licensing for Office? You have to take Exchange (even though it's garbage) for "free". Just pay us for the server license at some astronomical rate. Oh, and we'll jack you around every year with high "re-up" costs. Where else you gonna go? And if you do go, the BSA goons will show up. There are plenty of cases of just that in the world.

Win 10 will be free. Except to Enterprise users.

MS costs per year are among the highest in the business!

If you think that MS will keep cloud storage free forever, keep dreaming! They will put limits or jack it up when they feel they can.

Sorry, it's the same old Microsoft that has been a cancer on the world for far too long!
 
Yes, I believe it will be unlimited forever. Remember, first: You're paying for it. It's not free. It's only available with the monthly 365 subscription. Second, the cost of storage is constantly decreasing. Third, once you're using it, you're probably not going to cancel. Too much of a hassle if you have everything you own backed up there. It's a brilliant plan that keeps us devoted to them.
 
Thanks but I'm happy with Open Office, Pages, and TextEdit, Numbers on occasion. They do everything I need. My Mac is an MS free zone and I likew it that way.

Good for you but 99.99% of corporate America is MS office based. I just wished they'd convert Visio and Project so I won't have a need for a VM running Windows.
 
My god, what a bloated mess...

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Tried Omnigraffle?

How big is pages, numbers, and keynote? And what is in Office that isn't in iWork?

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LOL. You are so funny. Do you really think Microsoft will keep it unlimited forever? Keep dreaming. Once they "rule the world" they will jack the price up as you'll have TB and TB of data out there so moving from it will be way too hard.

MS has a long history of screwing their customers without the use of Vaseline.

Want enterprise licensing for Office? You have to take Exchange (even though it's garbage) for "free". Just pay us for the server license at some astronomical rate. Oh, and we'll jack you around every year with high "re-up" costs. Where else you gonna go? And if you do go, the BSA goons will show up. There are plenty of cases of just that in the world.

Win 10 will be free. Except to Enterprise users.

MS costs per year are among the highest in the business!

If you think that MS will keep cloud storage free forever, keep dreaming! They will put limits or jack it up when they feel they can.

Sorry, it's the same old Microsoft that has been a cancer on the world for far too long!

And you have some reason to believe this beyond ideology? Seriously, this isn't old Microsoft.
 
I don't know and I don't care. Almost certainly not this big.

When Office is nearly as big as a fresh install of the OS and FOUR times bigger than the previous version, that's a bloated mess.

A quick look in the Applications folder puts most of the 2016 Office apps at around 1.5GB each, and the iWorks stuff at 400-500MB each. Just roughly.
 
I don't know and I don't care. Almost certainly not this big.

When Office is nearly as big as a fresh install of the OS and FOUR times bigger than the previous version, that's a bloated mess.

It won't be that big at launch.
 
Agreed. At work we have to use Office and I utterly despise the Ribbon. Worst UI ever made by anyone on any app on any platform.

It's brilliant. A bit rough around the edges on Office 2007, perfected with Office 2010 and completely brilliant in Office 2013.

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Thanks but I'm happy with Open Office, Pages, and TextEdit, Numbers on occasion. They do everything I need. My Mac is an MS free zone and I like it that way.

You can't be doing very much if you get by using that rubbish.
 
osfcore.framework is already lower case on my system, so apparently this fix isn't the issue for me anyway.

Same here, I launch it but it immediately crashes. osfcore.framework is also all lowercase for me.
 
Same here, I launch it but it immediately crashes. osfcore.framework is also all lowercase for me.

yeah don't think this is our problem, mine is all lowercase and still having issues.

I've done all permissions repairs and even did a disk repair.
 
LOL. You are so funny. Do you really think Microsoft will keep it unlimited forever? Keep dreaming. Once they "rule the world" they will jack the price up as you'll have TB and TB of data out there so moving from it will be way too hard.

MS has a long history of screwing their customers without the use of Vaseline.

Want enterprise licensing for Office? You have to take Exchange (even though it's garbage) for "free". Just pay us for the server license at some astronomical rate. Oh, and we'll jack you around every year with high "re-up" costs. Where else you gonna go? And if you do go, the BSA goons will show up. There are plenty of cases of just that in the world.

Win 10 will be free. Except to Enterprise users.

MS costs per year are among the highest in the business!

If you think that MS will keep cloud storage free forever, keep dreaming! They will put limits or jack it up when they feel they can.

Sorry, it's the same old Microsoft that has been a cancer on the world for far too long!

It's not free, it's part of your Office 365 subscription that you pay money for.

How can you not understand that? It's so simple that it's frightening that you don't get it.

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Personally, Office 2010 was the best. Office 2013 is way too flat and white for me.

Use the Dark theme?
 
LOL. You are so funny. Do you really think Microsoft will keep it unlimited forever? Keep dreaming. Once they "rule the world" they will jack the price up as you'll have TB and TB of data out there so moving from it will be way too hard.

MS has a long history of screwing their customers without the use of Vaseline.

Want enterprise licensing for Office? You have to take Exchange (even though it's garbage) for "free". Just pay us for the server license at some astronomical rate. Oh, and we'll jack you around every year with high "re-up" costs. Where else you gonna go? And if you do go, the BSA goons will show up. There are plenty of cases of just that in the world.

Win 10 will be free. Except to Enterprise users.

MS costs per year are among the highest in the business!

If you think that MS will keep cloud storage free forever, keep dreaming! They will put limits or jack it up when they feel they can.

Sorry, it's the same old Microsoft that has been a cancer on the world for far too long!

There is good chance there will be some sort of limitations at some point. However, if you examine Bitcasa which was the first unlimited cloud storage you'll find out that vast majority of users end up using only gigabytes not even a single terabyte of cloud storage. Unlimited storage is more of an marketing push than a service everyone requires and actually need. Regarding the future, I'm leaning towards of expecting to see more and more unlimited cloud storage solutions than seeing them change to limited storage options.

When it comes down to enterprise solutions every service provider wants to suck you dry. The cost of software / hardware support and maintenance is insane. IMHO, MS is far from being the worst. Compare them to Autodesk and they are just bunch of saints (ok, maybe not saints but at least they are not trying to get insane support fees just so you can download updates).

Ps. ...and no, the MS Onedrive is not free, its the "killer app" of paid Office 365 subscription.
 
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Is Outlook for Mac much different than the 2015 version that just released several months ago?
 
There is good chance there will be some sort of limitations at some point. However, if you examine Bitcasa which was the first unlimited cloud storage you'll find out that vast majority of users end up using only gigabytes not even a single terabyte of cloud storage. Unlimited storage is more of an marketing push than a service everyone requires and actually need. Regarding the future, I'm leaning towards of expecting to see more and more unlimited cloud storage solutions than seeing them change to limited storage options.

That's exactly it. I was so excited when OneDrive went unlimited that I uploaded all my Office docs, videos, photos, iTunes library and a ton of video backup to it. You know how much storage I've used? Under 5TB.

They make it unlimited, but really, most users will use a fraction of that.
 
2016—Why is it named almost a full year ahead of its time? Does Microsoft do this so that the product will "seem new" for a longer time? So it'll have less pressure to issue an update until further in the future?

I'm hoping this means that the Windows and Mac versions' year numbers will be in sync, which would be a lot less confusing.
 
yeah don't think this is our problem, mine is all lowercase and still having issues.

I've done all permissions repairs and even did a disk repair.

Looks like it's with anybody who tries to import settings from Outlook 2011.
 
Crashes here too on 10.10.2, no beta. Everything else seems to work as well.

My Outlook is crashing upon opening too. Every time. Currently unusable.


Did you try to import the settings from Office 2011 too?

I did. Does that make a difference? It seemed to input everything fine. But after a few clicks around in Outlook trying to look at email, it crashed, and now it crashes every time I reopen.


osfcore.framework is already lower case on my system, so apparently this fix isn't the issue for me anyway.

Mine was already lowercase as well - so that's no fix.
 
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