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Found a fix for the repeated Outlook crashing...

Involves a couple Terminal commands to delete preferences:

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http://crunchify.com/microsoft-offi...ook-crashes-after-fresh-install-fix-included/
 
Downloaded and looks great.

However:
Every build will expire roughly 60 days after it is posted. The last preview build will continue to function for roughly a month after our official launch date.:mad:
 
Will someone please check to see if the new Word will do *right-to-left* paragraphing? This obvious feature (present in the Windows version for over a decade) has never been available in MacWord, Gates alone knows why. If it is...I'll bite the bullet re the "updated interface" and switch when the standalone version comes out. If not...I'll stick with Office 2008. :(

? Do you mean align text to the right? So it starts on the right and moves to the left when you type???

I hope not for your sake, because if that is what you mean, you've been using an old clunker for no reason a really long time.... as that has been in every version of office on the mac ever.
 
It's about time! I just hope it will run on ML.

No. Has to be Yosemite +

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Downloaded and looks great.

However:
Every build will expire roughly 60 days after it is posted. The last preview build will continue to function for roughly a month after our official launch date.:mad:

That is pretty much standard protocol. Why are you mad about that?
 
Oh joy of joys! I can at last insert images in my documents without going through hoops or just giving up defeated (not good when a client is expecting a doc in Word format). Inserting images into Word 2011 would usually create blank images, no matter the format or size.

It's also great to see the Smart Art options rather than perpetually spinning spinners.
 
There are some tricks I recently learned at the Apple store to smooth the workflow on Numbers, but I stopped using it and don't see myself going back to it. It can make for some pretty graphs and interesting layouts, but I've been working with Excel for 20 years and it is what I'm comfortable with.

I have an honest question: at what point do we decide that Microsoft has redeemed itself and we start replacing our high priced Macs with Windows machines? I like my Apple toys very much, but differences in quality of OS and hardware don't seem so pronounced as they did 5 years ago.

It is with great pain that I agree....
And in many ways, Microsoft has surpassed Apple in innovation.

I had to install windows 8 under bootcamp for a class I have coming up, and my XBox One eased me into the tiles a bit... (which i never really liked...) but they are actually highly useful bits.

I think Win8 has a bit of an identity crisis even still (and its hard adjusting to hot keys on a mac for windows) but it's actually a really decent OS now that I've actually used it vs. bashing it without really knowing it. MS really has gone in a direction I thought Apple would have been the leader in, and Windows 10 seems to really have ironed out the lack of harmony between touch and keyboard and mouse use.

I would love to be able to pop the display off my MacBook at times... or touch it.... touch has become a much more natural response to things. After I've been on my tablet, I do find the transition odd going back to my Mac. The iPad just still does not cut it as a true productivity device.

Win8 really has a bit more elegant mix of doc and mission control type layout, and more logical.

Yet for as much as I like about it, the identity crisis (do I want to be a metro app, a classic desktop app, or a decent hybrid like Chrome) is just still too awkward for me to say I would consider a Windows machine as a primary purchase.

It really is hard for Apple to justify the hardware costs considering the wide price gap vs. performance these days. That "it just works" classic mac appeal waned with the death of power pc. Yet Mac's still have a bit more logical work flow and ease of use.

Microsoft still hasn't quite learned to make a simple task 1 or 2 steps like apple. They still love you to take 9 clicks through screens to adjust a setting or do something simple.

Might now break down and buy a winbox, but bootcamp worth windows has become.

Let the hate rain on this post, but I really bashed the hell out of Windows 8 and then I actually used it.... not perfect, but definitely a mile run in the right direction. I honestly can't say that about OSX. The only real new feature was handoff, and it's really not that useful. OSX has mainly seen under the hood changes, lipstick, but not taken an evolutionary leap since maybe Leopard. Leopard was really that last release that felt satisfyingly new in features and experience. The most major shift has really been tabbed finder and the stop light buttons actually.... work like windows! :eek:
 
It's frightening that you don't see that unlimited doesn't last forever.

When the iPhone came out we had unlimited data. That's gone on most carriers (AT&T, Verizon).
Still rocking my unlimited data on AT&T. Every time they want to change my data on the other lines, I always ask, "Does this change my unlimited data?"
"No"
"Can you please send me that in writing? I am a visual learner, and sometimes I hear things wrong."
"ummmm"
"Can I just come to the store to verify this?"
"OK."
 
It is with great pain that I agree....
And in many ways, Microsoft has surpassed Apple in innovation.

I had to install windows 8 under bootcamp for a class I have coming up, and my XBox One eased me into the tiles a bit... (which i never really liked...) but they are actually highly useful bits.

I think Win8 has a bit of an identity crisis even still (and its hard adjusting to hot keys on a mac for windows) but it's actually a really decent OS now that I've actually used it vs. bashing it without really knowing it. MS really has gone in a direction I thought Apple would have been the leader in, and Windows 10 seems to really have ironed out the lack of harmony between touch and keyboard and mouse use.

I would love to be able to pop the display off my MacBook at times... or touch it.... touch has become a much more natural response to things. After I've been on my tablet, I do find the transition odd going back to my Mac. The iPad just still does not cut it as a true productivity device.

Win8 really has a bit more elegant mix of doc and mission control type layout, and more logical.

Yet for as much as I like about it, the identity crisis (do I want to be a metro app, a classic desktop app, or a decent hybrid like Chrome) is just still too awkward for me to say I would consider a Windows machine as a primary purchase.

It really is hard for Apple to justify the hardware costs considering the wide price gap vs. performance these days. That "it just works" classic mac appeal waned with the death of power pc. Yet Mac's still have a bit more logical work flow and ease of use.

Microsoft still hasn't quite learned to make a simple task 1 or 2 steps like apple. They still love you to take 9 clicks through screens to adjust a setting or do something simple.

Might now break down and buy a winbox, but bootcamp worth windows has become.

Let the hate rain on this post, but I really bashed the hell out of Windows 8 and then I actually used it.... not perfect, but definitely a mile run in the right direction. I honestly can't say that about OSX. The only real new feature was handoff, and it's really not that useful. OSX has mainly seen under the hood changes, lipstick, but not taken an evolutionary leap since maybe Leopard. Leopard was really that last release that felt satisfyingly new in features and experience. The most major shift has really been tabbed finder and the stop light buttons actually.... work like windows! :eek:



I used Windows 8 quite a bit before buying a Mac, and I always felt Windows 8 was a dumbed down desktop with a mobile OS added in. Like 2 OS's in 1. There is dual functionality and apps right out of the box. Its not really all that intuitive although you can get used to it. The built in apps like email were really weak.
 
Enterprise do not pay the same as consumers for Office 365 subscriptions, it's on a per user basis.

And the unlimited storage for consumers will last forever. I think the average amount a user has in their OneDrive is less than 1GB. This will probably raise by a few GB as people backup their camera rolls to OneDrive over time, but MS know what they are doing.

Microsoft are making money, but they can afford to give unlimited storage away when you realise how much money is generated, particularly from the Enterprise. How else do you think they keep the lights on in the data centres?

I agree. There are practical limits with how much you can put on a onedrive anyway, and the more people have on onedrive, the less likely they'll ever stop paying for the service.
 
Don't bother. It doesn't work. Managed to bypass the OS requirement check for the installer and tweaked with the files in the apps. This is really stupid though. Don't really understand why Yosemite is set as the minimum requirement.

What happened after you bypassed OS requirement check?
 
Does this update retain the Publisher features that Word for the Mac has? That's the only reason I use it, I have more options for flyers and brochures than with Pages. If those features are gone then I'm going to be stuck shelling out cash for InDesign or something..
 
Question to all Office power users, is Office 2016 for Mac on par with Office 2013 (or even Office 2016 for Windows) feature-wise?

Does Excel finally support PivotCharts???

Thanks!

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Is Excel still crippled and worse than Excel 2010 on Windows?

Any power users?

How's Excel 2016 on the Mac?


I just imported some spreadsheets I've been using at work. I'm absolutely amazed at how much better Excel is now than in the 2011 version. The ribbon finally flows and makes sense like it does in the windows version. I just tested a bunch of functions - H/Vlookups, pivot tables, macros...everything seems to work really, really well.

MS has done a very nice job thus far. (Can't believe i'm saying that.)
 
What happened after you bypassed OS requirement check?

It installed fine. The apps however will not open. I've already tried modifying the plist files inside the apps and changed the minimum OS requirement but it still doesn't work. I'm guessing in addition to using the plist, they added some sort of requirement check somewhere in the code itself.
 
Can't install on 2014 MB Air!

For some reason I can't get the .pkg file to load and install the preview. I've downloaded it twice now going for a third time! Does anybody else have this problem?
 
In my opinion, it is.

I just imported some spreadsheets I've been using at work. I'm absolutely amazed at how much better Excel is now than in the 2011 version. The ribbon finally flows and makes sense like it does in the windows version. I just tested a bunch of functions - H/Vlookups, pivot tables, macros...everything seems to work really, really well.

MS has done a very nice job thus far. (Can't believe i'm saying that.)

Cool! How about ODF? Is it finally supported?
 
It installed fine. The apps however will not open. I've already tried modifying the plist files inside the apps and changed the minimum OS requirement but it still doesn't work. I'm guessing in addition to using the plist, they added some sort of requirement check somewhere in the code itself.

No, it's not a version check. It's due to the application calling for APIs that only exist in Yosemite.

There's more below.

i have to use Mavericks for software compatibility reasons... if i use the tweak to bypass the software version check, will Office 2016 run on Mavericks?

Sorry, no luck.

Simply bypassing the version check will result in crashing before the main app even launches, due to Microsoft's own MicrosoftFBA.Framework within the app calls for new API _NSHTTPCookieDiscard in CFNetwork.framework that is only present in Yosemite.

However, I didn't just stop there. I had two plans:
One of them is to copy Yosemite's CFNetwork.framework over to introduce the new symbol in order to pass the calling.
Another is to replace the new MicrosoftFBA.Framework in Office 2016 Preview with a slightly older one found in previous releases of Outlook for Mac. Since they share similar structure, it may work/

And it did. Sort of.
The check was passed, and the main app attempted to launch. After a few bounces on the Dock, the OS got confused with duplicated class OUIHelpMenu, OUIHelpWindowController and OUIHelpManager in both app binary and Microsoft's own frameworks. This only prevents help function from functioning, but shouldn't be a deal-breaker.

However, the application later returned
-[CUIDocumentShellWindowPathControl setEditable:]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 0x7b0917c0
And that caused the application to simply crash. Another API issue.

There may be a way to force it to run on Mavericks, but it's out of my capabilities.

I also know early internal versions of Office 2016 do work on Mavericks from old window control widgets shown on leaked internal slideshow screenshots. However, it's quite a shame they decided not to support it on public bata.
 
Apple Mail

Does AppleMail work with outlook 2016? What is the secret to getting apple mail map setup to work with 2016?
 
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