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Microsoft Lays Out Plans for Windows on ARM Processors
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Yeah but does it make you want it?
MS has a way of going too technical for average people to just want their stuff. I guess they don't have to try because it just comes on a "computer" that someone buys at a store and has no idea what an operating system is.
It's like, "Oh MS just came out with this great OS and I really want it" just doesn't come to mind.
They need new marketing people.
MS has a way of going too technical for average people to just want their stuff. I guess they don't have to try because it just comes on a "computer" that someone buys at a store and has no idea what an operating system is.
It's like, "Oh MS just came out with this great OS and I really want it" just doesn't come to mind.
They need new marketing people.
What's missing feature wise in AirPort Utility 6? I thought it was mainly the overview of the base stations that was different?
Want to know what the usual virus experience is like in Windows?
1. Get Microsoft Security Essentials. It's free.
2. Get Malwarebytes Antimalware. It's free.
3. Don't open up emails from strange people.
4. Run MSE and AW about once every other month for peace of mind.
It's hardly the constant fight you're making it out to be. I haven't caught a virus since...damn, I think 2000. And I only caught a virus then because I was bored one night, and thought it'd be cool to download Quake II off Limewire.
I suggest you go look up how MS is doing WP7. They put some very strike guide lines on requirements for those phones. You have to use an approved screen resolution, have a minimum 5 point multi-touch screen digitize, min CPU spec, min Ram requirement and so on.
MS is very strict on it requirements and I see them doing the same for ARM.
And I totally don't want to push people on getting apple products if it doesn't suit them. I ask them what they want to use it for and I ask them can you handle the PC or are you used to it? Then I say, go for the windows based system. I just won't be able to support on it totally. If they ask me they want a Mac, I then again, ask them, what they may be doing or using it for. And Try to get them the CHEAPEST line for what they want. And I can train them the basics if they need it... Point, Click, and Play (Do). And if they really want portability or just simply browsing, get an iPad, or if they want creative power and have the money to make money with it, get at the most powerful mac pro or macbook pro.
I have to admit, Windows have many Great virtual Games. Having the right PC based systems. But I believe I'll get the most powerful mac pro and load up bootcamp and run windows on it and game with it. I got a laptop mac book pro that I just did that and play several of the popular PC games smoothly. When I'm in a gaming mode which is usually very little.
More advanced functionality. You can't even see the DCHP clients that are connected to a Airport base station.
Well done MS, before iPad was launched, I imagined it more like this, rather than iOS on a larger screen.
(Not trolling - I use OSX as my primary OS, and I own a iPhone +iPad)
I hope iOS for iPad is developed further like windows on ARM with usb and peripheral support etc
When Steve launched the iPad he spoke of a device between your phone and computer, this metro layer of windows ARM looks promising....Kudos
(Not trolling - I use OSX as my primary OS, and I own a iPhone +iPad)
I hope iOS for iPad is developed further like windows on ARM with usb and peripheral support etc
When Steve launched the iPad he spoke of a device between your phone and computer, this metro layer of windows ARM looks promising....Kudos
Me too. Had some issues with the developer preview but looking forward to the consumer preview however.
Windows 7 is a nice OS and a substantial improvement over Vista, I'm not sure the same will be for 8, more of a facelift but hey prettiness has its perks
Will hopefully get my hands on a Windows 8 tablet in the future, but I'm more tablet excited about the iPad 3 at the moment.
Of course, Windows 8 will be a massive success. It will be on 90% all new computers. The computer market is still growing. They will make tens of billions with Windows 8.
Will it be a success beyond that? I don't think so. I don't see anything that we haven't already had for years now. Where exactly is the innovation that makes me want to buy a Windows tablet like it made me want to buy a touchscreen smartphone? Just look at Windows Phone. It's not a bad product at all and it has a massive company supporting it that's in it for the long haul. Still, it's a massive failure so far and it doesn't seem to be picking up much (not even with Nokia's help). The smartphone market is growing like crazy and they aren't even able to sell anything to people who are new to smartphones, let alone to switchers. Why? Because it was years too late. Very simple. The competition has very good products and much better ecosystems in place. The market is highly competitive, something Microsoft isn't used to. While Microsoft has yet to catch up in terms of software features and platform strength, others are already moving on to new areas.
By the time Windows 8 tablets hit the market, other companies will have sold at least a hundred million tablets to mostly very happy users. While Microsoft still has to build an ecosystem from the ground up, others are already firmly in place.
Having said all that, Microsoft has one massive ace up their sleeves and that's their nearly untouchable strength in the corporate market. While Apple and Samsung might already be selling a few tablets to businesses, tablets haven't really started to replace computers at the work place much. That might change, the interest is definitely there. Microsoft can leverage their position to actually take over that market immediately. They sure will provide a unique level of integration no one else can deliver.
One thing is sure, I already mentioned it. Microsoft will be around and chasing the competition for many years to come. If Google or Apple decide to take a nap, Redmond will catch up. However, if not, they will have missed the tablet boat and remain monopolists of the computer market that will remain very significant for a long, long time.
Will it be a success beyond that? I don't think so. I don't see anything that we haven't already had for years now. Where exactly is the innovation that makes me want to buy a Windows tablet like it made me want to buy a touchscreen smartphone? Just look at Windows Phone. It's not a bad product at all and it has a massive company supporting it that's in it for the long haul. Still, it's a massive failure so far and it doesn't seem to be picking up much (not even with Nokia's help). The smartphone market is growing like crazy and they aren't even able to sell anything to people who are new to smartphones, let alone to switchers. Why? Because it was years too late. Very simple. The competition has very good products and much better ecosystems in place. The market is highly competitive, something Microsoft isn't used to. While Microsoft has yet to catch up in terms of software features and platform strength, others are already moving on to new areas.
By the time Windows 8 tablets hit the market, other companies will have sold at least a hundred million tablets to mostly very happy users. While Microsoft still has to build an ecosystem from the ground up, others are already firmly in place.
Having said all that, Microsoft has one massive ace up their sleeves and that's their nearly untouchable strength in the corporate market. While Apple and Samsung might already be selling a few tablets to businesses, tablets haven't really started to replace computers at the work place much. That might change, the interest is definitely there. Microsoft can leverage their position to actually take over that market immediately. They sure will provide a unique level of integration no one else can deliver.
One thing is sure, I already mentioned it. Microsoft will be around and chasing the competition for many years to come. If Google or Apple decide to take a nap, Redmond will catch up. However, if not, they will have missed the tablet boat and remain monopolists of the computer market that will remain very significant for a long, long time.
Pretty much how I set up PC's for clients and the advice I give them.
Sadly most forget to update, open stupid attachment and links and still allow rouge software to install which when installed block MSE and Malwarebytes, so I still end up having to flush them out.....
woa?
In no way woa stands for "Windows on ARM" but rather for "WebObjects application" as in for instance in http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=421864154&mt=8 which is a link to the iTunes-Store that is implemented using WebObjects
In no way woa stands for "Windows on ARM" but rather for "WebObjects application" as in for instance in http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=421864154&mt=8 which is a link to the iTunes-Store that is implemented using WebObjects
Except Gates came out and confirmed the rumor was rubbish and that he was fully focust on his foundation work.
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Agreed. MS have been very backwards for a while, and Metro seems like they finally 'get it'. I think its going to be pretty big for them. They have found that one thing needed to fill the void between a touchscreen 'pad' and a desktop computer.
I've loathed Microsoft for a long time, however most of it is down to seeing Balmer drag them down, and knowing that even a trained chimp could have seen it coming, but this looks like a huge leap in the right direction. I cant help thinking that it wasn't Balmer who pulled them there though.
I wouldn't doubt the power of cheap hardware companies to come up with cheap hardware. Maybe they'll choose components that die within a year.
Green light for next-gen MacBook Air
We'll see if Microsoft can 1. get W8 running on ARM, and 2. sell it to more than just the curiosity-seekers.
If it sells, Apple will be ready with an ARM-based MacBook Air.
"It doesn't run windows" will no longer be an argument against an ARM-based MacBook Air.
We'll see if Microsoft can 1. get W8 running on ARM, and 2. sell it to more than just the curiosity-seekers.
If it sells, Apple will be ready with an ARM-based MacBook Air.
"It doesn't run windows" will no longer be an argument against an ARM-based MacBook Air.
There are so many reasons why all this is totally irrelevant.
Windows 8 is already DOA because there's a huge WHY? hanging over it. There really is no reason for any Windows user to upgrade. It's destined to be Vista Mkll.
And now that there are two iPad apps to run Word from the cloud, there also really isn't any reason to have a Windows PC of any kind.
So, move along folks, there's nothing to see here...
Windows 8 is already DOA because there's a huge WHY? hanging over it. There really is no reason for any Windows user to upgrade. It's destined to be Vista Mkll.
And now that there are two iPad apps to run Word from the cloud, there also really isn't any reason to have a Windows PC of any kind.
So, move along folks, there's nothing to see here...
Your argument goes either way. Agreed that there is lot's of crap OEM hardware running Windows, but also super fast, state of the art hardware you will never find in an Apple mobile device. That's the beauty of competion. All hardware makers are eager to get their hands on Win8 and finally into the tablet market (since android on tablet was a dud). I think we will see lot's of exciting hardware from Sony, Samsung etc. maybe even an Alienware x86 gaming tablet with a docking station
I get little snip-it videos of new features on Ubuntu every week or two. It is similar feeling...when you are updated regularly and see it in action.
Free music and video acquisition is still a major quagmire of malware for the majority of users. It is painful to hear some of the suggestions from the masses or yet another LimeWire installation for virus.exe.mp3.
I doubt you will have any chance to sideload applications for Windows on ARM so you are looking at a locked down store only environment. Then again anyone who really wants to and has physical access to hardware is probably going to find a way. That in no way really represents that majority of people.
I am still mistaken for an engineer...
Free for all at the end of this month. I will probably stick to a virtual machine this time instead of a direct installation.
This is why Windows 8 for ARM will never work: x86 Apps.
Microsoft has done this time and again:
1. Windows NT (great OS BTW) was ported to a number of different CPUs. The big hope was that you would have all these great CPU platforms running Windows NT in a big happy world. Well, 3rd party folks wrote utilities for one CPU platform: x86. Sure, I could run Windows NT on MIPS but if I needed a disk defragmenter or spiffy backup utility well I better be running X86 since that is where the apps were.
2. How about Windows CE or Pocket PC? How many CPUs did that run on? How did that turn out?
The rest of us that do not own a tablet are not looking so much for better features but the ability to run many x86 apps. With Windows 8 and a CPU that is X86 compatible you gain a plethora of software and tools that can't be beat.
iOS and Android tablets all share the same problem for CIOs in that you have to buy software for different platforms.
If I can buy a Windows 8 Table that runs x86 software I can access a wealth of software that is available. For CIOs who are worried about budgets and projects, this is a fantastic solution.
If none of that seems logical how about this? I am a CIO that is not going iOS or Android but I am strongly looking at Windows 8. I can buy a Windows 8 Tablet that I can choose an x86 or an ARM. Both are very similar and maybe even the ARM gives me some extra battery life. However, the x86 can run a plethora of software now or I can HOPE that many tools I use on my desktop will get ported to ARM. There is just no comparison in that situation. It will be x86.
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Microsoft has done this time and again:
1. Windows NT (great OS BTW) was ported to a number of different CPUs. The big hope was that you would have all these great CPU platforms running Windows NT in a big happy world. Well, 3rd party folks wrote utilities for one CPU platform: x86. Sure, I could run Windows NT on MIPS but if I needed a disk defragmenter or spiffy backup utility well I better be running X86 since that is where the apps were.
2. How about Windows CE or Pocket PC? How many CPUs did that run on? How did that turn out?
The rest of us that do not own a tablet are not looking so much for better features but the ability to run many x86 apps. With Windows 8 and a CPU that is X86 compatible you gain a plethora of software and tools that can't be beat.
iOS and Android tablets all share the same problem for CIOs in that you have to buy software for different platforms.
If I can buy a Windows 8 Table that runs x86 software I can access a wealth of software that is available. For CIOs who are worried about budgets and projects, this is a fantastic solution.
If none of that seems logical how about this? I am a CIO that is not going iOS or Android but I am strongly looking at Windows 8. I can buy a Windows 8 Tablet that I can choose an x86 or an ARM. Both are very similar and maybe even the ARM gives me some extra battery life. However, the x86 can run a plethora of software now or I can HOPE that many tools I use on my desktop will get ported to ARM. There is just no comparison in that situation. It will be x86.
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