I plan on using Windows 7 for gaming, and Snow Leopard for everything else. I'd love to buy Modern Warfare 2 for Mac OS X, but nobody will make it for me.
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Microsoft Matches Snow Leopard Price With Windows 7, But Only for Students
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How did you turn what I said into a Windows vs UNIX argument?
(does this forum have a facepalm smiley?)
To suggest that a supremely complex piece of software such as Windows can be ported to an alien CPU type (IA64 is noting like IA32/x86) with nothing more than a change of compiler is staggering in its madness. Do you really think that is how major software vendors operate?
Noo, I said the Languages were CPU agnostic. There are Libraries and APIs involved which are usually system specific. IE: Designed to interface with the BIOS/EFI Firmware. OpenGL 3, OpenCL etc etc.
Like I said, the argument is semantics. Not technology. Any smart person would've told us to shut up cuz we keep on ommiting details about our argument.
...Dont ask.
Where do you get "most" from? I'm sure you have never done any sort of study, nor even bothered to read one. If we're going to talk anecdotal evidence here, most people I know that have tried Macs don't think that they are much different, and won't switch because of price and the need to find replacements for their favourite Windows programs.
Don't bandy about words like sensible and intuitive as if they are objective truths. You can theorise all you like about how OSX top bar presents a more consistent UI since it changes with each program, but fact is most Windows users will be baffled by it at first. It doesn't matter that they have been conditioned to this by Windows being predominant, familiarity defines what is sensible and intuitive, not your theorists and designers.
i started with windows. bought a macbook and tried osx out for a few months. definitely still prefer windows. lol @ finder and not even being able to cut & paste without dragging. its like they designed osx for children or something.
I've seen that. One of my highschool friends got a Macbook just to tinker with iPhone programming. 80% of the time he is using the computer he is in Vista. I asked if he was going to upgrade to SL, and he wasn't sure, but when I asked if he was going to get W7 he said yeah. I personally don't get it. I would rather be in OS X than Windows, but not all people that switch are like that.
Reminds me of the funniest day I had with buddies (former colleagues) at their place of employment when I was visiting one day.
A new hire there, fresh out of college, was responsible for some kernel level driver coding. Nice guy, though not yet all that experienced or familiar with multiple architectures and the issues involved. So he was wondering why his C code kept crashing on the dev setup. We peered at the source code, and I (and another fellow) instantly spotted the issue: data structures weren't a) aligned on a boundary each CPU arch liked and b) he wasn't taking into account endianness. Whoops.
Result: mangled data and weird errors. The look on his face when we explained why to him was priceless.Your point regarding being aware of architecture-specific differences, even when using something like C, is quite valid. The person you were responding to would do well to heed that.
Reminds me of the funniest day I had with buddies (former colleagues) at their place of employment when I was visiting one day.
A new hire there, fresh out of college, was responsible for some kernel level driver coding. Nice guy, though not yet all that experienced or familiar with multiple architectures and the issues involved. So he was wondering why his C code kept crashing on the dev setup. We peered at the source code, and I (and another fellow) instantly spotted the issue: data structures weren't a) aligned on a boundary each CPU arch liked and b) he wasn't taking into account endianness. Whoops.
Your point regarding being aware of architecture-specific differences, even when using something like C, is quite valid. The person you were responding to would do well to heed that.
NERDS!
You programmer types have bizarre definitions for "funniest day with buddies."
thanks LTD, that sort of helped. but i still need to know if this "student version" is going to install on a mac without a previously owned copy of windows.
so my question still stands
Can I order this and install it on a mac mini running Vmware?
I looked at the sites FAQ but its horrid...absolutely horrid.
The FAQ clearly states that a clean installation is supported (for example, if you go from 32-bit to 64-bit, a clean install is required).
The FAQ also clearly states that this is the retail kit, not an academic version.
You think?
ohh i am very sure!
Once again Apple as shaken winfroze for waking up....but they're just to damn numb...lollollolloollooll
POWER
I find it difficult to compare the cost of Windows 7 vs. the cost of OS X as Apple is a hardware company and Microsoft as traditionally been a software company (with some exceptions, obviously).
But doesn't matter if Windows was free, I have no interest in using it as my primary system.
But doesn't matter if Windows was free, I have no interest in using it as my primary system.
Microsoft is a software company...lol indeed it is, but after all this years they just dont have no stable, simple to use software.
if windows was simple to use, it wouldn't be powerful enough for a corporate environment. (you have to sacrifice ease of use with functionality)
MS expects that the IT Department of a company isnt filled with n00bs that think they know everything because they have an iphone an they know how to setup gmail on it.
or on the other hand i use a PC at home because i dont feel like being bent over and ripped off by apples ridiculous policies and prices.
after the initial cost of my PC (only about $450) my PC is still running faster than any Mac after 2 years even for twice the price TODAY (Core2duo E4500 overclocked to 3.14GHz). there is no additional cost for maintenance if you actually know how to use a computer, macs are simply just too damn slow for my needs. (a notebook processor on a desktop package for $1800? LOL PLEASE....)
OMG Why should anyone need to learn how to drive? why cant the car drive itself?
or learn how to ride a motorcycle?
or why is my oven so hard to use? why cant it just program itself to cook my turkey?
why do i have to learn how to mow the lawn?
why do i have to learn how to wipe my ass after i go to the bathroom?
you sound like a spoiled child that has everything handed to him/her on a silver platter
if everything is supposed to be so easy, this world would be filled with IDIOTS and the human race would just perish because no one would know how to feed themselves. (it partially is but even more so than it is now)
also the same goes for cars, if you own one, you should at least know how it BASICALLY functions and what is required to maintain it, you should even know what size of tire it needs when you replace it. being completely ignorant on the subject is only your own dumb fault if something goes wrong.
sure but how does one install an OS downloaded from a site? Not only that but how is my osx going to run vmware to run windows which is just a download on my computer?
i cant run a windows executable on my mac. unless vmware allows me to point to a windows install app thats sitting on a mac harddrive.
If it's an ISO, you can burn it to a dvd or just mount it with VMware or whatever it is that's used to run virtual machines in Leopard. There has to be a wizard for easy setup in the program you use.
You do it from a Windows computer that Microsoft assumes you already have access to for the purchase. MS is targeting PC owners here, not Mac users in a VM environment. That doesn't mean that you cannot use it in said environment, but MS just isn't making things convenient for them.
Yes it's a bit arrogant, but that's how MS chooses to do things.
Microsoft/Digital River may be arrogant, but they can learn from their mistakes. They have made an ISO available for those who have trouble with the installer.
http://gizmodo.com/5391268/microsoft-fixes-windows-7-student-edition-upgrade-problems
Here's a direct link to the ISO: http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msvista/pub/X15-65733/X15-65733.iso
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