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Microsoft Matches Snow Leopard Price With Windows 7, But Only for Students

heisetax said:
You must rmember that we are now paying Apple a premium price for a Windows computer that will also boot & run the Mac OS. It is not the other way around. This means that many of us loyal Mac Users must also use the Windows computer as it was designed, i.e. with the Windows OS.

You may be one that can live without Windows. Good for you. If I would get around to writing my own efile program for doing income taxes I could probably join you, but until then I need to run Windows on a daily schedule.

If we can get our copy of Windows for $29 all the better. Most of the time that I am a student I can get the Windows OS for free or a few $'s for a disk.

I still have only computers sold to me by Apple. It is just that the new one will do a good job of running Windows. So if Apple built it, it needs to be used for everything that it can do. That means that the Windows OS is included in that.
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I have no idea why you can't do your taxes on Mac OS X? Last time I checked Tax Cut and Turbo Tax were both on OS X. I used Turbo Tax to do my taxes this year and no issues whatsoever with e-File. I didn't need Windows to do anything. When people like you make statements like this you are spreading FUD and most likely are just making excuses to use Windows when you really don't have to. :p
 
bradl said:
Well..

15 hours after I ask the question, and all we see are 3 pages of fanboi drivel.. and we wonder why people are getting tired of it.

So I'm going to ask again, and hopefully someone out there will know the answer to it, as any other search I've done has come up with nothing. So here goes again.

I'm close to purchasing this (faculty at Univ. of Nevada). I have XP running, plus my SO (college student, .edu address) has Vista on her PC laptop (64bit). She buys it, she upgrades, she's golden.

If I buy it (whether Home Premium or Professional), I should NOT be able to do a clean install on my XP box, right? Secondly, say I want to preserve that XP install, and swap out that drive with another. Now that should put me at no choice but to do that clean install. Would this upgrade DVD that they're selling provide that?

BL.
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Win 7 will ask you to move your Windows XP disc to Old Windows folder before install Windows 7. I mean it will ask your permisson to move it to that folder. That's it. Win 7 won't upgrade your XP. It will just back up your System C disc with all its contents. But you will need to setup all other small things including apps from the very start.
 
stylewriter said:
Evidently they aren't academic versions, so they should sell well on eBay

https://windows7.digitalriver.com/D...onPage&SiteID=mswpus&Locale=en_US&Env=BASE#q4
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Well you already have IT stating they will upgrade, I think this is going to create a huge buzz. At one poster said, he wouldn't mind a level version. Well I know three, no 4 school teachers and two have hacked xp. They will pgrade in a flash, then word gets out. This is all PR and not bad if I day so myself, coming from msft. Wonders never cease. Lol.

I so like how the article says MUCH higher $119, errr, wasn't apple leopard $129? Ya y, I know, one version, but it's worded like apple sells their OS for $29 all the time and see that pirated just as much.
Peace fam
 
MorphingDragon said:
Not having a crappy, over protective market regulator makes up for it... :rolleyes:

Do you want to help me get rid of renaissance?
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What has renaissance have to do with Windows 7 being in New Zealand; there is NOTHING stopping Microsoft New Zealand from parallel importing copies of WIndows 7 into New Zealand and selling it - unless they were f*cking stupid enough to enter into a exclusive contract with renaissance in the first place.
 
macintoshtoffy said:
What has renaissance have to do with Windows 7 being in New Zealand; there is NOTHING stopping Microsoft New Zealand from parallel importing copies of WIndows 7 into New Zealand and selling it - unless they were f*cking stupid enough to enter into a exclusive contract with renaissance in the first place.
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Ok...

Calm down. Before innocent crickets are munched upon.

Renaissance has a lot of control over the exporting and importing. A lot of laptops have the renaissance port stickers on the box as an example.
 
alabanco said:
Win 7 will ask you to move your Windows XP disc to Old Windows folder before install Windows 7. I mean it will ask your permisson to move it to that folder. That's it. Win 7 won't upgrade your XP. It will just back up your System C disc with all its contents. But you will need to setup all other small things including apps from the very start.
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So in short, this Windows 7 'upgrade' media can be used to do a clean installation of Windows 7. So my next question is, if I replace the drive with one that has absolutely nothing on it, can this upgrade media perform that clean installation? For all intents and purposes, with this new drive, Windows XP would not exist.

BL.
 
I definately think this is interesting. I'm actually kind of tempted to some degree...well the more I think about it, I'm not. I think it was the whole part of them having multiple editions that got me. I have never understood that. :confused:

Why not just have one and pick and choose if you want something while you are install the OS on the computer.

Crazy MS.
 
In snow leopard, if I was to download Windows 7 using Fusion or parallels, would I have to download it 32 bit or 64 bit?
 
bradl said:
That, I know. But that sorta defeats the purpose of an UPGRADE DVD. an 'upgrade' means that you have something that can be upgraded to something newer. If XP requires a clean installation, would the DVD contain everything for a 'clean' installation? If so, it isn't an upgrade, but a full installation media.
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Historically, with new Microsoft Windows versions, "upgrade" refers more to your license to the product rather than anything particular to the installation media itself. Generally, both contain full versions of the OS so that you can use your "upgrade" CD even on a clean install; the only difference is that a "full" version CD can't do an upgrade and that the upgrade CD requires to to prove ownership of an eligible previous version via either an existing installation or the insertion of CD (or, formerly, floppy) media to prove you had it.

The difference here with Windows 7 is that while the license for the Windows 7 upgrade version qualifies Windows XP as an eligibe previous version as far as the license is concerned (this is a good thing: you don't want to buy the more expensive full version), the "migrator" that it uses to import old settings and programs works only for upgrades from Windows Vista.

Personally, when I used Windows (the last upgrade I did was to XP, but I don't think much has changed since then), I always thought it was better to do a "clean" install, anyway, rather than an actual upgrade. You'll find it cleaner and faster this way. Of course, it was also necessary to do a clean install every so often, anyway, so the OS upgrade was just a nice exuse to do two things at the same time. :D
 
RMo said:
Historically, with new Microsoft Windows versions, "upgrade" refers more to your license to the product rather than anything particular to the installation media itself. Generally, both contain full versions of the OS so that you can use your "upgrade" CD even on a clean install; the only difference is that a "full" version CD can't do an upgrade and that the upgrade CD requires to to prove ownership of an eligible previous version via either an existing installation or the insertion of CD (or, formerly, floppy) media to prove you had it.

The difference here with Windows 7 is that while the license for the Windows 7 upgrade version qualifies Windows XP as an eligibe previous version as far as the license is concerned (this is a good thing: you don't want to buy the more expensive full version), the "migrator" that it uses to import old settings and programs works only for upgrades from Windows Vista.

Personally, when I used Windows (the last upgrade I did was to XP, but I don't think much has changed since then), I always thought it was better to do a "clean" install, anyway, rather than an actual upgrade. You'll find it cleaner and faster this way. Of course, it was also necessary to do a clean install every so often, anyway, so the OS upgrade was just a nice exuse to do two things at the same time. :D
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Which is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for helping with the decision. I already bought Snow Leopard for $10 (we bought our MBP within the 3 month window that Leopard had to qualify for that discount), so another $30 definitely wouldn't hurt, especially with the fact that I prefer clean installs, and this would be a huge fail for M$ if this only were to be for upgrades only.

BL.
 
probably, students could take advantage of this price as benificiery to purchase stuff but personally, it maybe a pilot from M$ to reduce its price in the near future for the entire folks to enter into low margin marketplace as products and nibbling much more on the service or even hardware gains as instead, for instance, Zune. hopefully, it wont be backpedaled later for the price range.
 
phineas said:
Well Yea of course only for students, somebody's got to keep the cash flow going for Balmer, and don't forget the M$ stores coming to a town near you :eek:
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Do you have a problem with Microsoft opening stores, which will probably fail? Let's see... uh, who opened up stores first? By golly, that was Apple. Yet, to you, it's "M$ $tore$" but not "Apple $tore$". And I guess to you, "M$ App $tore$" for the Zune follow under the same premise. How DARE Microsoft make money... how dare they?! Interesting. ;)
 
MorphingDragon said:
Itanium doesnt count.
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Would you like to give a reason? Or is this ignore things that contradict ignorant statements day?

IA64 is completely different to IA32/x86-64. Plus in the past Windows has been compiled to run on various flavours of x86, MIPS, Alpha and even PPC.
 
layte said:
Would you like to give a reason? Or is this ignore things that contradict ignorant statements day?

IA64 is completely different to IA32/x86-64. Plus in the past Windows has been compiled to run on various flavours of x86, MIPS, Alpha and even PPC.
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Itanium is just another Intel processing standard, not a lot of code has to be changed.

Windows was multiplatform when it still had to dance with IBM to exist.
That is now irrelevant, considering that was like pre-98 days.
 
Corrosive vinyl said:
so let me get this right:
1. it has to be a pre approved school (I don't see any Virginia universities listed, including my own; and what about community colleges?)
2. If you want the physical disc you have to pay $43 instead of $30
3. You have to download and run a program that will tell you if your computer will work with the new OS, and if it doesn't you have to get a new one or upgrade which will cost $$
4. It is the home premium version, with missing features
5. Why is this better then $30 for the full install disc of the mac OS
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1.- Yeah, MS probably has to have an agreement with that school.
2.- Software alone=$30. Software + physical disc +artwork +instructions =$43. Don't see the problem.
3.- That's for you to avoid spending $30 on something that wouldn't work. You might try to install it on a '95 computer and it wouldn't work. Again, don't see the problem here.
4.- You can get the Pro version too.
5.- Nobody said it was better.
 
MorphingDragon said:
Itanium is just another Intel processing standard, not a lot of code has to be changed.
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You don't half post some entertaining rubbish :)

You know windows runs on tonnes of embedded devices too right? Strangely, they're not all x86 based either.
 
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