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Shortly after Apple's October 2016 event, where the company debuted the new 2016 MacBook Pro with Touch Bar, Microsoft launched a new promotion aiming to convert unsatisfied MacBook owners to either the Surface Book or Surface Pro 4.

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Today, we are announcing a limited-time "trade up" offer to invite more people to experience Surface. If you have a Mac but want to experience the ultimate laptop with on-screen touch, Surface and Microsoft Store are here for you. Starting today, anyone in the U.S. can trade in their MacBook Pro or MacBook Air at a Microsoft Store or online for up to $650 off a Surface Book or Surface Pro.
Microsoft has also launched a website dedicated to letting users appraise their old MacBooks, listing a total of 117 different configurations of eligible MacBooks, MacBook Airs, and MacBook Pros. The range of eligible models goes back to the 2006 MacBook and MacBook Pros.

To be eligible for credit, the MacBook in question must not have a screen with any cracks or dead pixels. The housing must be intact and free of etchings, asset tags, or cracks. The computer must be able to power on and boot all the way to the desktop and all keyboard keys and functions must properly work. Additionally, Microsoft requires that users trade in the computer's charger.

The trade-in offer is good at Microsoft Stores in the U.S. and on Microsoft's website until November 10, 2016. The Surface Pro 4 tablet starts at $899 while the Surface Book starts at $1,499.

Microsoft yesterday announced the new Surface Book with Performance Base. The new hybrid laptop comes with an Intel Core i7 Processor that doubles performance over last year's model and includes 16 hours of battery life. The new Surface Book goes on sale November 10 and starts at $2,399.

Article Link: Microsoft Offering MacBook Owners Up to $650 Trade-In Credit Toward Surface Pro or Surface Book
 
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That might be tempting, if it ran OS X...that's still the prime reason to stick with a Mac, even if the hardware under it is becoming a question. Now, if I had an old laptop, it might be fun to get a Surface and try to put Linux on it...

It may be time for me to look into a Hackintosh or getting 2012 Mac Pro, it doesn't seem like Apple is taking their desktop computers seriously anymore.
 
It's true that the new pricing is bad, but I wouldn't have upgraded anyway. After all, I got my current one since last February. No need to upgrade. :p
They should use the same logic from iPhones keep the newer models prices the same and lower the cost of the older ones
 
I dunno the MacBooks announced today are outdated already as an Apple fan will admit that and Apples prices increased what a shame
How outdated? Be specific.

Overpriced. Oh yeah. Outdated? No.

I don't like the surface "laptops". But my IT and I talked about getting a surface studio for what we do. Would work great to have just one vs a wacom high end screen.
 
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How outdated? Be specific.

Overpriced. Oh yeah. Outdated? No.

I don't like the surface "laptops". But my IT and I talked about getting a surface studio for what we do. Would work great to have just one vs a wacom high end screen.
Kaby Lake is the new one probably the top 1 which it's not in the macs, and they should have increased the battery life, and the price of storage is just greed. They are charging more this year for a processor thats a year old.
 
Kaby Lake is the new one probably the top 1 which it's not in the macs, and they should have increased the battery life, and the price of storage is just greed. They are charging more this year for a processor thats a year old.
The Surface Book uses the 15W Kaby Lake. It beats the base MacBook Pro but not the one with the Touch Bar. Kaby Lake 25W chips are not yet available.
 
They should use the same logic from iPhones keep the newer models prices the same and lower the cost of the older ones
Agreed. That's exactly what I thought right after they announced the new pricing.

I mean, I love Apple. They make incredible products, and I don't think they're losing their vision. It's different from Steve's vision, but that's a good thing. At least we know they're not trying to 'copy' him. It's just that they've been into money too much lately. Even worse, in countries like the Netherlands Apple products cost even more. The iPhone 7 I bought was €879 which converts to over $950. Same thing with the new MacBook Pro: entry model with Touch Bar and Touch ID costs €1999 which is around $2173 (compared to $1799). That's crazy! I know these bad regulations done by the EU aren't Apple's fault, but still... many companies actually try to keep pricing more consistent across all countries. Yet, Apple forces us Europeans to pay even more. Not just here, but in countries outside the EU as well. And we're not even getting every feature that Apple has, like Apple Pay, QuickType, that new TV app, TV Shows, Transit for Maps, News app etc.

That's so disappointing. But because I love their software efforts, I keep using it. Even I, as a network engineering student have to admit that Windows is bad. :p
 
I was also one of the die hard Macs fans that was not that impressed with the new MBP's and disappointed that there was no new (or at least refreshed) Mac Pro.

But, I'm typing this on a nearly three year old MacBook Pro and my wife's 2011 MacBook Air still runs and looks great - you realize that Apple's engineers balance performance for a system that works well and lasts a long time. There is tremendous engineering that went into the system to produce a smaller, more powerful form factor with the same battery life.

The first time you use this thing outdoors in the sun, or have to copy files off onto a Thunderbolt 3 drive, or have a feature pop up on the Touch Bar that you usually have to go looking for, you will realize where all the hard work went - for years of pleasurable use.
 
That's just Microsoft playing dirty again -$650 is quite a bit. Not that they are trying to buy Apple fans or anything. :)
They might attract a few fans sitting on the fence still, but not pro users who use Macs for a reason.
 
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The Surface Book uses the 15W Kaby Lake. It beats the base MacBook Pro but not the one with the Touch Bar. Kaby Lake 25W chips are not yet available.

Do you have a source for this? I've got people complaining about the lack of Kaby Lake I'd like to appease. Are you saying the Skylake chips in the Touch Bar MBPs are 25W?
 
Do you have a source for this? I've got people complaining about the lack of Kaby Lake I'd like to appease. Are you saying the Skylake chips in the Touch Bar MBPs are 25W?
28W. Based on the published specs, they are using the 6267U in the 13" which is a 28W chip per Intel's website. The non-Touch Bar model uses the 6360U which is 15W. Apple could have used a Kaby Lake 7200U in the base 13" non-Touch Bar model, as that is out, but none of the higher wattage processors is available yet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake#Mobile_processors
 
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