thus perpetuates even more FUD. If you know of a better office suite let me know, and i have tried open office and to me it doesn't cut it.
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Microsoft Office 2008 Update Brings Speed Increases and New Features
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thus perpetuates even more FUD. If you know of a better office suite let me know, and i have tried open office and to me it doesn't cut it.
Oh common, I found the exact oposite - that I needed Office, because iWork could not deliver on the promise.
iWork is far from perfect and so is almost every software-tool. If it seems perfect now - be sure there will be the next version that breaks it
Curious about what incompatibilities you've encountered. Please elaborate.
I've yet to find a document that doesn't convert properly from Office to iWork.
I understand the arg that iWork doesn't have the feature depth of Office. But having used Office for the past 10 years, I know that its a classic example of the 80/20 rule (if not more). For sure if I were an accountant of physicist using advanced formulas, I'd be kinda stuck. But I'll gladly use a product that gives me everything I regularly need in a usable form any day.
Yes, virtualisation is an option, however since 'copy & paste' between VM and Host only works for text objects, I much prefer the native version...
Well, true. I am considering running virtualization software.
I'm basically just asking which version people prefer though, regardless of workflow/virtualization/etc... I'll consider that after I get a feel of which (Mac or PC) Office is more liked.
So, anyone? ^^^
I prefer Office2008 over Office2007 because of the User Interface. I hate the ribbons!
Speed Improvements?
Final Cut Pro boots much faster than Microsoft Word on my Mac Pro. I avoid MS Office at all cost.
Final Cut Pro boots much faster than Microsoft Word on my Mac Pro. I avoid MS Office at all cost.
lol .... the installer program freezes when I try to update
running disk utility now and than will restart
hope that will help
restart solved the problem
Love the fact that I can open documents from Office Live. But why can I not directly save new documents to Office Live? Is this because "Document Connection" also needs to be compatible with "Sharepoint"?
I can not speak for the whole suite, since I only ever tried Keynote but found that it does not provide what I need:
I have a huge base of existing lecture slides in Powerpoint and I contemplated the idea to move these over to Keynote. Conversion was ok, some animations where garbled, bitmaps had lost their transparency, minor issues with fonts and sizes.
After this the real problems started. I found the inspector hard to work and requiring very many actions to get what I want (mainly just simple slide-build up: starting from a simple proposition and adding complexity later).
The other issue I had, was that when I needed to change the font properties of a single character (such as highlighting a term) it garbled the whole bullet point formatting.
It is very easy in Keynote to accidentally activate the text background instead of the foreground objects. If you than drag, or use the cursor-keys you move your text.
Clip-Art support is lacking. Now and then I need some cliparts. Keynote has nothing to offer here...
Full screen presentations require to set the screen size beforehand. Very annoying if one needs to work on different machines and with external projectors of different resolutions.
All in all so many things came together that I bought a copy of Office2008 and most things work now as before... (I am missing Linkback-Support)
PS: I also disliked the idea to move from a 'not-so-well-documented' file-format to a completely proprietary format. Something you have absolutely no alternative to open and edit with...
Sometimes the installer fails to quit the AutoUpdate app, or there is an AppleScript like bug window in behind the install window that you need to click ok in.
No Spaces issues for me . . .
As always, YMMV . . . ;^)
Ever since I installed Hyperspaces (sorry, don't have a URL at my fingertips),
the MS Office - Spaces interoperability has been much better - at least in my
environment. It seems to sit on top of Spaces, and I can switch between 4
spaces without MS Office getting all "hinky" (from "NCIS" ;^) ). I can open
a file (.doc/.ppt/.xls) directly and not have the whole world get locked into
Space swapping.
Let's hope this doesn't get broken with this SP2 . . . ;^)
My understanding is the Spaces issue is more on the Apple Side than the MS side, but regardless, the end result is that it doesn't work
Woof, Woof - Dawg
As always, YMMV . . . ;^)
Ever since I installed Hyperspaces (sorry, don't have a URL at my fingertips),
the MS Office - Spaces interoperability has been much better - at least in my
environment. It seems to sit on top of Spaces, and I can switch between 4
spaces without MS Office getting all "hinky" (from "NCIS" ;^) ). I can open
a file (.doc/.ppt/.xls) directly and not have the whole world get locked into
Space swapping.
Let's hope this doesn't get broken with this SP2 . . . ;^)
Just installed the update, Word seems to start much faster...
Safari is snappier too! j/k...
One thing I did notice is that the toolbox has this new (at least I don't remember it) button on the top right. It flips the toolbox around to show toolbox settings... (pic attached).
Safari is snappier too! j/k...
One thing I did notice is that the toolbox has this new (at least I don't remember it) button on the top right. It flips the toolbox around to show toolbox settings... (pic attached).
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Nice find, but it has been there before.
Now I can get rid of this silly animation!
Does anybody know if it is possible to open 2 instances of toolbox, so that I can have different areas open in them at the same time?
i'll echo some other early-installers' comments above: word and excel load noticeably quicker than prior to the update.
i did not (but should have) clocked it before and after. i'd estimate that word used to take 4-6 seconds to load and now it takes 2. (mac pro w/ intel ssd)
not enormous in the grand scheme of life, but it is readily apparent.
what does not seem faster to me is opening an excel file from a 4-disk raid0. saving and opening from excel have always been slow. perhaps it's a touch faster than before, but a 3mb test file takes 6 seconds to load. it might have been something like 8 or even 10s before, but dropping down to 6 isn't a big enough change to make your system feel snappier -- you're still tapping your foot, waiting.
i did not (but should have) clocked it before and after. i'd estimate that word used to take 4-6 seconds to load and now it takes 2. (mac pro w/ intel ssd)
not enormous in the grand scheme of life, but it is readily apparent.
what does not seem faster to me is opening an excel file from a 4-disk raid0. saving and opening from excel have always been slow. perhaps it's a touch faster than before, but a 3mb test file takes 6 seconds to load. it might have been something like 8 or even 10s before, but dropping down to 6 isn't a big enough change to make your system feel snappier -- you're still tapping your foot, waiting.
SP2 off the update site
Just installed and went to launch a .pptx file. Got an error msg as though it was a .pptx file being opened in an unpatched Powerpoint 2004 version. Called MS support and while the analyst was working to download the update it was pulled from the website. Fix is to reinstall the whole suite. So i'd cautious if you have a working link. Of note .docx and .xlsx files work fine after the update as does the old format .ppt.
Just installed and went to launch a .pptx file. Got an error msg as though it was a .pptx file being opened in an unpatched Powerpoint 2004 version. Called MS support and while the analyst was working to download the update it was pulled from the website. Fix is to reinstall the whole suite. So i'd cautious if you have a working link. Of note .docx and .xlsx files work fine after the update as does the old format .ppt.
"We’d first like to thank you for taking the time to test and give feedback on our Entourage, Web Services Edition beta program.
Regarding the Entourage, Web Services Edition final release, we’ll be making an announcement shortly about the official release this summer.
In regards to the Service Pack 2 release that is now available as of this morning, 7/20, if you have the Entourage, Web Services Edition beta installed, you will not be able to update your Office 2008 beta build to Service Pack 2. You will need to remain on the 12.1.5 build that was released with the Entourage, Web Services Edition beta.
If you would like to install Service Pack 2 for Office 2008, you will need to completely remove the beta copy of Office 2008 (including Entourage, Web Services Edition and the 12.1.5 build), and re-install your retail, licensed copy of Office 2008 for Mac. At that point, you will be able to install Service Pack 2. Note that you will then be using Entourage 2008, and not Entourage, Web Services Edition.
In addition, as you prepare for the summer release of Entourage, Web Services Edition, please note that Service Pack 2 will be the minimum requirement to install the released version.
Thanks again for taking the time to give us feedback about Entourage and our beta program.
The Entourage, Web Services Edition team."
Seriously?!? Wow...