Microsoft Overtakes Apple as World's Most Valuable Company

[sw1tcher]

Apple this year brings the best rock solid devices and microsoft brings an windows 10.5 with a surface double laptop studio mess and takes the first place )
Now you know how Wall Street analysts and experts think

? There's way more going on at Microsoft than just Windows. Was a complaint about Windows 11 the best you could do?

 

[boss.king]

When was the last time that you handed money over to Microsoft, and it wasn’t done reluctantly? Maybe xbox/games?

Why are you buying things you're reluctant about in the first place? Microsoft makes a lot of great products and services, but they're not right for everyone. If you don't feel good about paying for them, find something that better fits your needs.

 

[Pro Apple Silicon]

If they and everyone else do keep pumping out all these devices, disrupting ecosystems and tearing through the planet's finite resources at an ever-increasing pace, we all die.

Lol. I try, but I cannot empathize with you. You possess a false interpretation of reality that I don't think I could even pretend to support or subscribe to.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

Microsoft has a good financial backbone in the Enterprise. Their Server and user licensing contracts guarantee them some steady income.
Then there is Office 365, Windows OEM licensing, OneDrive, etc.
And they still charge for Windows.
Being diversified has paid off.

Apple lost part of it after losing interest and later dropping XServer. And to make it worse, stripping macOS Server and turning it into something nobody cares anymore.

 

[Serban55]

? There's way more going on at Microsoft than just Windows. Was a complaint about Windows 11 the best you could do?

soorrryy, i guess for you the cloud or surface duo are far better )))) good one

 

[Tozovac]

Why any importance to one being valued more than the other?

If one has more revenue at higher margins, then one’s more valuable than the other. Whoppee.

Unless this matters to Tim to the point we’ll soon have $3000 base MBP’s, $300 AirPods, and $40 cleaning cloths.

 

[AxiomaticRubric]

I wish Apple had kept a toe in the server waters. They should have never sacked the Xserve and the actual server utilities (email, wiki, web server, etc.) of macOS Server. That would have helped them create a solid business presence in cloud services.

That alliance with IBM for business-related cloud services was too little, too late. It wasn’t enough to make server-side Swift a viable option to .NET and Node.js.

 

[dwaltwhit]

What's 30 billion between friends?

 

[Ebarella]

And yet, Microsoft will miraculously dodge all antitrust complaints—and no noise will be made—despite having a near monopoly on the personal computer space. They aren’t even in FAANG, but Netflix is?

You missed the 90's?
What kind of anti competitive practices is Microsoft pulling that you feel need to be addressed?

 

[sw1tcher]

Good on Microsoft, though they have been dreadfully quite on the consumer side of late.

Huh? They recently (i.e. within the past month or 2) announced a bunch of new hardware (Surface products) and games for Xbox.

 

[jntdroid]

You missed the 90's?
What kind of anti competitive practices is Microsoft pulling that you feel need to be addressed?

Exactly.

Also, I miss Windows Phone... !

 

[sdf]

That’s a typo. “Stands with” refers to solidarity

Apple also stands in solidarity with its $2.43 trillion.

 

[boss.king]

You missed the 90's?
What kind of anti competitive practices is Microsoft pulling that you feel need to be addressed?

Exactly. Microsoft is likely the reason most people have even heard of antitrust, I doubt it's a mistake they'll make again any time soon.

 

[bobenhaus]

Apple had its best quarter ever, best sales ever, and was at the same time constrained by shortages.

I mean, that is a buying opportunity, Wallstreet is sometimes so dumb.

Yeah billions in shortfalls because of supply chain issues.

Apple CEO Cook: chip shortage impact will be even worse this quarter

Apple CEO Tim Cook said the impact in the December quarter of the global chip shortage will be worse than the $6 billion hit to revenue in September. "It is affecting pretty much most of our products currently," said Cook.

www.zdnet.com

 

[MBAir2010]

I am not surprised at all, since globally and businesses use Microsoft more.
Microsoft seems to be user friendlier and less gardened than .

just from a simple business theory of last couple of years
Microsoft buys their processors while  has to make them now.
which is probably cheaper, for Microsoft.

i know i will get some feedback on how wrong I am soon.

 

[Tozovac]

Exactly.

Also, I miss Windows Phone... !

Ugh…the thing that gave Jony strange tinglings for uber-thin, nondesript fonts and low contrast unnecessarily-transparent interface details we never needed (and many of us detest to this day).

 

[aibo82]

Don’t matter if their first or 21st I never want to encounter another blue screen of death in my life!

Or windows updates waiting hours for an update for an update for a fix of an update…

 

[Darth Tulhu]

"We need to let go of the notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose". -Steve Jobs

It must be said that Microsoft OWNS two very large and lucrative markets: Enterprise and Gaming, and for good reason.

Microsoft has been improving steadily since Nadella took over, and this is evidence of it. Windows 10 is great, and Windows 11 looks good too (at first glance, I haven't used it). Their hardware offerings are solid as well.

That said, Apple was wise to shift to a consumer-first focus: Their mobile/wearable computing ecosystem is unmatched and will continue to reap heavy profits.

Now Apple is taking care of their creatives, a valuable Apple niche that lost them users in 2013 and 2016 with their blunders of the tube Mac Pro and crippled MBPs.

We'll see where they sit next year, when the AS transition is complete and they unleash a MONSTER of a Mac Pro, if the MBP release expectations hold.

 

[insomniac86]

It’s funny reading these comments, both the article author and a lot of the comments show a complete lack of understanding of what Microsoft focus on these days.

I don’t see Apple competing with Microsoft in VR or AI as Apple are consumer focused. Sure you have the Apple “Pros” which are really just video/music creators/editors.

Since COVID19 many thousands of business have migrated to Microsoft cloud platforms. You have Microsoft Office 365, Exchange, Teams, SharePoint, Onedrive, Azure etc, the list of services is huge.

Apple provide literally nothing that can even compete with any of that.

EDIT:
So my point is, It isn’t an Apple Vs Microsoft. Apple make fantastic consumer products. Microsoft still have a lot to learn in that space. Microsoft serve the enterprise.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

I updated my gaming machine to 11, just to see what it's like, and it's pretty rough. I'd go so far to say it's pretty terrible in a lot of ways. Like, core functionality, that's fine. Everything works. But the fit and finish is so bad I get embarrassed on behalf of whoever programmed it whenever I use it.

For instance, switching desktops is just ugly. It's a four-finger drag on the trackpad, but it's so painfully janky and slow, and half the time the animation gets stuck for a second or so with the screen split down the middle between the two desktops. If you use the Windows version of exposé to select a desktop, there's no animation at all. It just dumps you onto the new desktop and you can see things like the wallpaper and windows "pop" in. It's ugly and jarring. On the Mac that sort of thing is smooth as butter.

Also, the interface is wildly inconsistent. Windows 10 wasn't much better, but 11 is just a train wreck. They clearly released it before it was ready.

I don't mind using it for gaming, but for anything else it just feels wrong. It feels the way Linux used to feel many years ago, as if it were designed by several committees that all seemed to hate each other.

The best versions of Windows:
• Windows for Workgroups 3.11
• Windows 98
• Windows XP

 

[sw1tcher]

I'm curious about why Microsoft is sitting and Apple is standing.

Apple Watch told Apple to stand because they were sitting too long and not moving enough. Need to close the rings.

 

[derekamoss]

I've been using Win11 for a little while now, it's lovely.

Actually in my experience Windows has been rock solid over the last few years. More-so than the MacOS and now that it's pretty much just as nice.
I have the best of all worlds, Apple hardware, MacOS and Windows in Parallels when I want it.

I have had the same experience with Windows being really stable.

 

[Pezimak]

Nice, add another 25.54 trillion and it’ll equal the US national debt.

 

[sw1tcher]

But isn't Microsoft bolstered by its web services division?

It's no different than how Apple is bolstered by the iPhone division.

 

[snapple6789]

Apple this year brings the best rock solid devices and microsoft brings an windows 10.5 with a surface double laptop studio mess and takes the first place )
Now you know how Wall Street analysts and experts think

In all fairness, I think the valuation has less to do with Microsoft Windows and more with Microsoft's Azure platform.