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Q: What's the difference between cyber-bullying and these ads?
A: Microsoft has a budget to call it "professional."
 
Really?

Bigger screens, swappable batteries, NFC, SD card slots, and plenty more that I can't think of since I've never owned a better phone but I've seen in friends phones.

You really think those features are going to improve the iPhone and give people features they are clamoring for? LOL!!!!! NFC mass adoption is a big question nor is widely used. So throwing that battery sucking feature in just to say you have it is just plain stupid. It needs to be something that has value and at this point it is just not there yet. Overall, It really does not benefit the majority of users. An SD card and removable battery just makes for a larger bulkier and uglier phone. Apple's goal is to give you and thin, stylish phone with great battery life through optimized hardware and Software. With airdrop, iCloud and other features SD cards are becoming irrelevant. Bigger screen? Maybe... and this something Apple might do but overall and I often go back and forth on the pro's and cons of a bigger screen.
 
Great - and if Sony pokes fun at Apple you'll probably use your iPhone as your gaming console henceforward. Have fun!

I won't have a problem at all since I'm not a hardcore gamer but I really don't care about your opinion on the matter but thanks for quoting me.
 
You would think they might have better success poaching customers from Samsung/Android.

Apple ecosystem is probably harder to leave once you're entrenched.

I would say the same about Google's. Or any brand with a far reach of products that you can integrate into multiple of your daily life.
 
questionable taste = "champagne" colored phones and phone cases that look like crocs.


Remember this... Champagne with be a very popular color if you want to believe it or not!! The phone case colors are options and I have shown my kids and their friends and they all think they are totally cool!! These will be huge for many but they were not intended to be for everyone!
 
I'm not anti Microsoft, but I no longer need Microsoft. My home is 100% free of Microsoft products. Last year I had 2 PC's and a laptop.

That is something people are realizing daily. You can live without Microsoft, and their products are blah, with the exception of Xbox maybe.

Thing is you can take Microsoft out of the bold portion of your comment and replace it with Apple/Samsung/Google and the statement would still be true. None of us actually need any of those companies. In these forums we present everything as if it's life or death and it isn't. It does make for interesting reading though. There are those who take their relationships with these companies very, very seriously. It says something about them. What that is, I really don't know.
 
Who said that nobody would care about a nice camera? The Nokia 1020 may be the "best" camera, but it's far from the first "nice" camera on a smartphone. What people were implying is that the Nokia 1020 is more of "a camera with a smartphone attached to it" than any other phone on the market. Some people need that kind of quality, but most people don't. The camera has been a selling point on the iPhone from the 3GS onward, but it has never been and likely never will be the selling point.

Go through the Nokia 920 thread that came up recently, and look at all the attempts to bash it based on the fact that no one cares about camera quality on a phone. "If they want to take real pictures, they'll use a DSLR". As for the rest, I do agree with you. I myself have said that having a nice camera on my smartphone is a great thing to have, but wouldn't be THE deciding feature between one phone and another unless all things were otherwise equal.
 
RAM and storage are different. The iPhone 5 has 1 GB of RAM and the 5s is rumored to have 2GB of RAM.

You of course are correct - sorry if I used the wrong terminology. However, one could obviously tell by context that I was talking about storage and not RAM. Only someone who is completely pedantic would assume I truly meant RAM and NOT storage and make it a point to correct me... :rolleyes:

My point still remains - Apple needs to up the storage in their next iteration...
 
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Microsoft has posted seven new videos to its Windows Phone YouTube page, as part of a new series it calls 'A fly on the wall in Cupertino'.

The ads purport to show iPhone 5c and 5s product pitch meetings with characters that bear a striking resemblance to Steve Jobs and Jony Ive, though the Jobs-esque character is called Tim several times.

YouTube: video
If the executive in the videos is intended to resemble Steve Jobs, then they would appear to be in very poor taste. It's not at all clear how the videos -- which don't ever explain how Windows Phone is better than iOS -- help Microsoft achieve its stated goal of getting users to switch to its platform.

- A fly on the wall in Cupertino
- A fly on the wall in Cupertino: Colours
- A fly on the wall in Cupertino: Polycarbonate
- A fly on the wall in Cupertino: Innovative materials
- A fly on the wall in Cupertino: The phone for everyone
- A fly on the wall in Cupertino: Fingerprint reader
- A fly on the wall in Cupertino: 8-megapixel camera

Update 12:42 PM PDT: Microsoft has pulled the videos from YouTube.

Article Link: Microsoft Posts Anti-Apple Windows Phone Videos of Questionable Taste [Update: Removed]

You can now view the video here: http://youtu.be/20LgureMuWo - and it is NOT removed yet!
 
anyone get the rest

this is great. did anyone get the other 7 videos?

love to see them sink like an anchor.
 
I gotta agree with the ad. What the hell has Apple been doing the last 6 months? But unfortunately, the iPhone 5C/S will not flop. People will once again line up in droves like nice little iSheep. I don't understand it. They're not bad phones, but their not innovative.

1. You and three dozen others (when I clicked on "quote") of our forum members agree with the ad? Talk about iSheep.

2. What Apple has been doing the last 6 months: what they usually do. Working on designs we'll see down the road apiece. Talking about prototypes for things we'll see sooner than that. Reviewing and updating supply chain gig for what's shipping now, what will ship tomorrow, next week, next month. Patiently tracking and fixing bugs in software. Enhancing software for greater functionality and even more customer satisfaction. Providing customer service. Answering developers' questions. Tip of iceberg, off top of my head, fill in the blanks if you like and next time ask a question with no good answers when you're only aiming for rhetorical flourish anyway.

3. How is it unfortunate that any product rollout turns out to be popular among consumers when they have a choice? It's not a zero sum game, you know. People don't buy a smartphone like it's a capital improvement of their property, like a septic system or a new roof on the barn, stuff one might hope to purchase once and depart the marketplace! Because I like the 5C this time (and I have posted a lot about why, and with emphasis on THIS TIME) does not mean I have just decided to leave behind the high end of all Apple products forever and ever after today. You guys who like to carp and whine cannot have it both ways. You want choice. Apple just delivered it. Choose, and enjoy your choice. You don't want choice? Then settle for your usual groove, whatever it is. The freebie looking good for cost considering the tech state, the last-year-but-from-ebay middle of road, the high end current rollout with all available bells and whistles. Or, like a lot of us, the surprising extra choice this year: the 5C with its brand new body, improved under the hood, great Apple quality and value for the money.

4. On innovation: Are you usually an early adopter of new chips and high end storage options? Good, then you will not complain if the 5S has a little rough edge here and there like lots of even top-quality first-gen hardware may initially demonstrate. Right? You will not carp about how the 5S does not meet your exacting standards? Because otherwise, then really you could carp about the 5C (also a new release) for quite a bit less dough.

I could go on, but game over. ;)
 
From the company that brought you Songsmith

http://youtu.be/3oGFogwcx-E

Truly the most excruciating 5 mins of anyone's life.

Regarding these ads... I think they are supposed to be funny... But um, no.
 
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