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No, as usual YOU have got it totally (and purposefully) wrong. Of course, running antivirus software is optional on either OS X or Windows systems. The key difference is, you'd pretty much be a fool not to run something on a Windows system to protect yourself. On the OS X machine, you'd be wasting your money on such software, not to mention probably slowing down your system for no good reason. But everyone with an ounce of intelligence already knows this.

Meh, I turned off the virus software on my WinXP box. Tired of the slowdowns on that, too. I'd much rather be productive and not prone to bashing my computer. It's at work, so I'm not playing with misc videos and apps, anyway.
 
I don't want each application 'doing their own thing' I want uniformity - I want application vendors to focus on their application and not wasting half the development concerning themselves with the theming engine and how

The point of a theming engine is that the developer doesn't HAVE to worry about the look. The engine and individual themes are responsible for how the end product looks. A good example is Firefox. I don't care for the default look under Windows or Mac (no, Safari's look doesn't ring my bell) so I use Noia Extreme. I use it on Mac, Windows and Linux and it manages to look great under all three (the window headers are OS controlled so they're really the only thing that varies much between them).

So in a way, I have a more "unified" experience across operating systems WITH themes than without. A theme shouldn't interfere with a "unified" look. To the contrary, it's the theme's job to look the same with everything that uses its toolkit. The problem with Linux is that that they have more than one GUI/Theming engine. If you run a KDE program, it will look like KDE under Gnome and vice versa and so you lose all uniformity. Likewise, apps that use neither set of libraries can technically look like X-Windows from 20 years ago (yeah I've seen some newer updates to apps like emulators still have ancient GUIs).

Apple COULD have at least had some basic theming options (they did in OS9, although they were very minimal). At the very least, they could let you choose between previous OSX GUI looks or even let you mix and match on various bits and parts. Some people like their computer to look a little bit unique (beyond the background screenshot and I'm half surprised Steve doesn't FORCE his favorite background on you to be honest; I wouldn't put it past him).

Certainly some things like the menu bar need some options, to put them on multiple monitors if nothing else. I shouldn't have to drag my mouse across an entire monitor screen (possibly several on a Mac Pro) just to get to the menu bar preference setting or whatever. That doesn't happen on Windows because they have those on the windows themselves (although under XP at least, it still doesn't let you have multiple start/task bars so Windows doesn't fully seem to "get" multiple monitors either. I've actually had better luck configuring such things under Linux, although not all programs are well behaved there.
 
This is incorrect. If you do the same type of things on both systems, the risk will be the same. If you download software from suspicious sites and then run it on your computer you invite the troubles. Given that there are very few things available for downloading for Mac gamers (or Warez software in general) the risk is generally lower for Macs users (i.e. security by obscurity).

This is incorrect (as usual). "Security by obscurity" is a fallacious myth perpetuated by Windows fanboys to try to make themselves feel better about using an OS that is basically Swiss cheese for malware writers, versus Mac OS which has never been affected by a virus in the wild since it was released a decade ago.

And Warez software? Are you actually serious with this garbage? So Windows gets a pass because its users are more likely to download pirated software? How do you trolls come up with this stuff? Strange that all the viruses that can be found in illegally shared music and movie files never seem to affect Mac users.
 
How do you trolls come up with this stuff?

I think Redmond faxes out a talking points bulletin to all Astroturfing Division members on a weekly basis. It explains the vain repetition (and inaccuracy) of it all.

Oh, and did you know Bill Gates saved Apple with a $150 million investment? :rolleyes:
 
This is incorrect (as usual). "Security by obscurity" is a fallacious myth perpetuated by Windows fanboys to try to make themselves feel better about using an OS that is basically Swiss cheese for malware writers, versus Mac OS which has never been affected by a virus in the wild since it was released a decade ago.

And Warez software? Are you actually serious with this garbage? So Windows gets a pass because its users are more likely to download pirated software? How do you trolls come up with this stuff? Strange that all the viruses that can be found in illegally shared music and movie files never seem to affect Mac users.

From WikiAnswers:

Q: Can you get a virus through MP3 files?
A: Yes, but there have not been any reported mp3 viruses for PCs, Macs, or Linux computers. But there has been one confirmed mp3 virus that attacks ipods, see http://bilb02.livejournal.com/373.html.
 
This is incorrect (as usual). "Security by obscurity" is a fallacious myth perpetuated by Windows fanboys to try to make themselves feel better about using an OS that is basically Swiss cheese for malware writers, versus Mac OS which has never been affected by a virus in the wild since it was released a decade ago.

And Warez software? Are you actually serious with this garbage? So Windows gets a pass because its users are more likely to download pirated software? How do you trolls come up with this stuff? Strange that all the viruses that can be found in illegally shared music and movie files never seem to affect Mac users.

Show me these music and video file viruses you speak of. Or, in fact, send it to me.
 
From WikiAnswers:

Q: Can you get a virus through MP3 files?
A: Yes, but there have not been any reported mp3 viruses for PCs, Macs, or Linux computers. But there has been one confirmed mp3 virus that attacks ipods, see http://bilb02.livejournal.com/373.html.

Show me these music and video file viruses you speak of. Or, in fact, send it to me.

Wow...didn't think I'd have to spell it out for some of you. Of course mp3 or video files can't contain executables, it's the files on the torrent sites masquerading as music/movies that people download and double-click on without screening them that can get you Windows users in trouble. Nothing to worry about if you're on a Mac, as long as you don't type in your login and password when prompted by what you expect is a song or movie.
 
Hey guys I need your help.

I Dont know whether i shall buy the new imac quad core or hp touchsmart 600 ( im used to the leopard processor but i am a hardcore gamer and i need an operating system which lets me play games like left for dead and cod mw2 online with other players. I know that the new imac has boot camp but i dont know whether boot camp will let you play online with live, steam etc.

what should i do?, what computer should i get, imac quad core, hp touchsmart 600, or any other pc/mac? < and can bootcamp let you play pc games online?
 
Wow...didn't think I'd have to spell it out for some of you. Of course mp3 or video files can't contain executables, it's the files on the torrent sites masquerading as music/movies that people download and double-click on without screening them that can get you Windows users in trouble. Nothing to worry about if you're on a Mac, as long as you don't type in your login and password when prompted by what you expect is a song or movie.

Strange that all the viruses that can be found in illegally shared music and movie files never seem to affect Mac users.

The power of the internet: The ability to quote. And what you pointed out is a flaw in humans, not Windows.

Besides, Windows asks if you want to open the executable that may harm your computer which you have to accept. They may also be prompted with the UAC in standard Windows Vista/7 configs. if someone is dumb enough to do that, then they are dumb enough to enter a password. You can also run as a standard user and not admin and be safe.
 
The power of the internet: The ability to quote. And what you pointed out is a flaw in humans, not Windows.

Another power of the internet: The ability of people to be spectacularly obtuse.

Like I said, DIDN'T THINK I HAD TO SPELL IT OUT FOR SOME OF YOU, but I see I even have to spell that out for some especially dense people. :rolleyes:
 
Another power of the internet: The ability of people to be spectacularly obtuse.

Like I said, DIDN'T THINK I HAD TO SPELL IT OUT FOR SOME OF YOU, but I see I even have to spell that out for some especially dense people. :rolleyes:

lol, ill just assume I'm the correct one here then and that you have no idea what you're talking about.

BTW Ive learned when you don't know what you're talking about, its best to not say anything. Future lesson for you if you ever become somebody. You dont want to be known as a BSer.
 
This is incorrect (as usual). "Security by obscurity" is a fallacious myth perpetuated by Windows fanboys to try to make themselves feel better about using an OS that is basically Swiss cheese for malware writers, versus Mac OS which has never been affected by a virus in the wild since it was released a decade ago.

And Warez software? Are you actually serious with this garbage? So Windows gets a pass because its users are more likely to download pirated software? How do you trolls come up with this stuff? Strange that all the viruses that can be found in illegally shared music and movie files never seem to affect Mac users.

Misery loves company, but trying to equate OS X to Windows in terms of security is laughable.

Never mind that OS X, with its Unix-based file system and kernel, is, and has always been, harder to infect with a self-replicating program.

Windows, OTOH, allows users to write run-executable code outside their own protected memory space, whereas OS X does not.

The need for allocating resources toward running AV 24/7 is a waste, and grows tiresome.

The burden of diligently cleaning and editing the Windows Registry to remove trojans, malware, and spyware which the AV software didn't catch, is even less appealing.

Life is way too short for the need to be preoccupied by such inane distractions - thank you, no.

From WikiAnswers:

Q: Can you get a virus through MP3 files?

A virus embedded within an mp3's code would be uncommon, since it would be difficult to do.

Spyware accompanied with the download, however, is quite a different story. ;)

Or better yet, malware masquerading as an MP3 file - lots of them in the wild, :) albeit, of no consequence to OS X users.
 
A virus embedded within an mp3's code would be uncommon, since it would be difficult to do.

Spyware accompanied with the download, however, is quite a different story. ;)

Or better yet, malware masquerading as an MP3 file - lots of them in the wild, :) albeit, no consequence to OS X users.

Thanks for reaffirming my faith that posters on MacRumors do not typically require hand-holding to figure out what is being discussed. ;)
 
Hey guys I need your help.

I Dont know whether i shall buy the new imac quad core or hp touchsmart 600 ( im used to the leopard processor but i am a hardcore gamer and i need an operating system which lets me play games like left for dead and cod mw2 online with other players. I know that the new imac has boot camp but i dont know whether boot camp will let you play online with live, steam etc.

what should i do?, what computer should i get, imac quad core, hp touchsmart 600, or any other pc/mac? < and can bootcamp let you play pc games online?

I can't say much about the Touchsmart, but I have an i5-based iMac and it completely screams. I would definitely recommend it. All of the games I play have Mac binaries, though, so forgive any inaccuracies on my part relating to Windows gaming. I assume that by "leopard processor," you mean the Mac OS. If that is the case, a high end dual-boot Mac will be perfect for you. An article I found says that CoD: MW2 requires a 1.8 GHz Core Duo, 512 MB of RAM and a 256 MB Radeon X1600XT. Left 4 Dead requires a dual 2.0 GHz processor, a 128 MB graphics card and 1 GB of RAM. L4D2 requires basically the same, but a 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo. It should be easy to run any of this on a quad-core iMac equipped with Windows. The 512 MB Radeon 4850, 2.66 GHz quad-core i5 and 4 GB of RAM blows all of the above minimum requirements out of the water. Actually, now that I look at the Apple Store, I realized a mistake. The above model is the recently discontinued 27" model. The new one has a 2.8 GHz i5, a 1 GB Radeon 5750 and 4 GB of RAM.

Boot Camp, requiring that you have a spare copy of Windows, will essentially turn your Mac into a PC. The Mac OS shuts down and Windows starts up. As such, anything you could do with a PC containing the exact same hardware can be done on a Mac, including networking.

You might find it easier to get further help if you start a topic in the Mac Gaming section of the forums.
 
Misery loves company, but trying to equate OS X to Windows in terms of security is laughable.

Never mind that OS X, with its Unix-based file system and kernel, is, and has always been, harder to infect with a self-replicating program.

Windows, OTOH, allows users to write run-executable code outside their own protected memory space, whereas OS X does not.

As I understand you refer to a problem that existed in Windows XP (and prior versions). It's not the case in Vista or Windows 7 anymore. So for those buying a new computer this point is absolutely moot.
 
As I understand you refer to a problem that existed in Windows XP (and prior versions). It's not the case in Vista or Windows 7 anymore.

As far as you know. But as we've seen in many of your previous posts, you don't have a great track record for knowing what you are talking about and you tend to play pretty fast and loose with the facts, so buyers beware.
 
LOL! From Microsoft's Windows 7 Homepage: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Optimize-Windows-7-for-better-performance

Check for viruses and spyware

If your PC is running slowly, it's possible that it's infected with a virus or spyware. This is not as common as the other problems, but it's something to consider. Before you worry too much, check your PC using antispyware and antivirus programs.

A common symptom of a virus is a much slower-than-normal computer performance. Other signs include unexpected messages that pop up on your PC, programs that start automatically, or the sound of your hard disk constantly working.

Spyware is a type of program that's installed, usually without your knowledge, to watch your activity on the Internet. You can check for spyware with Windows Defender or other antispyware programs. For more information, see How to tell if your computer is infected with spyware.

The best way to deal with viruses is to prevent them in the first place. Always run antivirus software and keep it up to date. Even if you take such precautions, however, it's possible for your PC to become infected.

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