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Microsoft Previews Windows 8 for Tablets and PCs
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Lol - I hope this post was sarcasm.
Microsoft doesn't get it. It's all about user experience - not specs.
Microsoft is throwing everything into windows 8 in an attempt to commoditize everything ios has innovated the past few years.
Windows 8, as demonstrated, shows that Microsoft doesn't truly understand why the iPad has been successful.
When push comes to shove, iOS will be superior for tablet devices as it will require less resources, offer superior battery life, and as HW and SW capabilities expand, offer support for more extensive applications.
All that being said, I think windows 8 offers the potential for more compelling PC designs.
Microsoft doesn't get it. It's all about user experience - not specs.
Microsoft is throwing everything into windows 8 in an attempt to commoditize everything ios has innovated the past few years.
Windows 8, as demonstrated, shows that Microsoft doesn't truly understand why the iPad has been successful.
When push comes to shove, iOS will be superior for tablet devices as it will require less resources, offer superior battery life, and as HW and SW capabilities expand, offer support for more extensive applications.
All that being said, I think windows 8 offers the potential for more compelling PC designs.
As a design engineer myself I always have to remind myself that the best part is no part, the best feature is no feature.
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Somehow, I have the feeling that you wouldn't like whatever that video showed.
I wonder if you know that macs are engineered on windows workstations...
There is no "iPhone 4 fiasco."
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/0...rankings-of-smartphone-consumer-satisfaction/
And suckers believe a survey conducted by HTC?
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/13/survey-suggests-unprecedented-demand-for-iphone-5/
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/09/13/iphone-4-sales-still-strong/
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...smartphone_despite_growing_iphone_5_hype.html
It's not just me.
Steve? Is that you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U
It actually came true the very day that Steve Jobs demoed it. And we're seeing MS react to that very revolution as we type on this forum. And react rather poorly.
It is intensely satisfying to see that Apple's tremendous successes have driven certain types of people absolutely bat-**** insane.
That line of thought can be applied to so many other things too (think it is called elegance).
32-bit. So far, so good. I am liking it. I'll write a blog post of the installation procedure.
A bit OT, but I can install this on an external drive right(like an 8-12gb flash drive)? I want to try this on my MBP, but I am sort of low on space, nor does my OD work.
Well, the Big Mac is one of the best selling burgers in the world. But that doesn't make it the best.
I acknowledge that the iPhone 4 sales are impressive. But what is the reason? I believe the iPhone 4 sells well because it's pretty. That's what Apple does best. I admit that. They know how to make things look pretty. But they're poor at delivering specs.
There are phones in the market that have better specs but I guess people would rather pick a phone that looks prettier than one that has awesome features.
No point in wasting the time to do it. They know the files will be uploaded to torrent sites shortly by everyone else.
The iPhone 4 is one of two phones that command nearly 30% of the market against a veritable ocean of Android phones at all price points, a lot of it being junk. even the lowly 3GS outsells a lot of newer Android models.
Apple has nailed the synergy between hardware and software.
One day you will learn (as the competition is, especially in the tablet segment) that USER EXPERIENCE trumps specs.
"User Experience" is hard to quantify (it has very little to do with raw specs) but easy to recognize. Hence, the general consumer response to Apple products. Ask anyone what this means exactly, and they will probably find it difficult to articulate. But they are nonetheless drawn to it. It's recognizable.
The closest approximation is what results from the synergy between hardware and software. Apple's nailed it.
Sounds nice to me. It's partially a "commoditization" but also an innovation since it adds another option for customers.
Apple's business model is based on building multiple devices as a hardware maker.
Microsoft as a software maker wants to sell software and supporting multiple hardware is a matter of survival. On this forum I read often we are living in a post-PC era. So MS have to change its model as PCs tend to disappear.
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But how can you provide excellent user experience without proper specs? One of the iPad's biggest shortcomings is the lack of adequate RAM.
The iPad is successful because it's something new and it's something new from Apple. And there's very little competition. But once Windows 8 comes out it'll change everything because it's unifies two OSes.
A couple of comments:
1. It's obvious that Windows 8 with its Metro UI will be controversial because this is Microsoft's most radical UI change since the arrival of Windows 95. (It should be noted that the basics of the UI from Windows 95 to Windows 7 has not significantly changed, especially with the default Task Bar setup on the bottom of the screen with the Start button on the very left, program launch icons just to the right, and system status icons on the right side.) The UI has been designed to use full multitouch touchscreen functionality, so Windows 8 can run on tablet computers easily without needing a stylus.
2. I myself expect Microsoft to ship three different versions of Windows 8:
Home--your choice of Metro or Windows 7 UI, with the default to the Metro UI. This will be the most common version for desktop and laptop computers.
Professional--will default to Windows 7 UI (with the option for the Metro UI), and adds extra functions designed for business users, especially with disk security and connections to corporate networks.
Tablet--Metro UI only, designed to work with tablet computers running ARM architecture or the new generation of very low power Intel x86-64 CPU's.
3. I think people should actually try out the Metro interface before they criticize it. It's possible that Metro could be surprisingly good interface for a tablet computer, since Microsoft probably closely studied how Apple implements the interface in iOS for the iPad and made a number of possible improvements.
1. It's obvious that Windows 8 with its Metro UI will be controversial because this is Microsoft's most radical UI change since the arrival of Windows 95. (It should be noted that the basics of the UI from Windows 95 to Windows 7 has not significantly changed, especially with the default Task Bar setup on the bottom of the screen with the Start button on the very left, program launch icons just to the right, and system status icons on the right side.) The UI has been designed to use full multitouch touchscreen functionality, so Windows 8 can run on tablet computers easily without needing a stylus.
2. I myself expect Microsoft to ship three different versions of Windows 8:
Home--your choice of Metro or Windows 7 UI, with the default to the Metro UI. This will be the most common version for desktop and laptop computers.
Professional--will default to Windows 7 UI (with the option for the Metro UI), and adds extra functions designed for business users, especially with disk security and connections to corporate networks.
Tablet--Metro UI only, designed to work with tablet computers running ARM architecture or the new generation of very low power Intel x86-64 CPU's.
3. I think people should actually try out the Metro interface before they criticize it. It's possible that Metro could be surprisingly good interface for a tablet computer, since Microsoft probably closely studied how Apple implements the interface in iOS for the iPad and made a number of possible improvements.
You simply don't get it. Specs mean very little if they are hampered with other inefficiencies. For example:
http://www.iphone-my.com/news/ipad-2-runs-webos-fast-touchpad-internal-hp-testing-revealed/ [HP found that WebOS runs better on the iPad 2 than on their own Touchpad hardware]
If it's under specced but actually performs its function more efficiently, it is better. This is why the simpler, lower specced, ATV2 and Roku are far better than the Logitech Revue or Boxee box for most users.
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That's a good point, and MS provides the hashes so you can confirm the authenticity.
I wouldn't call it an innovation - it's years late to the game which iOS innovated.
It gives more choice to hardware designers to create compelling hardware - unfortunately none of the pc vendors seems capable of creating compelling well designed hardware.
It gives more choice to hardware designers to create compelling hardware - unfortunately none of the pc vendors seems capable of creating compelling well designed hardware.
I've added a blog post of picture of Windows 8, if anyone's interested.
http://www.shamil.la/2011/09/a-first-look-at-windows-8/
http://www.shamil.la/2011/09/a-first-look-at-windows-8/
Ding ding ding. And one day you will see why the x86 move was the wrong move because it really takes away from the user experience and lacks innovation PPC has, and ARM also has/will have.
Microsoft may have sunk a ton of R&D into their UI, but it appears they are hedging their bets with it.
We have yet to see how well metro will run on arm based tablets.
We have yet to see how well metro will run on arm based tablets.
windows 8 actually makes me want to clamour for a microsoft tablet. tiles and their method of running apps side-by-side is a pure win.
take a pointer from apple though: don't make people wait a year when you've announced such an awesome OS! and please emphasize battery life to your hardware partners!
take a pointer from apple though: don't make people wait a year when you've announced such an awesome OS! and please emphasize battery life to your hardware partners!
...imagine that...
Unrestricted downloads of the preview.
It's a breath of fresh air compared to the paranoid secretiveness of another computer/software vendor.
Downloading now for my multi-touch x64 tablet - Yes!
Please note that it was an "x64 move", which with Apple OSX 10.7 is now complete.
Unrestricted downloads of the preview.
It's a breath of fresh air compared to the paranoid secretiveness of another computer/software vendor.
Downloading now for my multi-touch x64 tablet - Yes!
Please note that it was an "x64 move", which with Apple OSX 10.7 is now complete.
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