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Microsoft Purchases Nokia's Device and Services Division to Unite Windows Phone Hardware and Software

smoledman said:
What crashing? My experience with Windows Phone 7.0/7.5/8.0 has been one of utter stability. Maybe 2 crashes in 18 months.
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Your phone is doing better than my iPhone! (4S, 64gb, latest FW, not JB)
That thing crashes once a month, including a crazy bug where it sometimes doesn't hang up a call. I have to shut my phone down to fix it.

I'm interested to see what comes of this. My girlfriend has a Windows/Nokia phone from last year and it's a sweet little phone.
 
Fish or Cut Bait?

This is kind of fish or cut bait for Microsoft. If they can't execute a proven (by Apple) strategy of harmonizing hardware and software it will reveal the basic problem to be their capability, not their vision or lack of it that has caused them to stagnate.
 
CTHarrryH said:
To me it is another example of Microsoft really not being able to innovate by themselves. It always seems as if they only succeed with their third or fourth try after the rest of the world has shown the way.

I wish them well - I personally won't be buying a Windows phone anyway but competition is always good in the market.

Interesting to see what the Windows phone will look like in 2-3 years because it will take that long to really integrate and come out with an actually new product
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and how is this different from apple?
 
Breaking Good said:
I predict that Microsoft will buy Dell within six months and HP/Compaq will move to Linux servers, Google Chrome O/S personal computers and Android tablets.

Lenovo, Acer and Asus will fight it out at the low end of the PC market while Dell (after it is rebranded under Microsoft) will focus on high end devices that compete directly with Apple's MacBooks, iMacs, Mac mini's and Mac Pros.
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Isn't Microsoft too big as it is now? I've seen some suggestions that the company needs to be split up. With the Nokia acquisition Microsoft now has over 130,000 employees. :eek:
 
Everyone should have seen this coming a mile away. Stephen Elop, the former head of Microsoft's business division, becomes CEO of Nokia, and within a month they are developing Windows phones exclusively, the share price gets cut by half, and within two years, the former lead mobile hardware manufacturer is a Microsoft property, and Elop is rejoining MS as the VP of devices & services. Amazing.
 
juanmanas said:
Good one. I must be one of the only ones who doesnt get the Tile thing. For me its just a messy collection of irregularly shaped icons.
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Nope, me too. I had widgets on Android. Horrible experience there too....

Say you see someone's update on Facebook. Poof it's gone and you're trying to get it back.

Say you are looking at pics on that tile and poof they are gone. WTF.

Not to mention they were almost always behind in updating so you ended up in the app anyway.

Tiles, widgets, etc are horrible in most circumstances. They excel for static data like speed dials and turning stuff on/off but for dynamic data, they are an utter fail at every level.

And I think MS buying Nokia is stupid - it worked so well when they bought Danger. The Surface Debacle should show that people don't want Windows or Microsoft when they feel they have a choice. And apparently the stock market agrees with me as MSFT is down amost 5% on open.
 
paulsdenton said:
This is kind of fish or cut bait for Microsoft. If they can't execute a proven (by Apple) strategy of harmonizing hardware and software it will reveal the basic problem to be their capability, not their vision or lack of it that has caused them to stagnate.
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I still am curious why Microsoft thinks it needs to be a hardware company. :confused:
 
Rogifan said:
Isn't Microsoft too big as it is now? I've seen some suggestions that the company needs to be split up. With the Nokia acquisition Microsoft now has over 130,000 employees. :eek:
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I also predict in twelve months they will be shedding at least 30,000 positions.
 
and....

smoledman said:
This is HUGE news. I always wanted Microsoft to buy the relevant smartphone pieces of Nokia and it's happened for a reasonable price($7.17 billion). Now MSFT is a fully vertically integrated smartphone maker along with Apple/Google.
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You sound excited mind telling us why this is good other than being "fully integrated"?
 
:( sad to see nokia going down this pathway. nokia won't be on my list when i'm getting a new phone then....gonna away from microsoft as much as i can, had enough of its bs previously.

i wish they had made android phones (iOS would be ideal, but that's not even plausible). tho i'm not a big fan of android, i would still consider them just because nokia has a reputation of building solid phones.
 
it's not about acquiring different brands, it's about how you run those brands after acquiring them. everyone knows that yahoo acquired lots of products in the past, but the thing is, most of those products failed and got abandoned (and that caused a huge loss, billions)
 
greenmeanie said:
If microsoft could get some apps in their store I might actually make the switch. I actually like the surface pro too.
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How about making their app store usable? It's just a mish-mosh of colored tiles that makes it practically impossible to find anything (at least on Windows 8).

Lately, I considered a Windows phone for a professional client of mine who's been having issues with her iPhone not correctly syncing meeting events on an Exchange server account. Apparently, this is a long time issue that Apple has never fixed and I had read that this issue does not plague Windows phone users. I took one look at the mail app on the Windows phone and immediately dismissed Windows Phone as an option. The OS is very UNprofessional looking, and looks geared towards the younger, social media-minded consumer. MS really needs to make the OS more corporate friendly if they want to sell these things. People don't keep a phone for work and a phone for play...they need a phone they can do both.
 
Rogifan said:
I still am curious why Microsoft thinks it needs to be a hardware company. :confused:
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Well, the software only part as far as the phone is concerned hasn't worked very well. Android and IOS rule the roost. Apple has proven (as far as I am concerned) that hardware and software integration are critical to success. They pretty much blew it with their foray into tablets, but I really think that the phone offers them a chance at redemption. The market is immense and growing. Apple already ruled the tablet market, no room to grow.

I have a Windows 8 computer and I kind of like the idea of the tiles, but it is really hard to use; the UI is obscure. As a software only company they haven't shined recently except for the residual success of Office, which really is good.

They have to try SOMETHING. If they can get Windows Phone right on a compatible platform it will be a start.
 
Renzatic said:
Doubt it. WP has been growing slowly and steadily since it first came out a couple years back. If MS can keep things going smoothly, they'll have their own goodly sized chunk of the marketplace by 2015, I think.
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By 2015 they might reach 5% of the market at the rate of growth they're experiencing now! (That is if they are still sustainable by 2015.)
 
This is a big deal, Microsoft is really trying hard. Will wait to see how this turns out. Competition is a good thing.
 
Seems to make sense. They are both backed deep into a corner in mobile. Maybe (just maybe) they can flight their way out together.

I have my doubts though. A coworker wanted to get a smart phone and his #1 concern was the camera. I told him to check out the latest lumia. He loved the camera but once he found out it "doesn't have JavaScript" (by which he means Java by which he means Android apps) he was afraid it wouldn't have the apps we wants.

If you can't sell a lumia to a guy who mainly wants a camera with some smart phone functions you might not make it.
 
I just sat down to watch the 2009 Star Trek and there's a future Nokia phone integrated into the corvette that the young Kirk is joyriding in.

I guess that must be due to the alternate reality. *sniff* no more Nokia, this is a sad day.
 
paulsdenton said:
They have to try SOMETHING. If they can get Windows Phone right on a compatible platform it will be a start.
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They should try LISTENING to their customers for a start!! Windows 8 was not well received because (amongst other reasons) the Start Menu was taken away. EVERYONE wanted it back, but here we are at Windows 8.1 and instead of a Start Menu, we get a Start Button that does nothing. Why not just give the option to have it back? Stubborn they are!

Microsoft needs to listen better, and maybe people will buy it.
 
Mad Mac Maniac said:
And excuse my ignorance but... Nokia has something besides a devices and services division? Without their Nokia phone business what is Nokia left with?
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If they don't have the tires business anymore, they can go back to it :)

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Z400Racer37 said:
Ohh isn't that cute, look at them trying...

They should come out with their own stores while they're at it! Wait...
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Iphone 5C is cute and trying. Nokia + Microsoft if played right could be huge. Apple is yet to build a handset that is as durable previous Nokia handsets.
 
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