The simple fact that Windows phones dies is that M$ haven't found some gigantic phone makers to help with Windows Mobile's growth. M$ can find Samsung and persuade them to make more Windows Mobile phones. However even Sammy now only have one Windows 8 phone model in production.
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Microsoft Purchases Nokia's Device and Services Division to Unite Windows Phone Hardware and Software
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What's your problem? I said Start MENU, not Start Button!!
You push a Start BUTTON and in Windows 7 you get a Start MENU. Windows 8 you get your Start Screen. Big difference.
My OS X mail has a thumbs up and down botton. It will learn which are junk and not. Takes about a week or 2 but it's good once you get it dialed in.
Command-A to select all, Delete Key. Easy Peasy.
I have a Blackberry Bold that I carry when on call. The e-mail app sucks on that. No way to select messages to delete - you must do it one by one. I wouldn't use BB as the gold standard as it is lacking today.
Cause you can search? Much easier to search on what you are looking for rather than remember where it is in the list.
I thought that was a feature of Mail App in Mountain Lion. Useless for home users. And corporate users typically use Outlook, Lotus Notes, or Groupwise which have that as an option.
Your problem is GoDaddy - crap company. I use HostMonster and it works 100% with IMAP on Apple mail both Desktop and iOS.
WTF are you talking about. Windows Phone is not ugly, it might be ulgy for you, but certianly not ugly for some other people. I love the live title for both Windows Phone and Windows 8. The uguly Live tile doesn't hurt xBox sales.
App situation is getting better. When Microsoft merge Windows RT and Windows Phone, all those Metro App runs on Windows 8 will certianlly run on Windows Phone.
Buying Nokia will help Microsoft making its own phones, just like Apple makes its own iPhones.
A LOT of people said XBox will flop compared to PS2 and Nintendo.
XBox also had serious quality issues.
Today XBox is the dominant console.
I expect MS will spare no resource to make WinPhone and its tablets highly competitive, as everyone knows PC's are no longer a growth business.
MS still has the resources and now with Nokia they have the vertical integration (like Apple and Google) and could significantly under price their phones to undercut the competition, a loss leader to gain market (pull all stops to become a viable platform and attract developers, especially with iOS and Android so dominant)
I would not be surprised if MS teams up or buy a significant share of Amazon to get the eco system they need.
The writing is on the wall, MS now knows the old model of just OS licensing is no longer sustainable. MS has seen Mac sales grow when PC sales shrink. MS is the process of a massive change in strategy, and Win8, though fraught with growing pains, will get better.
XBox also had serious quality issues.
Today XBox is the dominant console.
I expect MS will spare no resource to make WinPhone and its tablets highly competitive, as everyone knows PC's are no longer a growth business.
MS still has the resources and now with Nokia they have the vertical integration (like Apple and Google) and could significantly under price their phones to undercut the competition, a loss leader to gain market (pull all stops to become a viable platform and attract developers, especially with iOS and Android so dominant)
I would not be surprised if MS teams up or buy a significant share of Amazon to get the eco system they need.
The writing is on the wall, MS now knows the old model of just OS licensing is no longer sustainable. MS has seen Mac sales grow when PC sales shrink. MS is the process of a massive change in strategy, and Win8, though fraught with growing pains, will get better.
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you know nothing about CH, do you? it is not only that Swatch is hated down here, it is also not the biggest company in terms if volumes and/or influence. You should mention Nestle or Novartis or other multinationals based in Switzerland.
Talking to the erosion of brands, I have to remind you Nokia selling Security Appliances business to Check Point some time ago. 50% of Nokia guys were slashed there during the first year.
One does not sell a successful business. Nokia was going down with the phones, and the spiral fall is only starting with that deal.
This is stupid
I see lots of comments on here about how this is a smart move for Microsoft, but frankly the more they plow into the devices business the more traction they seem to lose.
Microsoft is not good at hardware, the only successful hardware platform they have is the Xbox, and they eat a loss on every console sold. For Microsoft it has always been about the software.
And Microsoft missed with Windows 8. All that design and innovation and polish murdered by the marketing department and suits is so close but so far to a really interesting user experience. They need to fix that, not double-down on stupid buying more companies.
The real tectonic shift for Microsoft would be to pick its battles, instead of fighting every front. Instead of saying 'Why don't we make handsets?' the sharp suit would be asking 'Why the heck are we still in search?' Indeed, while Microsoft was busy burning up truckloads of cash fighting the 'last war' with Google (and losing badly, still losing badly) they got run out of the mobile OS business despite having a 60% share of true smartphones - because they were not paying attention to it.
And to get smoked like that by a touchscreen interface, when Microsoft had been tinkering with touchscreen tables, tablets, screens, etc. for years (but never releasing a product) shows where their problems really are - and it is not lack of a handset maker.
Again, this is just stupid long-term.
I see lots of comments on here about how this is a smart move for Microsoft, but frankly the more they plow into the devices business the more traction they seem to lose.
Microsoft is not good at hardware, the only successful hardware platform they have is the Xbox, and they eat a loss on every console sold. For Microsoft it has always been about the software.
And Microsoft missed with Windows 8. All that design and innovation and polish murdered by the marketing department and suits is so close but so far to a really interesting user experience. They need to fix that, not double-down on stupid buying more companies.
The real tectonic shift for Microsoft would be to pick its battles, instead of fighting every front. Instead of saying 'Why don't we make handsets?' the sharp suit would be asking 'Why the heck are we still in search?' Indeed, while Microsoft was busy burning up truckloads of cash fighting the 'last war' with Google (and losing badly, still losing badly) they got run out of the mobile OS business despite having a 60% share of true smartphones - because they were not paying attention to it.
And to get smoked like that by a touchscreen interface, when Microsoft had been tinkering with touchscreen tables, tablets, screens, etc. for years (but never releasing a product) shows where their problems really are - and it is not lack of a handset maker.
Again, this is just stupid long-term.
well, nokia was only producing windows phones, even if microsoft didn't bought nokia they would still be an indirect owner of nokia.
I know most MS fans think its crazy, but I think they should spin of the devices part of the company. Microsoft is too big and too complex. Buying Nokia doesn't make them less complex or less bloated. Now they just added 30K employees on top of the 100K they already have. And for what exactly?
Lol do you know whats ugly? ios6 and the sequel copy of android you call ios7 with its horrible icons.
Windows phone is the most beautiful OS and refreshingly new.
Windows 8 was an strategic effort to broaden Microsofts desktop monopoly onto touchscreen devices. A classic Microsoft move, like so many before. Like when they used their operating system to push their web browser and their media player. Familiarity with Windows 7 and earlier was never a goal in the development of Windows 8. The thing they wanted to fix was not Windows 7 but the iPad market growth.
If successful Windows 8 would have sucked all the steam out of the tablet market and make tablets just another form factor of Windows PCs. Nothing more like desktops and laptops. It didn't work. Windows 8 added touchscreens to Windows laptops, but it didn't gain them share in the tablet market with Surface-like devices. Android as a free alternative makes Windows irrelevant for thrid-party device manufacturers. Its just another cost position they can spare. So now they themselves need to become the device manufacturer to push their own system into the market.
Answered.I still am curious why Microsoft thinks it needs to be a hardware company.
Microsoft shares down by almost 5%. Guess that market didn't like the move.
It makes sense because MS didn't acquire a successful phone company. It bought a company which it had to give millions of dollars of subsidy just to keep it afloat and that even after that company sold its headquarters. It means that now MS has to give even more money into that division to keep afloat further. After a while, it will merge its devices operations with Nokia hardware business and will cut thousands of people. Still it will bleed money because market has rejected MS software on smartphones and tablets and now even less will be the choice for WP hardware which in turn will make it sell even less. At some point, MS will exit smartphone business altogether to concentrate on remains of its PC business which by that time will be eaten alive by Android desktops and tablets (Apple will not be market leading but profit-leading again). Thats' how it will end. Bye bye Nokia and Windows Phone OS.
It makes sense because MS didn't acquire a successful phone company. It bought a company which it had to give millions of dollars of subsidy just to keep it afloat and that even after that company sold its headquarters. It means that now MS has to give even more money into that division to keep afloat further. After a while, it will merge its devices operations with Nokia hardware business and will cut thousands of people. Still it will bleed money because market has rejected MS software on smartphones and tablets and now even less will be the choice for WP hardware which in turn will make it sell even less. At some point, MS will exit smartphone business altogether to concentrate on remains of its PC business which by that time will be eaten alive by Android desktops and tablets (Apple will not be market leading but profit-leading again). Thats' how it will end. Bye bye Nokia and Windows Phone OS.
Exactly.
Why purchase the cow when you are already getting the milk?
This doesn't speed anything up. Microsoft already hast strict requirements for windows phone.
So the Swiss hate Swatch? I thought it was a national icon, that's surprising
By eroded brand I meant MS. With phones Nokia's been flirting with recovery since late last year, going back and forth between profitability and operating loss. They were gaining traction and would've eventually succeeded, esp with WP8 penetration rising and Nokia evolving to dominate WP8 handsets.
To me it looks like a ploy to get Elop in place
Bit of revisionist history there. The PS2 was dominant vs the original Xbox. Every original Xbox MS sold was at a loss. XBox only gained ground when Sony botched the PS3 launch by overpricing and having no compelling launch titles. And even then its games sales that dominant, not consoles. Both Sony and MS recently reported sales since inception of their respective console to be around 78m units worldwide.
So for your analogy to really work Apple and Android tablet makers will have to drastically increase the price of the next devices or do something significant to make them unpalatable to the point a significant % of the general public would abandon their iOS or Android media portfolio & platform knowledge to go to a MS tablet.
You overstate Samsung's strengths. Most of its parts come from third party manufacturers that can offer similar prices to Google and others. Google controls the software that differentiates the phone from others. That is why Samsung will move to Tizen (based on Android) to get away from Google's control. As this happens with other manufacturers - you WILL see Motorola become the Nexus line because Google can control the environment. Samsung will not want to be the phone platform that is a step behind in the Android updates - so it will have to move to Tizen.
Most of the parts supply chain is commodity - so Motorola through Google can get advantageous pricing as well.
I fail to see the point of this acquisition. Microsoft already essentially "owned" Nokia. Not only was a Microsoft mole at their head (Elop), but they were exclusive to Microsoft software. What is the gain here?
The loss is the sure abandonment of Windows Phone by other hardware manufacturers.
Oh, and I see the Microsoft astroturfers have been mobilized for this thread. Some of these ringing endorsements of Windows Phone smell suspiciously like press releases and PR copy.
The loss is the sure abandonment of Windows Phone by other hardware manufacturers.
Oh, and I see the Microsoft astroturfers have been mobilized for this thread. Some of these ringing endorsements of Windows Phone smell suspiciously like press releases and PR copy.
Woah! That is huge news. First Google, now Microsoft. Companies are really starting to realize that tight hardware/software integration is incredibly important.
Great! Now get to work. Oh, and fix this mess.
You rant about a box and then you don't even show a pic of it. FYI all phones used to be branded by the carriers. Nokia is an old player in the game so this is how they always give the phones to the carriers. Wouldn't surprise this is part of an old contract w att that is still active so they have to carrier brand the box. Anyways it seems you return the phone because of the box? I don't think you understand unboxing videos... They are not about the box being 'pretty'.
A couple things in response. The Apple Mail I'm referring to is the ios version not OS X. I used the desktop version years ago but stopped because it had issues of using GoDaddy POP mail.
And yes GoDaddy was a problem for some time. They used to be really good about 8 years ago and I had to have a domain name for my website/blog. It was cheap at the time and still is, tying the domain name to my squarespace powered blog.
But I'm trying to find a good email host that will work on my ios mail app, or future handsets to upgrade to. Host monster is one idea but I would have to transfer my domain name and open a new account for IMAP unless their POP works well.
I'm using iphone4 because I'm on a special data only plan for deaf and hard of hearing people with a flat monthly rate.
I don't use the Rules preference since its not needed. Maybe in a corporate office setting, that would make sense. But for a freelancer, probably not.
As for BB, I knew many deaf people used it back then on the special data plan and the messenger was fantastic to communicate back and forth with. Was it sluggish? Sure but the last model I had was the Style with a trackpad. Really nice and sturdy build. The keyboard was great as I could feel my way around it as I was trained to "touch type" way back in high school. The best BB I owned before the iPhone 4.
I kind of hoped that Apple would make the phone wider to give more room for their keyboard design, spacing out the keys. But noooo, they had to keep it homogenized.
I have big gamer thumbs. Did they ever take that into account when designing the virtual keys or did they think all men had effeminate fingers? What the-??
Still, I think Microsoft, with the new CEO in the future, may be able to stay competitive. With Gates overseeing the CEO search, they may find the right man or woman.
No it's nothing like that. As an example please review the iTunes enabled Motorola ROKR fiasco. Just because a company has a partner doesn't mean it can dictate every turn to them. The partner is still independent and also responsible to their stockholders and business plans, not the other company's. There is a world of difference between partnering with a company and owning it.
Another example in the news recently is VZ's buyout of Vodafone's VZW's shares. Even before the buyout VZ had controlling shares, but owning VZW outright gives it much more operational flexibility.