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Well, first off it's a culture. Showing up with your PS3 at a hardcore gamer gathering is kind of like trying to join Hells Angels because you have a Kawasaki 125cc scooter.

Secondly, there are plenty of dedicated gaming notebooks these days (AlienWare, Dell XPS etc). Last time I checked, they don't do PS3 laptops.

Please, please ... don't start a PC gaming vs Console gaming argument in a Mac vs PC thread, I don't think the Macrumors server will be able to cope.

Seriously.
 
Anyone else catch that the processor is "Centrino" these are the bottom of the barrel mobile processors... not the high end neehlam or Penryin processors Apple has been using lately. Not to mention its DDR2 memory not DDR3 and the graphics are crap...

Like so many that have chimed in here, you are spouting uninformed nonsense.

"Centrino" (in this case Centrino 2) is an Intel marketing brand that means that the machine uses both a Core 2 Duo cpu (the same cpus found in the macbook/macbook pro) and a next-gen Intel Wireless chipset. They are all Penryn-based cpus.

Nehalem (which is what I think you were trying to spell) is available only in the Mac Pro, not in the iMac and certainly not in any laptop anywhere.

Perhaps you should also look into the fact that when paired with C2D chipsets there is next to no performance benefit when using DDR3 vs. DDR2 (but there is a higher cost).

All that being said, I feel this ad is not as good as the first. The guy's comments are contradictory and nonsensical. With less than $1,000 there are lots of great Dell models I would recommend to friends. With $1,500 to spend, I would always recommend an Alu Macbook and an oem copy of Vista (or better yet just run OS X for a few months until Win7 is available). Always good for people to get a feel for OS X and they might just even like it and not need to spend money on Windoze.
 
HP computers suck

"I'm a PC because I'm a douchbag who likes crappy software, even crappier hardware, and horrible/barely-existent tech support"
 
Secondly, there are plenty of dedicated gaming notebooks these days (AlienWare, Dell XPS etc). Last time I checked, they don't do PS3 laptops.

True, but the further I get away from the age of 14, the less important this seems! :D (And not to date myself, but when I was 14, we were ooooing and ahhhing over Atari!)
 
Well, first off it's a culture. Showing up with your PS3 at a hardcore gamer gathering is kind of like trying to join Hells Angels because you have a Kawasaki 125cc scooter.

Secondly, there are plenty of dedicated gaming notebooks these days (AlienWare, Dell XPS etc). Last time I checked, they don't do PS3 laptops.

You're pretty good at those "Motor vehicle" analogies aren't you?
 
768p is a standard HDTV resolution.

That's odd. I always thought that 1366x768 (a.k.a. WXGA) was just the bastard child of 720p (1280x720 which is an HD standard) and good old XGA 1024x768. Seems really odd to me since it doesn't scale any standard resolution (480p, 720p, 1080i) particularly well.

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Please, please ... don't start a PC gaming vs Console gaming argument in a Mac vs PC thread, I don't think the Macrumors server will be able to cope.

Seriously.
It started some 20 pages before I even got here, the server seems to be coping fine, and furthermore I was just pointing out that the console argument is moot if you want to be mobile and not tethered to your TV.
 
You're pretty good at those "Motor vehicle" analogies aren't you?
Yeah, it seems to be a popular way of getting your point across on MacRumors. I gathered this from having read 30,000 variations on the "Mac = German premium car, PC = Honda" analogy over the years.
That's odd. I always thought that 1366x768 (a.k.a. WXGA) was just the bastard child of 720p (1280x720 which is an HD standard) and good old XGA 1024x768. Seems really odd to me since it doesn't scale any standard resolution (480p, 720p, 1080i) particularly well.

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Yup... beats me. There are tons of those 1366x768 TVs, I have a 40" one in my living room. I have no idea why they make them, since they've known all along that HD is all about 720 and 1080.
 
It started some 20 pages before I even got here, the server seems to be coping fine, and furthermore I was just pointing out that the console argument is moot if you want to be mobile and not tethered to your TV.

Actually, no, the console vs PC gaming argument never actually started. Somebody made a comment, it was promptly ignored by everyone.

Thanks for bringing it up yet again.
 
I use to have an Acer Laptop before the MBP. That thing was ok, but I couldnt do half of the stuff that my MBP can do out of the box. Sure there is a $2000 and 3 year difference between the 2, but the MBP wins hands down every time because its...

1. Its a lot stronger than the plastic Acer
2. It doesnt make you feel like your pants are gonna burn up from the heat from the cooling fans
3. It doesnt crash
4. It does not need an Anti-Virus program
5. Apple has way better service and support
6. I have not turned on my tower PC in over a month because I can do everything and more with my MBP than I could do with both PC laptop and PC tower combined!!! :eek:
7. Mac OS X runs so much smoother than Windows I wont go back.

In saying that, I refuse to even install Windows OS. If I absolutely have to for some strange reason then I will. Hopefully if that time ever comes I will have an iMac or Mac Pro heck even maybe another MBP. I want to dump the PC tower out of the office, but the problem is I cant get rid of the darn thing...

BTW... the Acer Laptop I had. Well the HDD crapped out. It mechanically failed and I had to replace the HDD. At that time I had it for maybe a year and a half.


On another side note. Yes, these commercials seem to call out to the unaware consumer that wants a computer. A lot of people do look at price and what brand (PC). Remember the Dell commercials? Everyone (including me) ran around and said "DUDE YOUR GETTING A DELL" just because it was catchy line. But it sold computers. I remember looking at the Dell XPS line of computers because they were targeted for the Gamer. Yeah, you guessed it. Those computers didnt cost that much less than a Mac.
 
The fact that Microsoft is even willing to admit it's "cool to have a Mac" clearly demonstrates there's nobody home in either their BoD or their marketing department. (Much less the rest of the company.)

Be greatful: Steve's doing a wonderful job of driving Microsoft into the ground. (UsedCarSalesmanSteve, that is.)

It should be not just clear but obvious that Microsoft not only doesn't have a clue, but that it doesn't really feel it needs to give a s***, either, where customers are concerned. They just want to suck 'em up and keep 'em from everyone else.

Whether it's by Apple's or the F/OSS movement's hand (or a combination of both) I personally can't wait for the day when Microsoft collapses like the Black Tower at Barad-dûr. I will be cheering and hope to be pouring out a round of beer for my friends so we can celebrate.
 
Uh, because their customers need different types of computers that they refuse to build. So they lose lots of sales to people who get PCs and hack them.

I doubt they lose all that many sales to the hackentosh clan. Even so, I'm sure the business team there has crunched the numbers and determined that the amount of profit lost by offering a lower point of entry would be greater than the sales lost to hackentoch users.

How many ten of thousands of monitor sales has Apple lost to Dell, HP or NEC because they refuse to update their prehistoric ACD line ?

Probably a few, though I doubt their monitor division is the lifeblood of the company. Very few people, even the Mac loyalists, will say that the ADC is a good value for money. The only reason I have one is that I am obsessed with aesthetics and it matched the Mac Pro.

Also, the line has been updated. Its happened when the MacBooks and MBPs were updated to the unibody design.

Pride goeth before a fall.

Perhaps, but they aren't anywhere near the fall. Numbers don't lie, and the numbers are on Apple's side right now. They have the highest stock price and are growing market share, even in a down economy. Like or not, their business model works - arguably better than their competitors models do.
 
While professionals want bigger screens for the higher resolution, consumers want bigger screens simply to have a bigger picture. You even hear people asking "why pay $1800 for a 30" display when you can get a 42" LCD TV for much less?" I'm on a 15.4", 1680x1050 myself, and everyone who sees it and isn't a graphic designer or a programmer invariably says "OMFG that's soooooo smaaaaaaall, how can you work with that?!?!"

That's precisely because you are running the Windows. The icons/fonts on windows are always not optimized for the highest screen resolution. I still remember the old days, even thought all displays had a native resolution of 1280x1024, everyone had to lower it to 1024x768 just for the XP desktop to look normal. All icons and fonts on OS X, on the other hand, are perfectly sized for the native resolution of the display.
 
Even if you're an actor, you should be aware if what they want you to say is going to make you look like a douchebag.

Okay let's see here... *reads over script*... "portability, battery life, power," "Macs to me are about aesthetics more than they are the computing power," ...okay but I haven't looked at the specs yet right? Oh I don't look at the specs? I just assume it's "too sexy" then I look at the HP's specs? You're the boss...
 
It started some 20 pages before I even got here, the server seems to be coping fine, and furthermore I was just pointing out that the console argument is moot if you want to be mobile and not tethered to your TV.

In fairness, I stopped gaming only this generation after becoming completely and utterly bored with the repetitive nature of the industry these days.

Console gaming has surpassed PC gaming, there's no denying that. The sales figures for console gaming continue to grow at an alarming rate annually, surpassing the movie industry regardless of whatever Blockbuster is released.

That's the facts.

PC gaming has retained it's "underground" appeal, where gamers with eyes only for the PC continue to strive for the greatest "rig" to showcase the latest games. However, consoles like the PlayStation 3 are now beginning to kick into their stride after a slow start, with Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 in particular bringing a new level of graphical splendor to the platform, surpassing anything done on the system previously.

You mentioned being untethered from the television with PC gaming, by which I presume you're referring to a gaming laptop. While the Alienware and Dell gaming laptops (now one and the same right enough) offer great performance, the real performance in Windows gaming comes from a dedicated tower system utilising larger and more powerful GPU cards.

As I said though, it's a more underground culture these days, populated by gamers who simply refuse to touch a console controller despite the consoles becoming more and more powerful with each generation. Yes you can run Call of Duty 4 at ridiculous resolutions on the PC, but when you sit it side by side with a PS3 running at 1080p on a 51" Samsung, the PC version tends to lose out. Gaming has become an entertainment medium, not a bedroom hobby.

Me personally, I got bored after owning all three of the current generation. My Xbox 360 was replaced no less than 6 times, no matter how well I took care of the thing or how well ventilated I kept it, but the games now are the same ones that were fresh on the original PlayStation because we'd never seen them before on a console or in the home.

In 1995 we'd never had Arcade quality visuals or games like Tekken or Ridge Racer in the home. We'd never had a fully 3D environment to explore like we were introduced to in Tomb Raider, and we'd never raced futuristic hovercrafts in weapon-fueled races like we did in WipEout.

Today we're looking at Tekken 6, Ridge Racer 8, Tomb Raider ?, WipEout 4, Resident Evil 5, etc. It's all the same games but with flashier graphics and some online play added along with HD visuals.

Nowadays I'm more focused on Web Design than gaming, but while I believe I've seen it, done it, and worn the t-shirt ... younger gamers are quite rightly lapping the current generation up.
 
I like how in Microsoft's own commercials they say the MacBook is sexy. lol. They should just change their "I'm a PC" ads to say the same thing..

"I'm a PC and i'm either too poor, or do uninformed to own a Mac."
 
So the adds are correct...apple is too expensive for you also?

I can't explain it, but these ads make me want to get a Macbook. I mean, I've wanted one for a while, but these ads give me hope that Apple might respond with some kind of price drop so I'll have a higher chance of being able to get my hands on a Macbook. :D :apple:

Just wondering....
 
768p is a standard HDTV resolution. It's a trend that started with Sony Vaio. HP and Dell have recently caught on. They're putting 16:9 screens on more and more of the consumer notebooks, rather than 16:10. Apparently they've found that a lot of these consumers want to use their laptops to watch movies more than anything else.

These days, if you are getting a HD TV, you want to make sure it's full HD, meaning its resolution should be 1900x1080. Computer displays should usually have a higher resolution if it's larger than 15'.
 
Yeah, it seems to be a popular way of getting your point across on MacRumors. I gathered this from having read 30,000 variations on the "Mac = German premium car, PC = Honda" analogy over the years.

Man dude, you shouldn't use Honda for PC. You're saying they last longer and hold more value over the years. Use like Kia or Hyundai or even American cars.

This whole thing started cuz M$ made a video. It's funny, I used to come from a PC only forum, and recently converted and now people are talking crap on PC. Don't get me wrong, I totally hate PC's.

I sense a rebuttal from Apple coming soon. Preview of commercial maybe WWDC? LOL!
 
I'm currently in film school and we use Macs 24/7.
A friend of mine got an ASUS and a DSLR instead of a Macbook Pro. People need to make certain choices when money's tight and I understand that.
However, two months later, he already formatted his HDD 2 or 3 times because his computer gets slow and sometimes becomes unresponsive after ± 1 month of intense usage. He's using Kaspersky and regularly backs up and clears HDD space. He's now waiting for a good time to sell his ASUS and buy a MBP.
Your hardware is only as good as your OS allows it to be. Vista, unfortunately, is a strong enough reason to save up and buy a Mac.

My own experience is same; I used to own Asus until I needed to update, then did a quick comparison, MacBook was actually cheaper!

A good friend used to have lots of problem with windows machine whether on Toshiba or Acer, machine would crash and loose email and documents. But when he switched over to MacBook, have not hear him say his system died again.

So it's not just about hardware cost, it's more like cost of ownership.
 
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