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Microsoft Releases Second 'Laptop Hunters' Commercial

Goona said:
So let me get this the display on a unibody MacBook is worse than a cheap
Netbook, somehow I find that hard to believe.
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Believe it. It is. I had both showing the same online video feed today whilst watching the Malaysian Grand Prix. The quality of image on the Netbooks screen was more easily visible from more angles than the Macbook. Literally, 5, 10 degrees off perfect, and I couldn't read the macbook screen. It's PATHETIC.

Apple charge premium price, but use bargain basement components.

Oh - and good luck with the DL-DVI adaptor you'll need to make the most of an external display - it's barely fit for purpose.

As a Mac user (specifically for the abilities of Keynote) - I refuse to recommend Mac's to others.
 
Who talks and acts like this ?

Anyone with an ounce of brain matter can tell that these "candid" commercials featuring "real" people are scripted. No one acts and talks like the people in these commercials do.
 
Interesting that they send him to the Sony Style store in Costa Mesa first but he doesn't mention he is "just not cool enough to be a VAIO person" while driving away!

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Filmed in Orange County and he buys from Fry's Electronics in Fountain Valley with all their "knowledgeable" employees providing the specifications! :p:p
 
BenRoethig said:
Take away the all the iMacs except for the highest end 24" model and you'll have a good idea in what kind of position a lot of laptop buyers are in. Not everybody needs the highest end most premium laptop. If you want a screen above 13" that's what exactly what Apple requires you get.
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And some people want a premium laptop, hence why we have purchased bonafide Apple machines instead of building hackintoshes as our main OS X box (in most cases).

true, premium is suggestive, and for everyone it will be different, but thats for the consumer to decide.

The dot com era showed us that trying to scoop in as many customers at any cost wasn't really a viable strategy, which is what many of the PC manufactures are doing with this "race to the bottom" BS. If you sell your 'low end' product for twenty cents while the guy down the street sells a 'premium' version for five dollars, everyone on the block may buy the low end product, but the reputation will be tarnished if it doesn't stand up.

So far, Apple laptops continue to sell and Apple's value is substantially greater than their highly diversified competition. The consumer has spoken.
 
AidenShaw said:
HP Announces the TouchSmart tx2 Multi-Touch Tablet PC
We now have two multi-touch tablet pcs on the market, with HP bringing the first consumer-focused multi-touch tablet pc, the TouchSmart tx2. The tx2 sports an N-Trig capacitive touch digitizer.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2008/11/18/hp-announces-the-touchsmart-tx2-multi-touch-tablet-pc/


A Touch Of Genius
The Dell Latitude XT2 provides an outstanding tablet experience.

A high-performance system designed with intuitive input capabilities including a capacitive multi-touch screen and pen, the Latitude XT2 can work the way you want. With just a stroke of your fingertips, you can
-scroll through large web pages
-zoom in on graphics, photos or online maps
-enlarge emails to aid reading
-close your screen
-collaborate in real-time
and more

http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/laptop-latitude-xt2?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz​

pwned!

And wait for Windows 7, with native multi-touch support embedded in the core system!
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See you compared a Tablet PC with the trackpad of a mac. So I'll give you half credit because if and when Apple makes a tablet computer, those tablets won't even compare to the multi-touch features the apple tablet will have. Just look at what the iphone/ ipod touch already can do, everything those tablets are describing.
 
Michael CM1 said:
One great way HP slashes the cost on that machine, besides the obvious crap resolution on a 16" display (and not spending money making it lighter), is the RAM. The bus on that system is 1066Mhz, but it uses 667Mhz DDR2 RAM. But the dude wanted a "power" machine, and Macs (with DDR3 memory that runs at 1066Mhz) are mostly design machines.

Take a look at the $1599 MacBook specs. It's pretty darn comparable to that HP model at $1500, especially if you ignore the jacked-up 16" display on the HP. The faster RAM and need to not run all the security software is an instant speed boost. The 2.5 fewer pounds you'll have to carry will save you hundreds in medical bills. :)
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excellent post. the ad guys seems a dimwit from point 0. someone who would miss all these details while he claims to be a power user...:rolleyes:
 
KnightWRX said:
But we aren't allowed to discuss them on a discussion forum ?
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Discuss what?

“PCs are cheaper!” "No, no no PCs are more expensive in the long run!" “PCs suck!” “Macs suck are too expensive!” “oh yeah you suck pal along with your virus infected PCs!”

There I just got through about 95% of this “BS discussion.”

I've seen this two-year-old “discussion” about a million times. :rolleyes:
 
I think these ads are quite funny in the way that they're doing exactly the opposite of what they're meant to do.

They want people to avoid buying Apple, yet they're making Apples computers look good.
 
BVeritas said:
What's Silverlight? We've got Northern Lights and Coors Lite, but I've never heard of Silverlight.
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It's Microsoft latest attempt to proprietize the web, having failed with their stagnant Internet Explorer.

Basically, a Flash replacement that's much more advance on Windows than on other platforms and will always be, making sure that if you want to see sites that use its latest features, you're locked-in to Microsoft's platform.

Business as usual for them actually.

Stevamundo said:
Discuss what?

“PCs are cheaper!” "No, no no PCs are more expensive in the long run!" “PCs suck!” “Macs suck are too expensive!” “oh yeah you suck pal along with your virus infected PCs!”

There I just got through about 95% of this “BS discussion.”

I've seen this two-year-old “discussion” about a million times. :rolleyes:
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Then why are you still clicking on this thread ? It's not like Macrumors only has 1 thread that you can discuss in. Just go spend your time elsewhere and let people that are interested in discussing this do it. No one is holding a gun to your head to participate.

And this "two-year old" discussion is about more like twenty years old. I've had this discussion back in the 90s many times. Except then, Mac OS was late to the game with it's cooperative multi-tasking and memory management.
 
I hope you don't believe that Apple invented multi-touch...

applecultvictim said:
Wow Aiden am impressed you mean the multitouch I have had in my iphone since 2 years ago and the multitouch I have in my trackpad? Or are yo more impressed that ms has finally ripped off the dock too? Tell me which is more impressive to you?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-touch

History
Multi-touch technology dates back to 1982, when Nimish Mehta at the University of Toronto developed the first finger pressure multi-touch display.

In 1983, Bell Labs at Murray Hill published a comprehensive discussion of touch-screen based interfaces.

In 1984 Bell Labs engineered a touch screen that could change images with more than one hand. The group at the University of Toronto stopped working on hardware and moved on to software and interfaces, expecting that they would have access to the Bell Labs work.

A breakthrough occurred in 1991, when Pierre Wellner published a paper on his multi-touch “Digital Desk”, which supported multi-finger and pinching motions.

In 1999, Fingerworks, a Newark-based company run by University of Delaware academics John Elias and Wayne Westerman, produced a line of multi-touch products including the iGesture Pad and the TouchStream keyboard. Westerman published a dissertation in 1999 on the subject. In 2005, after years of maintaining a niche line of keyboards and touchpads, Fingerworks was acquired by Apple Inc.
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clyde2801 said:
It sounds better than: "Windows 7. We'll do better this time. Honest."
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agree, these ads are desperation to try and show that MS-based products are better than apple but they are only focusing on price, and, factually speaking, they do have more problems. however, the higher cost of apple products are prohibitory and thus limit mass appeal - which is fine with me as I do feel empowered to be a mac in a very pc world.

PCs, regardless of what they cost, provide job security for IT and computer support businesses.
 
dukebound85 said:
i think these ads have some merit

not gonna lie, i envy the hardware selection with windows immensly
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Yep.

My customers who don't buy Macs really want the different hardware choices that aren't available on the Mac side.

My store has a 16.4" Sony on sale this week with 4GB, 320GB HD and Blu-ray.

$899. That's right, $100 less than the least expensive Apple laptop and it has a Blu-ray player. I'm going to set it up with the King Kong demo and the scene with Kong battling the three T-Rexs.
 
Stevamundo said:
Discuss what?

“PCs are cheaper!” "No, no no PCs are more expensive in the long run!" “PCs suck!” “Macs suck are too expensive!” “oh yeah you suck pal along with your virus infected PCs!”

There I just got through about 95% of this “BS discussion.”

I've seen this two-year-old “discussion” about a million times. :rolleyes:
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That's pretty much what it always boils down too. As if Apple really needs us to jump to its defense. :rolleyes:

KnightWRX said:
It's Microsoft latest attempt to proprietize the web, having failed with their stagnant Internet Explorer.

Basically, a Flash replacement that's much more advance on Windows than on other platforms and will always be, making sure that if you want to see sites that use its latest features, you're locked-in to Microsoft's platform.

Business as usual for them actually.
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I'd actually rather be using Silverlight than Flash on OS X. Even on my crappy connection I can stream video without buffering like Flash. Not to mention the CPU usage is lower than Flash's under OS X.
 
AidenShaw said:
And wait for Windows 7, with native multi-touch support embedded in the core system!
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i cringe to imagine how multi-touch will work (or even function smoothly) on a windows system - esp with poor memory management and dozens of aberrant processes creating frequent small lags on even the newest hardware...

and, yes, i own both PCs and Macs - although my number of PCs are dwindling...
 
KnightWRX said:
It's Microsoft latest attempt to proprietize the web, having failed with their stagnant Internet Explorer.

Basically, a Flash replacement that's much more advance on Windows than on other platforms and will always be, making sure that if you want to see sites that use its latest features, you're locked-in to Microsoft's platform.

Business as usual for them actually.
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Great post. For all those who say this thread is nothing but idle chit chat.

@Aiden:
Aiden did you jus post reviews from the manufacturer's site on these "genius" tablets you posted because the actual user review tell a different story:
On a small device such as the iPhone/iPod Touch, touch controls work as they avoid the need for a keyboard (and therefore keep the device small and slim) and most importantly, touch control is pervasive across the whole device. In a notebook or desktop setting, touch simply isn’t as useful as other control paradigms and lacks pervasiveness across the operating system – as such, it’s an interesting diversion but right now, is more curiosity than necessity.
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http://www.wegotserved.co.uk/2009/03/15/hands-on-hp-touchsmart-tx2-notebook/

and more so
Aside from touch, one additional word of frustration, the TX2 is bundled with the usual crapware links to online services such as Ebay and the like, but also comes with a particularly annoying trial of Norton Internet Security 2009 which nags at you to activate it on every boot. Worse still, the close window icon is disabled on this dialog and you have to hunt for a very small text link underneath a giant “Activate Now” button that whispers “close without enabling security”

I’m left wondering why HP failed to include the full range of touch applications that added value to the IQ800 TouchSmart PC series? It seems incongruous to sell a notebook on its touch controls, but then allow users to miss out on all the fun. At this point, the TX2 seems like a cautious first step into the world of touch (much like the IQ500 was an initial toe in the water of desktop touch).
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Impressive...:rolleyes::apple:

Why did you quote wikipedia aeden, so apple bought fingerworks and had the foresight and was the first to revolutionize mass market multi touch products, thanks for verifying me.
 
Stevamundo said:
There I just got through about 95% of this “BS discussion.”

I've seen this two-year-old “discussion” about a million times. :rolleyes:
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I'm sure that every week we'll have another 2000+ post thread about the newest Microsoft ad, and 1995 of those posts will be rehashing old arguments.


sn00pie said:
I think these ads are quite funny in the way that they're doing exactly the opposite of what they're meant to do.

They want people to avoid buying Apple, yet they're making Apples computers look good.
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Or they're making the point that "looking good" isn't enough to offset a very high price for what you get.

Off course, Mac fans and PC users will see the ad in different lights.


KnightWRX said:
Basically, a Flash replacement that's much more advance on Windows than on other platforms and will always be, making sure that if you want to see sites that use its latest features, you're locked-in to Microsoft's platform.
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Silverlight is cross-platform - it's available for the Mac from Microsoft (http://silverlight.net/GetStarted/) and for Linux through the open-source Moonlight project.

Silverlight is similar to Microsoft's .NET and "Windows Presentation Foundation" (in some ways similar to Apples "Cocoa" UI frameworks), and is coded using Visual Studio. Moving a UI into the browser is simple compared to recoding the application in Flash or AJAX.

A number of companies are adding support for Apple clients by moving their UIs to Silverlight - so Silverlight is good for the Mac platform, not a proprietary lock-in as you claim.

A good backgrounder is at Silverlight advantages over Flash (not another Silverlight vs Flash).

There's also an article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverlight .
 
Ugh..Lol

Tallest Skil said:
Cue another 3,200 post thread... :D

Hmm. It requires Silverlight to view. Not going to happen. Do you have another link?
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Ok dont lie like everyone in this post is.... we all have to have it for our netflix streams... i personally hate it but my mac need to have it to be able for me to watch my favorite movies and shows:p
 
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