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Microsoft Releases Second 'Laptop Hunters' Commercial
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KnightWRX
macrumors Pentium
That leaves Linux users... where exactly ? Oh right, waiting for Moonlight to never catch up to Silverlight so stuck without a way to view content.
At this point, I make it a rule to never give Microsoft a chance to embrace and extend anything to the point that one day, we'll all be stuck on Windows, even if we don't want to. They've done enough damage already.
Think about it. As soon as Silverlight dominates the web and they are the sole vendor, why wouldn't they just drop Mac support for it ?
Eidorian
macrumors Penryn
What I've noticed is that the majority of users still think it's 1995 for the other. So we get Mac OS 8/9 complaints alongside things we haven't seen or experienced since Windows 9x.
Yes, like they did with Internet Explorer.
I do find Flash to be sometimes extremely laggy, especially on Youtube videos.
I think that having alternatives is a good thing.
Nitpicking is pointless
We can argue all day long about this ad. The truth is, Microsoft hit the right nerve and its working. Number 1 concern of the public is the economy.
Cheap is the way things are going to be years from now.
People will not care superior OS or hardware build.
All they see is cheap, it works and can do all the basics a Mac can do.
I've said before:
MS doesn't care if Windows is never mentioned.
Every PC sale is automatic $$ for MS pockets.
We can argue all day long about this ad. The truth is, Microsoft hit the right nerve and its working. Number 1 concern of the public is the economy.
Cheap is the way things are going to be years from now.
People will not care superior OS or hardware build.
All they see is cheap, it works and can do all the basics a Mac can do.
I've said before:
MS doesn't care if Windows is never mentioned.
Every PC sale is automatic $$ for MS pockets.
AidenShaw
macrumors P6
The post was a reply to someone who said "show me any PC with multi-touch", and I showed two.
Also, note that multi-touch is "pervasive" in Windows 7, so that complaint will soon be history.
We're at the "chicken and egg" stage right now - the multi-touch windows hardware is shipping in advance of the OS. This seems a little odd to the consumer, but be assured that Windows 7 developers are buying these in order to exploit the "pervasiveness".
I like mine - it's nice to use a mixture of keyboard, mouse and screen gestures. I tend to do web navigation just by poking the links on the screen - much more intuitive than moving the mouse cursor to that spot and clicking.
Apple computers don't have multi-touch screens, just a gesture-aware trackpad. We'll see how long it is before Apple moves to multi-touch *screens*.
i love
I love that the only thing that Microsoft has in order to defend the machines that they don't even make is that they are cheaper. Good job "G", have fun with the PC that you'll spend a few minutes loving and a few more years overdosing on aspirin from the headache it will give you. thumbs up MS.
I love that the only thing that Microsoft has in order to defend the machines that they don't even make is that they are cheaper. Good job "G", have fun with the PC that you'll spend a few minutes loving and a few more years overdosing on aspirin from the headache it will give you. thumbs up MS.
addtoqueue
macrumors newbie
You think Apple is Microsoft closest competitor? It is not, M$ are not worried about Apple a bit. Steve Ballmer has said it alright, he is more worried by Linux than Apple.
The day Microsoft mention Linux in one of their adds is the day Ubuntu will have more than a million downloads, M$ does not want that. They can mention Apple, because Apple fills a niche and not everybody likes Apple. I do like Macs, but I still prefer a PC with Linux over a Mac.
Consider what Matt Rossof said, an analyst with independent research firm directions on Microsoft:
"Macintosh computers are a threat in precisely one market upscale consumer PCs, a small part of the overall PC market,"
"Linux is a bigger threat because it competes in more areas such as server OSs, embedded systems and increasingly on client PCs with the rise of low-cost netbooks,"
Just for people to think about.
The day Microsoft mention Linux in one of their adds is the day Ubuntu will have more than a million downloads, M$ does not want that. They can mention Apple, because Apple fills a niche and not everybody likes Apple. I do like Macs, but I still prefer a PC with Linux over a Mac.
Consider what Matt Rossof said, an analyst with independent research firm directions on Microsoft:
"Macintosh computers are a threat in precisely one market upscale consumer PCs, a small part of the overall PC market,"
"Linux is a bigger threat because it competes in more areas such as server OSs, embedded systems and increasingly on client PCs with the rise of low-cost netbooks,"
Just for people to think about.
scrapit
macrumors newbie
your a PC because your braindead
your a pc because your as brain dead like the rest of the dumb masses. pc's are a dime a dozen, you can buy them in every kmart or big lot store in the country or you can buy at neiman marcus. you can buy a top of the line computer that will last for years or buy a pc, piece of crap that will fall apart next week. good luck loser.
your a pc because your as brain dead like the rest of the dumb masses. pc's are a dime a dozen, you can buy them in every kmart or big lot store in the country or you can buy at neiman marcus. you can buy a top of the line computer that will last for years or buy a pc, piece of crap that will fall apart next week. good luck loser.
Microsoft's response to the fanboys is pretty good:
"In any case, the ugly attacks from Mac fanboys are exactly what Microsoft was hoping to provoke, says David Webster, general manager for brand marketing at Microsoft. He says the idea was to turn Apple's "I'm a Mac" campaign to Microsoft's advantage. "We associate real people with being PCs, [but then Apple] ends up looking pretty mean-spirited, the way they go after customers," he says. "It's clear that's who they are insulting." At the same time he can't resist taking a crack at the preciousness of some Mac users. "Not everyone wants a machine that's been washed with unicorn tears," he says."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/192459
"In any case, the ugly attacks from Mac fanboys are exactly what Microsoft was hoping to provoke, says David Webster, general manager for brand marketing at Microsoft. He says the idea was to turn Apple's "I'm a Mac" campaign to Microsoft's advantage. "We associate real people with being PCs, [but then Apple] ends up looking pretty mean-spirited, the way they go after customers," he says. "It's clear that's who they are insulting." At the same time he can't resist taking a crack at the preciousness of some Mac users. "Not everyone wants a machine that's been washed with unicorn tears," he says."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/192459
AidenShaw
macrumors P6
Tallest Skil
macrumors P6
Please either post a coherent argument that has actual merit or don't post, eh?
Yeah I don't think I was claiming they did, but the ipod touch and iphone do and those devices have had the same multi-touch features that you were highlighting on the new tablet pcs. And when Apple releases a tablet, those manufacturers will again be playing catch up in terms of multi-touch UI.
Bubba Satori
Suspended
...and you're a mac because your school and friend use them and you don't know any better/different? Let's all team up and hate the other guys!
Both adverts have shown a customer going out with a budget and an idea of what they want. We've seen you can get big screens and power on a limited budget - seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to advertise.
You fanboys need to get off your soap boxes. Not everyone wants to drop thousands of dollars on a notebook or a desktop. Not everyone wants an all in one computer. Not everyone wants an underpowered Mac Mini. Have you ever heard of choice? You chose to get a Mac. Others may choose to get a PC. Does that make them ignorant? Are Mac owners idiots for spending so much on there computers? No! It's about choice and preference. I personally saw the value in getting a Macbook rather than a PC. I can't say the same about the Mac Mini, Mac Pro or the Macbook Pro. I can't justify the purchase of any of those compared to a PC.
When I look for a new computer I will pay an extra $300-400 for a Mac. $100 for the OS, $100 for the warranty, and $100-200 for resale value. If the Mac is $400 or more than a similar PC, you really need to justify spending that extra money. But when you're talking $1000 or more, I will get a PC in a heartbeat.
When I look for a new computer I will pay an extra $300-400 for a Mac. $100 for the OS, $100 for the warranty, and $100-200 for resale value. If the Mac is $400 or more than a similar PC, you really need to justify spending that extra money. But when you're talking $1000 or more, I will get a PC in a heartbeat.
That has to be one of the most arrogant and conceited comments I have read in some time. A high-end PC can be much more expensive than a Mac. That's the versatility of a PC.
Even when I was a PC user, I wanted to know as much as I could about every component. I'm not saying I always opted for the motherboard that cost $200 instead of the $50 one, but I at least wanted to know what the $150 difference was.
I understand that some people need PCs because of certain specs at certain points, but when they do the age-old trick of just popping 3 numbers at you (clock speed, amount of RAM, size of hard drive), that's like trying to sell me a car on how many doors, cylinders and cup holders it has. What sold me most on my Camry? The Consumer Reports reviews, the mileage, the look, and the aux audio input jack.
Whether you buy a Mac, PC, or dishwasher, EVERYBODY please think about long-term costs and service. I have never had as few problems with computers as I have with the Macs I've been around. My dad's iMac is nearing 4 years old and has had two problems: bad power supply ($150 fixed it in 2 days), and an extremely annoying motherboard malfunction, which Apple fixed for FREE after it was out of warranty. My HP laptop wouldn't turn on after a couple of months, and I had to send it off. It came back with 90 minutes of battery life a month later. My Dell just annoyed me with all the security stuff, but my sister still uses it and it's about 5 years old.
@Aiden:
Aiden did you jus post reviews from the manufacturer's site on these "genius" tablets you posted because the actual user review tell a different story:
"On a small device such as the iPhone/iPod Touch, touch controls work as they avoid the need for a keyboard (and therefore keep the device small and slim) and most importantly, touch control is pervasive across the whole device. In a notebook or desktop setting, touch simply isn’t as useful as other control paradigms and lacks pervasiveness across the operating system – as such, it’s an interesting diversion but right now, is more curiosity than necessity."
http://www.wegotserved.co.uk/2009/03/15/hands-on-hp-touchsmart-tx2-notebook/
and more so
Impressive...🙄
Why did you quote wikipedia aeden, so apple bought fingerworks and had the foresight and was the first to revolutionize mass market multi touch products, thanks for verifying me.
Absolutely. The fact that Apple doesn't push out multi-touch for mass production in its OS is that Apple prefers to get it right (aside from the minor annoyances with the re-release of MobileMe, which was mostly due to in-congruencies with the Windows side). Certainly multi-touch has been around for a while, however multi-touch done WELL is a different situation.
As well, while multi-touch may work with smaller devices such as the iPhone and portable glass trackpads, utilizing multi-touch for a full system might not be as practical.
On another note, the statements about "power" and using "beast" to describe systems is very antiquated. As most computer users don't need Octo machines with 32 GB of RAM and a 1 GB video card (unless the true nerds are getting wet over World of War or whatever - sorry, couldn't resist a little good natured fun 😉 ), building huge "monsters" to throw stats around simply demonstrates a need for over compensation. Consumer based computer systems have been powerful enough for a long time, the next phase is developing the same power with more efficiency . Apple hasn't been sitting on their laurels, they have been developing systems that are more energy efficient and recyclable. This is evident starting back a few years ago when Apple began using non-CRT screens after the eMac, and ceased production on iSight camera's due to mercury and other toxic substances.
The fact is computer technology is being used in many more households and ewaste is a serious issue. More and more landfills are filling up with cheaper, disposable products. Certainly the HP's and Dell's are fine machine, I used Gateways for YEARS while using Apple hardware. However, Apple has been progressing a great deal with their products as most Apple portables and desktops utilize recyclable materials such as aluminum, glass in their trackpads and screens, LED backlit flat screens, energy efficient batteries, more energy efficient CPU's and cooling systems, etc. I would rather spend the extra 200-500 dollars on an Apple system that I will utilize for a longer period of time than a general Windows system and that has a much greater recyclable percentage of materials once I am ready to upgrade. Most consumers do not need a "power house" system, I would rather a system that does have award winning aesthetics (not just for appearances but design aestethics that assist in ergonomics that improve ease of use), an easier to navigate OS, and improved materials that are environmentally conscious. Most people do not need systems that are more power than they need while using more energy and filling up landfills with more plastic, mercury, wires, and other ewaste toxins. In this Apple succeeds and it's time the rest of the industry takes note.
Lastly, I boot into Windows Vista 32 and 64 bit Home/Ultimate editions on my Mac Pro. Both systems, even with clean slates, takes longer to boot up than Leopard or Snow Leopard. I do not use anti-virus on either Windows system, I haven't in years. In fact, I do not even have Office installed. The only program I have installed is AutoCAD on my 64 machine. Even the updates from Windows take longer, as they are installed after restarting/shutting down. The last one took almost an hour. Every one has very different experiences, however the general consumer public has had negative experiences using Windows. Even with Apple's more expensive price tags, Apple's market share was steadily growing over the past few years (however with the unfortunate turn in the global economy, Apple's share has been falling, but everyone's growth has been slowing down).
AidenShaw
macrumors P6
That Newsweek article is very good - I recommend that people read it to get an alternate opinion.
The ad campaign is very successful, and the uproar in the Apple community is only benefitting Microsoft. Keep it up, guys and gals!
Goona
macrumors 68020
Dont make me laugh, who the heck wastes money on a company they don't view as a compeititor.
Tallest Skil
macrumors P6
I find this interesting.
2/3 of the computers sold in the USA above $1,000 are Macs.
This includes all manner of PC gaming rigs, crazy-expensive laptops, and the like.
So yeah, Apple isn't catering to the sub-$1,000 crowd. They don't really care... because they don't have to. End of story.
2/3 of the computers sold in the USA above $1,000 are Macs.
This includes all manner of PC gaming rigs, crazy-expensive laptops, and the like.
So yeah, Apple isn't catering to the sub-$1,000 crowd. They don't really care... because they don't have to. End of story.
deannnnn
macrumors 68020
This thread is just about 24 hours old and already has 50 pages... sorry I'm a little late to the party, I just have to throw in that this commercial is definitely better than the other one... and I'm surprised Microsoft is willing to admit how beautiful Macs are. Still, what a total lie about processing power... and he forgot to mention the stability of Mac OS X as opposed to Windows Vista...
EDIT: I'm post #1234! That's exciting. (And I think my excitement about that is directly related to why I'm a Mac user, lol.)
EDIT: I'm post #1234! That's exciting. (And I think my excitement about that is directly related to why I'm a Mac user, lol.)
Eidorian
macrumors Penryn
$700-800 is the sweet spot for most other hardware companies and me personally.
In before storm of replies.