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I don't know how Microsoft does it, but it's so restless I still get nervous from their interface. It doesn't look that cluttered like previous Windows releases, but when comparing it to macOS you have thunderstorm vs sunshine.
In my opinion it doesn't look that bad, that said, I am almost 100% sure I will hate it, don't think it's much different than previous iterations, as is always the case.

Sadly I have to use this OS for my job, but, as little as possible.
I would 100% use Apple if I started my own business.
 
Well... to be honest... it's also "up to Apple", because if Apple decides to stop supporting users of professional applications such as Revit, Ansys, Robot Structural Analysis, CYPECAD, Catia, SolidWorks, Tekla Structures, and an endless list of professional engineering applications... then, well, you can say it's "up to Microsoft", but the thing is that Microsoft is not losing these customers. It's Apple who loses them.

Forget seeing the Mac in engineering universities. You'll see iPads, but no Macs anymore.
It's up to the companies that make those applications to support the users that use those apps. Not Apple.
 
I switched to MacOS for my home computers between 2006 and 2008 - I do NOT miss Windows a bit ...

my wife still has a Win (10) laptop, every time she has a problem I ask her "did you reboot?" - that still works 25 years or so later ...
 
This is like a skin on top of windows 10, which itself was like a skin on windows 7. Just bring up the right click menu on the desktop, choose more options and boom, windows 10 context menu. It’s a s*** show.
 
I wish Apple would get it together and support Mac in a Virtual Machine on Windows.
Not the same thing. Windows is sold as a separate product that is designed to run on multiple hardware types. It‘s reasonable to ask for official support, especially given that it’s more or less able to run unofficially and Microsoft can profit off of it.
 
From what I read earlier about windows 11, and Macs is even the latest Intel based Macs don't have TPM 2.0, and possibly the DX 12 support issue. However, it's most likely TPM, or CPU generation requirements falling short. I do have plans to try it at some point in VMWare to test performance, since I can simply restore the VM from time machine if things go wrong.

However, for me personally, this is a time I've really been considering moving away from Apple as far as the desktop goes. I have nothing against current Macs, and new ones coming out. I would just like more control over hardware than apple gives these days.
DX12 is not a problem. Running W11 on Bootcamp on my 2019 Macbook pro 13-inch for a long time. Have updated the Intel Graphics drivers to the DCH version 30.x (latest). Just download the latest graphic drivers from Intel website and install them. Secure boot is supported by default, TPM is not. I have to say, W11 runs really really well on my Macbook. Since I upgraded from Windows 10 (already installed on Bootcamp), Apple drivers continue to work. So, everything works perfectly, including the precision drivers for the trackpad.

Apple could allow to enable TTP (the firmware TPM2) in the Intel processors (through UEFI settings) or provide some interface to the T2 that is compliant with the TPM specs. They could include it in BridgeOS (firmware) that the T2 drives. The T2 is a ARM processor that works in parallel with the Intel processor. With every new beta of Monterey, they have updated BridgeOS. So.. I believe Apple could do it.
 
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DX12 is not a problem. Running W11 on Bootcamp on my 2019 Macbook pro 13-inch for a long time. Have updated the Intel Graphics drivers to the DCH version 30.x (latest). Just download the latest graphic drivers from Intel website and install them. Secure boot is supported by default, TPM is not. I have to say, W11 runs really really well on my Macbook. Since I upgraded from Windows 10 (already installed on Bootcamp), Apple drivers continue to work. So, everything works perfectly, including the precision drivers for the trackpad.

Apple could allow to enable TTP (the firmware TPM2) in the Intel processors (through UEFI settings) or provide some interface to the T2 that is compliant with the TPM specs. They could include it in BridgeOS (firmware) that the T2 drives. The T2 is a ARM processor that works in parallel with the Intel processor. With every new beta of Monterey, they have updated BridgeOS. So.. I believe Apple could do it.
Well, I ran the PC Health checker and it didn't pass my windows10 VM because my processor isn't supported. I have a late 2015 27" iMac, so it has a SkyLake CPU. Other than that, I think I have a supported setup in that VM, including having encrypted the VM and adding a virtual TPM 2.0 platform. since it's a VM, is there a setting I can edit in the VM settings to make the CPU report as a supported CPU to get around that?
 
Though a Mac user, I recently bought a Surface Pro 7 for my cybersecurity studies and installed the RTM Windows 11 last week. It’s not bad, though it’s handwriting recognition sucks compared to iPadOS. One area I think it is much better than macOS is his it now handles windowing and multi-monitor support. I love being able to hover over maximise and have it place the current windows and others within regions. I also love the way it handles when I disconnect my laptop from an external screen, bringing the applications nearly to the laptop, but when reconnected, returning them to where I originally had them. I dow want Apple to photocopy this functionality as it’s a significant peeve on macOS how windows just disappear.
 
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The release of Windows 11 just confirmed that Apple is media's darling. The media coverage for Windows 11 is nowhere Apple's products, despite the fact that the Windows platform is used by over a billion people and holds a market share of over 75%.

Windows 11 did not make the headlines of any tech news website, not even Thurrott.com, despite it being formerly known as Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows. CNET, as well as other websites, puts the 10th anniversary of Steve Jobs' passing as the headlines. On CNET, Windows 11 gets the same coverage as the iMac, which was released in April, some six months ago.

I suppose Windows 11 is getting less media coverage than even the AirTags...
 
Windows 11 is never going to run on Apple Silicon because Windows would run faster on the Apple Silicon, hurting Microsoft’s OEMs. When they’ve had years to look at Apple Silicone and figure out how to slow windows on a Mac, maybe they will change their minds.
 
Windows 11 is never going to run on Apple Silicon because Windows would run faster on the Apple Silicon, hurting Microsoft’s OEMs. When they’ve had years to look at Apple Silicone and figure out how to slow windows on a Mac, maybe they will change their minds.
This is definitely not the reason.

A Windows license costs $139 and that would go on top of the price of a Mac. A MacBook Air would cost at least $1138, and that would come with only 256 GB for both macOS and Windows. A 512 GB MacBook Air would be more feasible, and it would cost $1388. It would make for an expensive laptop considering that it only has 8 GB RAM. This would be out of range for most consumers.
 
This is definitely not the reason.

A Windows license costs $139 and that would go on top of the price of a Mac. A MacBook Air would cost at least $1138, and that would come with only 256 GB for both macOS and Windows. A 512 GB MacBook Air would be more feasible, and it would cost $1388. It would make for an expensive laptop considering that it only has 8 GB RAM. This would be out of range for most consumers.
Are you saying that if Microsoft releases windows 11 for Apple silicone & it runs faster on M1 chip macs vs the most expensive PCs that Microsoft will be totally chill & into it?
 
I rather suspect that Microsoft's reluctance is fueled by their OEMs (Dell, Lenovo, et al) lobbying to do whatever they can to reduce the utility of Apple's products.

It's absolutely in Parallels' interest to try to establish itself as an "OEM" for the purpose of ARM Windows licensing for their customers.
 
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So Microsoft is releasing Windows 11 on the 10th anniversary of Steve Jobs' passing. What were they thinking? Is that a tribute of some sort or just a coincidence?
I seriously doubt it even entered into anybody's mind. I wouldn't have even known it was the anniversary of his death if MacRumors / Apple hadn't brought it up, and I assume the Windows 11 release date was decided well in advance.

Anything is possible, but this one seems highly unlikely.
 
I'm currently running the ARM version of Windows 11 (which I got via the Microsoft Insider Program) on my M1 MacBook Air via Parallels 17 - and it seems to be working just fine. I'm not doing any heavy lifting in the VM, but for the few times I need a Windows program, I haven't run into any issues.

In other words, while not officially supported by Microsoft, you can certainly virtualize Windows on a M1 machine.
 
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And four months after, we don't know the release date of Monterey 🤷‍♂️
This month, after the October keynote in middle of the month.
Well... to be honest... it's also "up to Apple", because if Apple decides to stop supporting users of professional applications such as Revit, Ansys, Robot Structural Analysis, CYPECAD, Catia, SolidWorks, Tekla Structures, and an endless list of professional engineering applications... then, well, you can say it's "up to Microsoft", but the thing is that Microsoft is not losing these customers. It's Apple who loses them.
Well, these developers needs to make Mac version of the App. Apple’s been asking them secretly to make the Mac version of the professional engineering apps, but those developers are simply, shall I say, LAZY.
They are missing out a lot by not having a Mac version of the app. They’ll be ones losing customers once an indie devs make a Mac equivalent of those apps that are hundred times better.
 
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I'd be interested in this as well. It's also crashy — alt-tab often crashes explorer.exe, and I find that WPF apps often crash entirely. Yes, I've reported both issues.

My guess is the latter issue is a bug in the VMware display driver, but I'm not sure.

And yes, it's sloooooooow.
Nothing crashes better than Windows. They have mastered the science of crashing.
So is Windows 11 basically the same good ol’ Windows with a new version number and more blink-blink?
Your GPU may overheat from all the graphical details it needs to render.
 
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