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"...a location not dissimilar to where the Dock lives in macOS."

🤣🤣🤣

Oh, you're being too nice, MacRumors.

Just come out and say it. This was obviously copied from macOS.
 
Do not understand. Microsoft has a Windows cloud-based virtualization service. It already exists and companies can take advantage of it. It doesn't matter what computer you have anymore.

Exactly. Unless you’re running Windows full-time, wouldn’t Windows365 do the trick?

 
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Exactly. Unless you’re running Windows full-time, wouldn’t Windows365 do the trick?

No, not unless you are a big business. It's pretty expensive and internet latency can be severe.

For individuals, it's not a workable solution.
 
I'm confused, reading here some have Windows running in Parallels etc on an M1 Mac, but it's tricky to get a Windows Licence for that? And can you get drivers as well then or not? Also can Microsoft just stop your Windows running like this when ever they feel like it?
 
reading here some have Windows running in Parallels etc on an M1 Mac
Windows on Arm is what they are running. (Windows for an Arm chip)

but it's tricky to get a Windows Licence for that?
It's not tricky, it's impossible until Microsoft decides to change their licensing for Windows on Arm. Currently the only license available for Windows on Arm is an OEM license and the the EULA for it says it can only be sold with hardware that is designed to run it.
Also can Microsoft just stop your Windows running like this when ever they feel like it?
They could, but I highly doubt they would. If you're a business, that's a different matter.
 
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Horrible, like “Safari-horrible” ? :p
No, like Big Sur which is showing me I have "Weak Security (WPA)" for wifi in the menu bar, but showing it's safe in system preferences/networks with WPA2/3 encryption. That horrible. :p

Seems like Apple is the new 1990s/early 2000s Microsoft and Microsoft the new 2015 Apple.
 
It will be fun to see if the M1X/M2 still runs Windows Insider versions of ARM Windows… and The performance of those machines.
 
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Guess my 2013 HP Pavilion with an Intel Core™ i7-3610QM CPU @ 2.30GHz isn't good enough to run W11 even though it runs W10 fine.
 
Hmmm, I like the look of it. Clearly a touch of Apple, but more ... 'industrial'. It's nice actually, Microsoft's design has taken a step forward.
 
Short story long. I took the hard drive from an older motherboard that didn't support UEFI, and plugged the drive into my shiny new 202 build. Since UEFI wasn't supported I set the BIOS for compatibility mode. The drive booted and I installed updated drivers, but without UEFI, secure boot, I will not be able to run windows 11.

so the issue is your old install rather than your new build right?

nothing stopping your hardware from running windows 11 if you do a fresh install. unless i’m misunderstanding something?
 
obviously haven't used windows in a long time...
One anecdote here. I use a Surface Book 2 for work running Windows 10 at a major tech company. I have never had more issues with a computer than I do with Windows at work. I was finally able to move away from the Surface Book 2 at work onto a MacBook Pro. The MSFT forums are littered with issues about Microsoft not supporting the integration of its SW and HW past ~2 years. Ridiculous their own hardware doesn't play well with Windows.
 
It's horribly slow in VMWare Fusion (latest version on an iMac 2017 i7 with 40GB ram). Anyone knows whether it runs any better in Parallels?
I find it's speed normal. I am using the latest Parallels and Windows 11 ARM. It's slower than x86 Windows in Parallels, yes, but not so much it's terribly noticeable. I have been testing how Windows 11's version of "Rosetta 2" works. It seems to handle x86 code "okay." I have some rather obscure x86 apps I use too. Rosetta 2 seems MUCH better at it, though.
 
so the issue is your old install rather than your new build right?

nothing stopping your hardware from running windows 11 if you do a fresh install. unless i’m misunderstanding something?
Fresh install would work if I could activate software that I previously activated. Since I can’t activate such software I can’t do a fresh install. I since learned to use a virtual
Machine for such software.
 
Fresh install would work if I could activate software that I previously activated. Since I can’t activate such software I can’t do a fresh install. I since learned to use a virtual
Machine for such software.

that’s too bad
 
Windows on Arm is what they are running. (Windows for an Arm chip)


It's not tricky, it's impossible until Microsoft decides to change their licensing for Windows on Arm. Currently the only license available for Windows on Arm is an OEM license and the the EULA for it says it can only be sold with hardware that is designed to run it.

They could, but I highly doubt they would. If you're a business, that's a different matter.

Ah so you can just buy an OEM copy of Windows 11 for Arm for your Arm Mac from Amazon or where ever once it's available, and have a licensed copy for personal use. As in a copy that won't lock itself one day due to activation?
 


Following three months of beta testing, Microsoft has officially released Windows 11, which brings a new design, new multitasking features, and other software additions to the PC-using public.


Perhaps inspired by macOS, the main Windows 11 screen features rounded corners on several interface elements including application windows, and in combination with a new theming system that combines specific wallpapers with colors, the overall design looks modern, with more depth and less clutter than Windows 10, which is now six years old.

In the clearest design change, the refreshed desktop moves the Start menu and taskbar, interface elements that are familiar to all Windows users, to the center of the screen, a location not dissimilar to where the Dock lives in macOS.

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The taskbar includes shortcuts to Microsoft's Edge browser, widgets, Teams integration, and File Explorer. Meanwhile, gone are the Live Tiles in the Start menu, which has been stripped down for a cleaner, simpler look, and now houses links to apps and recently used files.

In the bottom-right corner of the screen, the new Action Center and System Tray sports a design reminiscent of the Control Center in the macOS menu bar, and is home to sound, display, Bluetooth, network controls, and pop-out notifications.

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Another area where Windows 11 appears to have taken a leaf out of Apple's book is its approach to widgets. Where widgets on macOS slide in from the right side of the screen via Notification Center, Windows 11 has them sliding in from the left side, with a panel that includes weather and news widgets by default.

One of the most notable additions in this version of Windows is in the area of multitasking. Like in macOS with Spaces, users can create multiple virtual desktops for different sets of apps. In addition, a new Snap Assist feature appears when the mouse pointer hovers over the maximize button, and offers up several window layouts that app windows can snap to. These layouts are remembered by Windows and appear as Snap Groups in the taskbar.

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Elsewhere, there's a new Microsoft app store featuring many new popular apps, and in a clear divergence from Apple, Microsoft also plans to host third-party stores in its Microsoft Store, including an Epic Games store, although there's no sign of the promised Android apps yet (Microsoft says it plans to preview them before the end of the year.)

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Windows 11 will come pre-installed on newer PCs, and Microsoft is also offering the new operating system as an upgrade for Windows 10 users who have a machine that includes the necessary Trusted Platform Module (TPM). Macs powered by ‌Apple silicon do not support Windows and there is no Boot Camp feature like there is on Intel Macs, but support for Windows is a feature that many users would like to see, at least via virtualization software.

However, Microsoft recently dampened hopes that Windows will be able to work on Apple silicon, saying that running an Arm version of Windows 11 on M1 Macs, via virtualization or otherwise, is not "a supported scenario."

Apple's software engineering chief Craig Federighi last year said that Windows coming to ‌‌M1‌‌ Macs is "up to Microsoft." The ‌‌M1‌‌ chip contains the core technologies needed to run Windows, but Microsoft seems unwilling to license its Arm version of Windows to Mac users.

Article Link: Microsoft Releases Windows 11, Mac Virtualization Support Still Seems Unlikely

As Bertrand stated long ago ... 'it's STILL DLL hell"

Rounded corners and showing off the same legend layout of system tray icons, time/date to the bottom right hand corner that's been the same since Windows XP/ME doesn't mean much.


1. Microsoft Teams being integrated will get Microsoft into hot water in the EU for certain. No bundling just like Internet Explorer or Microsoft Edge was back-handed slapped. Trust this will happen sooner or later.

2. MS Teams. Uggh.
anyone that's used this application for a few months knows the following:
- always opens full screen - not needed especially after an annoyingly long splash screen.
- any information posted in private chat/Team chats that are older than 3months, when searched the results show up, but you CANNOT open the data ... the search results only show an excerpt. 4 companies and 3yrs this is a KNOWN issue.
- over time MS Teams seems to begin slowing your windows PC. It's a resource hog still (CPU, RAM on Windows 10, 1909 enterprise. ) ... what you see in this ad is just like a first run use.
- Screen sharing ... why in GOD's name is it shown a a Phone Call?! Cancel the call and you cannot screen share. Completely ASSININE! Arrgh.
 
Intel Trusted Platform is theoretically TPM 2.0 equivalent.
It’s not labeled as that in my settings. It actually took me forever to find because it had zero references to TPM or anything like that.
 
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