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I think in the end, Windows 11 won't be as successful as Windows 10 until they make it available on more platforms than those running the equivalent of TPM 2.0. This could force legal action for Microsoft to continue supporting Windows 10 with full security updates until at least 2030.
 
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Ah so you can just buy an OEM copy of Windows 11 for Arm for your Arm Mac from Amazon or where ever once it's available, and have a licensed copy for personal use. As in a copy that won't lock itself one day due to activation?
There's no case you can buy a legal copy of Windows on Arm unless you're an OEM and you make Arm based hardware.
 
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It’s actually amazing. WINE is working wonders and with Proton and Valve, there are very few games I can’t play. It’s not like Linux gaming 10 years ago (or even 5 years ago).
Isn't WINE a resource hog, and in essence must translate almost all computations before they get processed under the OS
 
My custom built PC in 2020 doesn’t meet the requirements due to no TPM. Windows 11 is going to be very niche for a while.
If it has a somewhat recent Intel CPU it should work. Look for "PTT" or "Platform Trust Technology" in the BIOS (which is Intel's embedded version of the TPM).

I installed Win11 on a PC I built in 2018 (i7-8086K CPU on a z390 motherboard) without problems (they actually made the installation media available one day early yesterday). Just enabled PTT, disabled CSM/Legacy mode, and enabled Secure Boot.

Haven't had much time to play with it yet, but I find the UI much nicer than Win10's (probably because it's more similar to MacOS :p). It also seems much more responsive. I read somewhere that Microsoft tuned the thread scheduler to make more resources available to foreground tasks, that seems to have worked.
 
It’s not a major release. It’s merely a reskin of Windows 10 with several horrible interface decisions.

The main purpose seems to be marking a clear line on supported hardware so new features can be implemented with assumed machine capabilities. That signals crazy times ahead for Win 11 users as MS experiments.
 
Stupid given that Macs are the best development machines for apps on Windows ARM.
 
If it has a somewhat recent Intel CPU it should work. Look for "PTT" or "Platform Trust Technology" in the BIOS (which is Intel's embedded version of the TPM).

I installed Win11 on a PC I built in 2018 (i7-8086K CPU) without problems (they actually made the installation media available one day early yesterday). Just enabled PTT, disabled CSM/Legacy mode, and enabled Secure Boot.

Haven't had much time to play with it yet, but I find the UI much nicer than Win10's (probably because it's more similar to MacOS :p). It also seems much more responsive. I read somewhere that Microsoft tuned the thread scheduler to make more resources available to foreground tasks, that seems to have worked.
Yes I see that option but like I said there are 5 settings in a drop down. It’s not an Enable/Disable setting. So I need to do some research whenever I have time.
 
While it’s certainly true that some of Microsoft’s inspiration clearly came from the Mac, that’s fine with me. Good ideas are good ideas, and it’s now possible to very pleasurably use Windows. Like many others, I would pay for a version of Windows that I could install on my Mac hardware.

The things I miss with Windows are now mostly integration items — Apple’s Photos and Messages being the main ones. I also love the Mac’s ability to quickly show a document preview by clicking on the space bar. Beyond that, I’d be happy as a clam with Windows.
 
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It's horribly slow in VMWare Fusion (latest version on an iMac 2017 i7 with 40GB ram). Anyone knows whether it runs any better in Parallels?
Funny that - I was on the insider program while on Windows 10 in the latest free VMware Fusion 12 Fusion Player and then updated to Windows 11 that way. It flew aka was very responsive on a late 2015 27" iMac.
 
I think in the end, Windows 11 won't be as successful as Windows 10 until they make it available on more platforms than those running the equivalent of TPM 2.0. This could force legal action for Microsoft to continue supporting Windows 10 with full security updates until at least 2030.
Apparently it runs fine on older systems - just need to use the ISO to install it which can be annoying. Got it installed on my unsupported skylake build and everything installed fine. Windows updates work too. It's now a true frankentosh running both Windows 11 and macOS 11
 
Apparently it runs fine on older systems - just need to use the ISO to install it which can be annoying. Got it installed on my unsupported skylake build and everything installed fine. Windows updates work too. It's now a true frankentosh running both Windows 11 and macOS 11
That's good, but I am not sure if such an installation is for less technically proficient users.
 
There's no case you can buy a legal copy of Windows on Arm unless you're an OEM and you make Arm based hardware.
Or become a Windows insider or wait for Windows Arm to be on sale, and you can buy OEM Windows copies, I got Windows 7 that way from Amazon back in the day.
 
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Yes with about 5 different settings. Sorry. Working three jobs I haven’t looked at which setting to enable yet. You think others would even go to the BIOS to begin with?
It’s just dumb that PC motherboard makers never made it the default setting when it is a recommended security feature.
 
So Microsoft is releasing Windows 11 on the 10th anniversary of Steve Jobs' passing. What were they thinking? Is that a tribute of some sort or just a coincidence?
 
Why can’t we use this on MacBook Pro’s with intel under boot camp, it still says my computer doesn’t meet the requirements, it’s the 16” i9 one
Using it right now with bootcamp, runs smooth too. But yeah you have to bypass the tpm check first.
 
Or become a Windows insider or wait for Windows Arm to be on sale, and you can buy OEM Windows copies, I got Windows 7 that way from Amazon back in the day.
I can't do that. I'm an IT manager and need to always be licensing compliant, and the insiders build "license" is a big gray area. And you will never be able to buy an OEM copy except from an OEM, and it would be real questionable for an OEM to sell you an OEM copy that doesn't come with the hardware it runs on.
 
I don't understand, I've been running Windows 11 (Insider Build) on my M1 Mac Mini for months via Parallels without issue. Mostly for video games.
 
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