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Was excited about 1020 till I saw sample photos. It's looks like 920.

808 PureView takes much, much better photos, has a bigger sensors and much better IQ.

Nokia messed up the camera with 1020.
 
Not entirely true. The Nokia 920 and Galaxy S3 in night mode can take some surprisingly impressive low light shots.

As you can see here.

No, it won't beat a dSLR or even higher end point 'n shoots, but they're still pretty solid.

The quality I expect is something close to Sony RX100 MII not a camera phone. But thanks for pointing back to the photoshoped, not taken with Lumia pictures...
 
No you can't change physics. Maybe it's time to give that Canon 6D back if you think that this will ever replace a DSLR. Maybe if your 6D has a kit zoom locked at 35mm and stuck at f/16 it would replace that but otherwise no.

A little hostile there. :rolleyes: I don't mean this camera could obviously and I'm no engineer so I can't back up with any data however I do believe that the "impossible" has been disproved time and time again.

I don't have any $1500 glass on my 6D but it doesn't mean that I can't use it. I have a respect for the cameras ability and don't use it professionally so a sub $1000 lens is all I need. Look at these compact cameras popping up with interchangeable lens. They suck comparatively but its a step forward.
 
Well....then the video was photoshoped too lol :D

Nuh uh! Real life has lens flares and star wipe effects, dude guy. I've seen them before, back when I used to get really drunk all the time. You can't use them as proof that the video was faked.

Also I have a doctorate in Photoshop, so I think I of all people would know if something edited or not.
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That was me making that statement and yes in 10 years you may be right. Last month I bought a new compact camera (Panasonic Lumix TMC TZ 40) and it has the highest MP available for a compact at 18.1MP. The most expensive Nikon and Canon DSLRs don't go further than 36MP currently and now Nokia intends to put a 41MP into a phone-camera. This is not going to work as all camera simply work with the light they can capture. The chip in a camera phone is just to small to pick up enough light for real good shooting (high ISO or moving objects). Just try to take a picture with your iPhone in the dark on a moving object: total fail. Increasing MP will only make this worse (other things kept equal)

With current tech yes its unattainable. I'm probably just wishing toward the future but MP/sensor isn't the only thing you could improve on a compact/phone.
 
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And still infinitely more useful than iOS.

Windows or Windows Mobile? Windows is more useful than IOS, but it's also a desktop platform and doesn't run as well on a cellphone. Windows mobile phone on the other hand is a ridiculously silly copy of IOS. I've never used an IOS device or a Windows Mobile 7/8 device before (although I used to have a Windows Mobile 2003 and 6 device, which is completely different), but it's obvious that Microsoft wasn't happy with their Windows Mobile userbase, so they "quit" so to speak, and made their version of IOS, Windows Mobile Phone 7 Series. It worked kind of like IOS, but had less applications, less functionality, and looked downright ugly, so nobody bought it.

Would you rather buy an expensive and good looking original or a cheesy and ugly knockoff with a novelty camera?

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Windows or Windows Mobile? Windows is more useful than IOS, but it's also a desktop platform and doesn't run as well on a cellphone. Windows mobile phone on the other hand is a ridiculously silly copy of IOS.

How could you think that Windows Phone is a "silly" copy of iOS? I don't see how anyone with even the smallest amount of hands on time with a WP device could thi...

I've never used an IOS device or a Windows Mobile 7/8 device before...

...oh.

Well nevermind then.
 
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How could you think that Windows Phone is a "silly" copy of iOS?

Because it is? It's blatantly obvious - slide to unlock, launcher, toilet paper scroller applications, locked out architecture, etc., etc.... On the other hand, 7/8 Series is a lot uglier than IOS. I guess I shouldn't have said I'd never used either one before. I've had some experience with each, just not enough to really get to know either one. :D

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Because it is? It's blatantly obvious - slide to unlock, launcher, toilet paper scroller applications, locked out architecture, etc., etc.... On the other hand, 7/8 Series is a lot uglier than IOS. I guess I shouldn't have said I'd never used either one before. I've had some experience with each, just not enough to really get to know either one. :D

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You do know whet ever it is your smoking to make you come up with that has been proven to kill brain cells right?
 
Was excited about 1020 till I saw sample photos. It's looks like 920.

808 PureView takes much, much better photos, has a bigger sensors and much better IQ.

Nokia messed up the camera with 1020.

I'm just waiting for buying a N808 for a bargain price. It's still the better phone camera on the market. If you see the daylight samples you'll note that N808 produces less noise and you get a broader dynamic range.
 
With a sensor that small, 41MP will produce extremely noisy photos. They have the logic wrong on this, unless we're talking about daylight shots.

don't display your apple fanboy ignorance. The 1/1.5" sensor is larger than whats inside some DSLRs
 
Yes. Just like cheese, yogurt and butter are all just "milk."

Can you come up with a real distinction between the two? They're just arbitrary terms for the same thing. How are they as different as butter, yogurt and cheese?

I mean, classic Mac OS applications comprised a data fork and a resource fork (bunch of resources), and obviously Windows applications didn't, but they were still both applications programmed in C, or C++, or Java or Basic (okay, C or C++ and maybe Java..). They were both executable files on a computer. Still are. Just because they way you "launch" them is slightly different (kinda like the buttons from the old Launcher in System 7.x+) doesn't mean they're not all apps.

Nitpicking word choice without any sort of semantic distinction is a bit pointless. It's like saying to someone with an accent "it's pronounced 'moral responsibility,' not 'maral rasponsabilitee,' so your argument is invalid."

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don't display your apple fanboy ignorance. The 1/1.5" sensor is larger than whats inside some DSLRs

I too was confused by these comments. I'm far from an expert on cameras, and my initial reaction was "pointless," until I saw the size of the sensor-- which to me looked huge, and quashed my doubts.

People throw around "apple fanboy" too much.
 
Windows or Windows Mobile? Windows is more useful than IOS, but it's also a desktop platform and doesn't run as well on a cellphone. Windows mobile phone on the other hand is a ridiculously silly copy of IOS. I've never used an IOS device or a Windows Mobile 7/8 device before (although I used to have a Windows Mobile 2003 and 6 device, which is completely different), but it's obvious that Microsoft wasn't happy with their Windows Mobile userbase, so they "quit" so to speak, and made their version of IOS, Windows Mobile Phone 7 Series. It worked kind of like IOS, but had less applications, less functionality, and looked downright ugly, so nobody bought it.

Would you rather buy an expensive and good looking original or a cheesy and ugly knockoff with a novelty camera?

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To say that Windows phone is a copy of iOS is probably the funniest and incorrect thing I have ever heard, lol. If anything Apple is copying Microsoft with iOS7. If you hate Microsoft, fine, but don't post something that is so wrong.

I have had an iPhone since they came out and 2 months ago went to Windows 8 and I am sorry but the iPhone really is limited in all you can do. I have had 2 iPads and recently bought an Asus VivoTab RT and am in love with it. The thing is Apple is not letting you do more with your phone in iOS 7. They are just making it look prettier. I am not an Apple hater, I have had only Mac computers since 2000 and when I buy my next laptop it will be Apple. Apple is just stale in the mobile industry that's not really an opinion, more of a fact. If Apple came up with something crazy new and did all I want, I would probably go back to Apple. The only mobile entity copying anyone is Google!
 
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