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Who will be employed on that store formerly Best Buy staff who doesn't know anything about computer. The only answer they can give you is press Ctrl+Alt+Del one time solution. If you have more problems they will suggest you to buy Anti-Virus software. I would love to go to their store just to bitch on their not so genius staff, and when they got pissed they will tell you to call their call centers in India. LOL!
Unhelpful and knowledgeable retail staff? Sounds like a ripoff of Apple, and just about every other retailer as well!
 
Don't anyone try to gloss over the fact that George Blankenship was in charge of creating the Apple Store for Steve Jobs. It's not like he was head of Gap Inc. strategy for their stores in the late 90s. Come to think of it, the Apple Store in no way resembles the Gap. Whitewashed walls, brightly lit, natural wood finishes. Apple ripped off the Gap, and we think M$ is the only one in the business of copying...
Steve Jobs was also on the board of directors at Gap Inc.

While appearance of a store and location, location, location gets people into a store, it is the products and service that make or break a sale.
 
Microsoft is not doing this to make money. This is just one more of the sick and twisted ideas to come from Steve Ballmer. Ballmer just wants to show all the other big boys that he is one of them too. Like how he decided google was getting to big. So he tried to buy yahoo. They said no at first. What did ballmer do. He went ape ****. Through a big fit.
Now that Apple has been gaining sales and popularity. He wants to put a damper on it. So what does he do? He has microsuck build a few stores just like Apple.
Financially it will cost more to keep them open. Then they'll bring in. So what, Microsoft can afford it. Keep them around for a few years then close them up.
Let Ballmer feel like he is a big time player.

Monkey boy steve ballmer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc
 
On the other hand, I liked the Sony stores because the atmosphere (at least the one nearest me) was more like a high-end electronics shop than a place like Best Buy. Where you develop working relationships with the sales people. And, you can negotiate, rather easily even:

(after a few minutes of discussion about a camcorder)
Me: "... ok, so I'm interested. Can you better than $1299?"
Salesperson: *checks computer* "I can sell it to you for $1238."
Me: "Throw in a couple of tapes?"
Salesperson: "Sure."
Me: "Great, we have a deal."

Getting a deal at Best Buy is like pulling teeth. And a month after the transaction I received a thank-you card in the mail from the salesperson, hoping I was satisfied with the camera.

Tapes?! What cameras use tapes anymore?
 
A Guru Bar? Do they really need someone to stand there and say, "Oh, that's Dell's fault. Check with them"?
 
I know, I work for a tech company that uses windows, and you soon realize all the software company's that are invested in writing programs to run on windows, it's massive. The business world runs on windows & that is not going to change anytime soon.

You realize that you could go back 30 years and say the same about IBM. Things do change and the shift away from Microsoft is pretty clear. 10 years ago, you had to fight tooth-and-nail to keep Macs in the office and now, they're all over the place. It won't happen overnight and Microsoft won't ever completely disappear, but their days of dominating all aspects of enterprise are coming to an end.
 
Just like Apple limit 3rd party software in their own AppStore?

.. and the difference is?

I am referring to the selection of hardware. Microsoft rips on Apple for having few computer choices. And yet now they will limit the options showcased in their own stores because their "choices" and lack of making their own hardware and software together ends up in a mess and confusion for their customers. In doing this they are inherently confirming that lol. That has nothing to do with Apple denying some Apps in the App Store. :rolleyes:

Well done lad, now you may almost kiss Steve's feet! And play with the big boys here :D

Haha. Well I am reading a series of articles about the history of the computer industry and the more I learn about Microsoft and their business ethics and practices the more furious I get. I know Apple is not perfect, but I respect their model and approach and products.

Check them out, there are tons:

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/Q4.06/2E6D9BB2-FE1B-4556-8389-67BD581FBCCC.html
 
Ok... HAH! Microsoft is going to open a 'Guru Bar' yet they haven't figured out how to fix this?

blue-screen-of-death1.jpg

Give me an eff'n break.
 
You're right, but that doesn't change the fact that I hate my job. I really work for Apple, and I have to go around every single time I work there telling people not to believe rumor sites like this one. It's actually pretty ironic.

Apparently you don't believe that Apple employees could ever possibly be on this website.

Well, I'm Steve Jobs and you are FIRED!
(nonetheless, it's possible to hate any job. Going to work for Microsoft at a retail store seems like a great idea! Have fun! /s)
 
I am still trying to figure out what they are going to sell in the stores. They don't make anything of any real significance, other than a really crappy operating system. Apple had no choice. They had to open retail stores because they are the only ones who sell their computers, software, and hardware, until very recently you either bought at apple.com or at one of their retail stores.

I guess Microsoft will work out a deal with Dell and HP, but still it's not like you can't just go already to Best Buy, COMP USA, Circuit City, HH Greg and half a dozen other big chain stores and get a HP or Dell. Sony has their own Sony Style showcase stores in most major cities. So again what the hell is Microsoft going to sell at their stores which is going to set them apart from Best Buy, etc.

Their new operating system is still garbage, it just has new packaging and new a name, still the same old Microsoft under the hood. Only someone really gullible would actually believe that Microsoft has actually created a new stable operating system, that wont have to have half dozen anti-virus and spy-ware programs running alongside the operating system. I mean yes their crap is cheap in cost, which will always make it attractive to less knowledgeable buyers. But do they really need a specialty store to con people out of their money.


If you were Microsoft would you really want people playing around in your stores in such a high profile setting and having people walk buy and see a frozen computer screen or the dreaded "Warning your computer is infected with (list virus) please pay $49.99 urgently or you could lose all your data" Best to keep those things between you and your gullible customers.
 
If some of the stores are right next to Apple stores, I think it would lead to some great window displays.

or not. Apple is likely to ignore the stores and just focus on being Apple.

Given that Microsoft isn't going to sell any computers in their stores (at least not right now), they aren't likely to be a huge threat to a shop were you can walk in with a wad of cash and walk out with a new computer, a printer, a wireless router, an external hard drive for backups, productivity software, some art programs, a few games (just picked up Sims 3 for my roommate when I went to get the Final Cut and Logic upgrades for the office) etc. AND for a mere $100 get a file transfer from that XP machine of yours and a years training on your new computer. not bad.

You'd think they would want to open many stores in time for Christmas not just 2.:confused:

these are just the test stores. similar neighborhoods (money wise) not in an Apple mall, one in a not. see which does the best.

I'm looking forward to these microsoft stores - it will encourage Apple to only improve their stores more

there's not much else Apple can do to improve their stores other than perhaps more floor space, a workshop theatre in all stores and trainers that know all their apps (wouldn't hurt if the sales people know a bit about those pro apps)


I don't think Apple wants to have a huge market share that badly.

lack of a huge market share is how Psystar lost their first law suit. it is what makes it 'legal' for Apple to tie hardware and software. so while I think yes they are looking for more buyers, I suspect they aren't gunning for a big 50% plus. 25-30% is huge at this point, given that they have like 7% at the moment

In Snobsdale? Those people are the anti-laptop-hunters. They buy stuff 'cuz it's purdy.

Big miss on that one. Should have been in a less affluent area.

that is exactly why it is a shrewd move. those with money are the ones that can afford to buy big, especially if they see value in it. a 'cheaper' company has to show that there is the same value with a smaller ticket. doing that is actually harder than selling to those that simply can't buy higher.
 
Ok... HAH! Microsoft is going to open a 'Guru Bar' yet they haven't figured out how to fix this?

blue-screen-of-death1.jpg

Give me an eff'n break.

Haven't seen that since XP, never once happened on my Vista PC. The memory allocation won't let it.
 
Yes indeed. The anti-MS Apple fanboys are out in full force today. Quality entertainment. But please tell me, what did you own before a Mac?

In my case, A Pied Piper Computer... <Google it> ;)

I did my first computer graphics on an Apple ][ Plus in High School.

I've only purchased IBM Compatibles (since a Mac is technically a PC) for my business. However, I've been the proud owner of Macintoshes since the Classic/LC3 days.

The Mac OS (and the computers that run it) are just TOO enjoyable to use.

'nuff said.
 
Haven't seen that since XP, never once happened on my Vista PC. The memory allocation won't let it.

you guy's are totally missing the point. Seriously, you LOOKED at that error and then went off to try and trouble shoot a sarcastic comment on a forum?

Wow. Congrats.

*not tdream as much as the other guy. Oh well, best thing Microsoft could do would to be to build in a function for quickly rebooting your computer.
 
We all have issues don't we?

I have issues with my Macs and the Genius bar techs scratch their heads too.

The MS store is a total rip off, but who knows, they might just do a better job at it than Apple.

May even pay their employees a decent wage too.
 
I guess that won't be allowed in MS Stores, unless they hire the al least the double amount of staff to reinstall each PC several times a day and do hourly firewall/viruscheck updates.

cause they won't have any computers to use. other than the token ones running in kiosk mode.


Apparently you don't believe that Apple employees could ever possibly be on this website.

I feel fairly sure that there's a rule at Apple, like many other companies, to stay off sites like this. at risk of your job. suppose that's why you haven't given your real name and exactly which store you work at.

and if you hate it so much, leave. If you are smart enough to see how awful working there is, you are more than smart enough to find another better job.

Plain and simple: anytime I hear another employee excitedly say "No, anyone can help you out, we're NOT on commission!" I have to ask myself, do these morons know what they're missing out on???

so i'm confused. are you mad because while you are taking care of the customer they pushed off, they are back in the back playing coke pong and looking up videos of Megan Fox on their iphones.

or because you get the sale, get the credit for it, look like the great employee who might get one of those elusive promotions when you really didn't want the extra hours, more pay etc
 
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