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Microsoft Signs Leases to Open Retail Stores in Arizona and California
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I do not see these stores failing, I seem them existing. MS has plenty of exposure and marketshare for its products. Apple needed the Apple Store to garner more exposure.
I think Gamestop should be more worried than Apple should. MS making full margin on Xbox and PC games will be a tempting fruit to pursue.
I think Gamestop should be more worried than Apple should. MS making full margin on Xbox and PC games will be a tempting fruit to pursue.
Microsoft- Op Income ~ $22.5 Billion, Employees ~ 90,000
Apple- Op Income ~ $6.2 Billion, Employees ~ 33,000
So MS has 2.7 x employees of Apple, yet 3.6 x Op Income.
(Please Note- Operating Income does not equal the final profit, it is closer to 'turnover' but more sophisticated)
I seriously HATE Microsoft sooo much lol! They rip on Apple for having no choice and boast how the PC world is ripe with choice and options, yet in their OWN STORES they will limit 3rd party hardware and options...WHY??? TO NOT CONFUSE CUSTOMERS AND MAKE THE EXPERIENCE "SEAMLESS". And this is all while COMPLETELY ripping off Apple's stores and Genius Bars and somehow claiming that doing that is NOT copying Apple but "INNOVATING FOR THE LONG TERM". LOL, seriously, can you be a bigger rip off artist and hypocrite?
Apple's retail stores are the most profitable of ANY retail stores period. And here Microsoft is going to open stores that do not center around purchasing lol.
I can't wait to watch you fail like you always do Microsoft!
Apple's retail stores are the most profitable of ANY retail stores period. And here Microsoft is going to open stores that do not center around purchasing lol.
I can't wait to watch you fail like you always do Microsoft!
3.6 x the operating income, and 9 x the market share. I would think with the massive majority of the market Microsoft has, they would pull in more money than they do. I am thinking if Apple had ~25% market share and Microsoft had 70% Apple would earn more.
Microsoft is irrelevant
Microsoft is becoming increasingly more irrelevant every day. Apple has been eating away at PC/Windows market share for quite some time, and open source efforts have also taken a bite out of MS dominance. Most PC people I know prefer to use Firefox or Safari compared with Explorer.
Wasn't the Zune supposed to kill the iPod/iPhone? Ha! The same thing will happen here. Anything MS touches turns to sh*t. I used to work there, I know. I'm proud to say that I got fired after I refused to attend any more useless meetings where nobody actually accomplished anything. I didn't fit their mold of a robot very well ... lol ...
MS is dying.
Microsoft is becoming increasingly more irrelevant every day. Apple has been eating away at PC/Windows market share for quite some time, and open source efforts have also taken a bite out of MS dominance. Most PC people I know prefer to use Firefox or Safari compared with Explorer.
Wasn't the Zune supposed to kill the iPod/iPhone? Ha! The same thing will happen here. Anything MS touches turns to sh*t. I used to work there, I know. I'm proud to say that I got fired after I refused to attend any more useless meetings where nobody actually accomplished anything. I didn't fit their mold of a robot very well ... lol ...
MS is dying.
What I find difficult about threads like these is, that whatever you say is even in the slightest favour of what seems to be the arch-enemy of just about everyone here, will be ridiculed or explained away. I know this is an Apple forum, sure, but some of the replies really makes me wonder if there's life beyond Apple.
To sum it up: MS never had an original idea of their own. If they come up with something new, they stole it from Apple. They make profit but nearly not enough when compared to..... Apple. They lock their customers into buying their products (now that I find a good one). In this thread alone their are more accounts of stop errors than I have had in my whole life (but this remark will be explained away or I have just been incredibly lucky).
This reply will label me as an MS fanboy but no explanation will suffice and is altogether unnecessary. And I'm too old to howl along with all the other wolves in the forest so I'll leave it at this. Peace to you all.
To sum it up: MS never had an original idea of their own. If they come up with something new, they stole it from Apple. They make profit but nearly not enough when compared to..... Apple. They lock their customers into buying their products (now that I find a good one). In this thread alone their are more accounts of stop errors than I have had in my whole life (but this remark will be explained away or I have just been incredibly lucky).
This reply will label me as an MS fanboy but no explanation will suffice and is altogether unnecessary. And I'm too old to howl along with all the other wolves in the forest so I'll leave it at this. Peace to you all.
Just like Apple limit 3rd party software in their own AppStore?
.. and the difference is?
Reality: Apple have managed to reduce microsoft windows user base by a few percent world wide...
Yes, we all like Apple, but really...
.. and the difference is?
I seriously HATE Microsoft sooo much lol! They rip on Apple for having no choice and boast how the PC world is ripe with choice and options, yet in their OWN STORES they will limit 3rd party hardware and options...WHY??? TO NOT CONFUSE CUSTOMERS AND MAKE THE EXPERIENCE "SEAMLESS". And this is all while COMPLETELY ripping off Apple's stores and Genius Bars and somehow claiming that doing that is NOT copying Apple but "INNOVATING FOR THE LONG TERM". LOL, seriously, can you be a bigger rip off artist and hypocrite?
Apple's retail stores are the most profitable of ANY retail stores period. And here Microsoft is going to open stores that do not center around purchasing lol.
I can't wait to watch you fail like you always do Microsoft!
Reality: Apple have managed to reduce microsoft windows user base by a few percent world wide...
Yes, we all like Apple, but really...
Being that they are building Microsoft stores says it all. Job cuts doesn't necessarily mean financial problems or shortages and certainly doesn't reflect how much "in-hand" cash the company has for stuff like marketing and R&D. Both Microsoft and Apple have plenty of cash for lame projects like this. Basically shows the government that they are spending money on the business development.
I seriously HATE Microsoft sooo much lol! They rip on Apple for having no choice and boast how the PC world is ripe with choice and options, yet in their OWN STORES they will limit 3rd party hardware and options...WHY??? TO NOT CONFUSE CUSTOMERS AND MAKE THE EXPERIENCE "SEAMLESS". And this is all while COMPLETELY ripping off Apple's stores and Genius Bars and somehow claiming that doing that is NOT copying Apple but "INNOVATING FOR THE LONG TERM". LOL, seriously, can you be a bigger rip off artist and hypocrite?
Apple's retail stores are the most profitable of ANY retail stores period. And here Microsoft is going to open stores that do not center around purchasing lol.
I can't wait to watch you fail like you always do Microsoft!
Well done lad, now you may almost kiss Steve's feet! And play with the big boys here
Plain and simple: anytime I hear another employee excitedly say "No, anyone can help you out, we're NOT on commission!" I have to ask myself, do these morons know what they're missing out on??? Really, are you proud that base pay is all you're going to get no matter how well you do?
Promotions are few and far in between. Easier to quit and get and reapply from what I've seen.
MS is dying, really?
They have the most popular OS (Windows),
The most popular office program (Office)
The 2nd most popular game console (xbox 360).
The most support in the business world.
I think they are doing fine...
Bear in mind Apple are primarily a hardware company and Microsoft a software one. Although MS make a big margin on each software sale the gross margin expressed in dollars is much smaller.
Or you were just incompetent.
And this is Microsoft's big problem, they are acting like an angsty teenager that cannot stand to think that they are not perfect at EVERYTHING. I was that kid once. I was a wanna-be at everything that someone else did that was cool. If someone succeeded at something and I didn't, I was angry and bitter -- overlooking the many other things that I could do that they couldn't. And sometimes my attitude was "if I can't have it, then you can't have it either". Regretfully there were a number of sabotaged relationships because I couldn't grasp that I needed to find my own thing, not try to be someone else.
This is evident in everything Microsoft has been doing. They have their core products -- Windows and Office -- but instead of focusing on steadily improving them, they insist on trying to be the best at everything else, too. Gaming platform? We'll build one too and KILL Sony! Internet browser? We'll build one too and KILL Netscape! Search engine? We'll build one too and KILL Google! Music player? We'll ...
Microsoft seems to want to have a finger in every pie out there. In quite a few places, they're doing very well. In others, they are floundering badly.
Although MS has a much larger market share in terms of the computer market, Apple's iPod sales rightly dwarf Zune sales. iPod/iTunes form a large portion of Apple's income, so the figures are not an indication of Mac revenue. Consider also that Apple sells computers whilst MS only the operating system on computers, the profit for these products will vary.
It is extremely difficult to assess who has the greatest operating income in terms of relative market share, which is exactly why I never attempted to do that.
(I only ever stated that MS had a larger market share, and a larger op income per employee. I never related the market share to operating income)
A one to three hour car ride (depending on traffic) to Mission Viejo probably isn't worth going to see the store at the moment.
If I were in the neighborhood I would check it out though.
If I were in the neighborhood I would check it out though.
You know, I actually want to see the new stores and play with their multi- touch computer thing. Win7 might just bring MS back into some good light.
Anytime I hear someone state that Microsoft is dying, I just assume that they are either a) An MS Basher b) Still in school c) Don't work in an office d) Completely oblivious to computer technology and/or corporate IT, though they probably wouldn't make such a statement unless for the sake of bashing
floundering badly: MSNBC, MSN, ZUNE, SEARCH?
Doing very well: Window's, xbox 360, xbox live, office?
Hmmm, you got fired because you refused to attend meetings... okie-dokie.
"Useless meetings where nobody actually accomplished anything"... well that tells me you never worked anywhere you had to attend meetings, because it is a general consensus in the business world that meetings never accomplish anything.
I know, I work for a tech company that uses windows, and you soon realize all the software company's that are invested in writing programs to run on windows, it's massive. The business world runs on windows & that is not going to change anytime soon. To many people have a lot money invested in windows surviving... If Apple died it would have a little effect in business world, however if Microsoft died the business world would grind to a halt...
Not so Genius
Who will be employed on that store formerly Best Buy staff who doesn't know anything about computer. The only answer they can give you is press Ctrl+Alt+Del one time solution. If you have more problems they will suggest you to buy Anti-Virus software. I would love to go to their store just to bitch on their not so genius staff, and when they got pissed they will tell you to call their call centers in India. LOL!
Who will be employed on that store formerly Best Buy staff who doesn't know anything about computer. The only answer they can give you is press Ctrl+Alt+Del one time solution. If you have more problems they will suggest you to buy Anti-Virus software. I would love to go to their store just to bitch on their not so genius staff, and when they got pissed they will tell you to call their call centers in India. LOL!