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Microsoft Surface Estimated to Have Sold Only 1.7 Million Units Since Launch
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If the Zune was successful <pause for laughter> then it might have actually made sense to call it the Zurface.
Do you have a source for your claim of 300 million iPads sold? Off the top of my head I would think its closer to half that number (150M).
155 million iPads sold through the end of Q2 2013.
(To be fair, I don't think he ever specified that he was referring to iPad sales numbers.)
The ship has sailed on the number one tablet platform.
You're right, for the last 12 months iPad market share has been heading very rapidly in reverse...within a year Android will have similar numbers globally to its phone market share (80%+)
I usually agree with most of your comments here but these two statements alone are making me question that.
Besides the fact that the registry was a ridiculously huge blunder from the point of view of elegant systems design, these above two issues are probably the main reason why pre Vista SP1 Windows systems significantly slow down with age.
Yup, I think it will be hard to turn the tide. But just like Android's phone marketshare hasn't really hurt Apple's phone sales, I doubt its increasing tablet marketshare will impact iPad sales much.
My experience is not based on anything empirical, but it seems to me that Android purchases are primarily budget-driven, whereas iOS purchases lean towards the higher end of the market.
From what I hear, Apple holds a similarly dominant position in the high-end PC market.
In the words of Steve Jobs (when asked about his return to Apple in 1997): "People had this idea that for Apple to win, Microsoft had to lose. That wasn't the case. For Apple to win, Apple just had to remember what Apple was."
Apple introduced the personal computer, IBM followed suit and dominated the market.
Apple introduced GUI-driven OS, Microsoft followed with Windows and dominated the market.
Apple introduced iPod and, uhm, well, they own that market ;-)
Apple introduced the iPhone, Google followed suit with Android and dominates the market.
For Apple to win, Android doesn't have to lose. Apple just to stay Apple, continue to innovate and lead, and not worry too much about marketshare.
That's what I think, anyway.
Well, I can be wrong about some things, you know.
From what I understand of the registry, it's not nearly the most elegant solution to what it does, but it does do the job. The biggest problem with it is that the OS doesn't do any housecleaning whatsoever with it. If any program leaves behind any keys during an uninstall (and most do), they're there forever. This means that overtime the registry does bloat up.
But with modern computers, the registry never gets so large that it takes forever to read. I want to say that the average size of all the registry hives taken together lies anywhere between 32 and 150 MB depending on how many and what kind of programs you have installed. Even since the early days of XP, a computer could probably parse through that in no time flat. And even beyond that, it's broken down into smaller subsections so it doesn't have to read through the entire thing at once to find what it needs. On a rough guesstimation, I'd say registry bloat on a modern computer would only add about a second or two to your boot times every 4 years or so.
So no, it's not elegant in the least, and yes, it could be a helluva lot better. I doubt anyone would complain if MS replaced it with something a little more streamlined. But it's not very problematic, either. It lumbers along, doing what it does without any complaint.
I think I've only had one registry related problem in all my years using Windows, and that was only because Adobe is stupid with their installers.
Former MS guy Robert Scoble comes out to Australia, and explains why it is rooted
Article is worth a read
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/te...ompany-star-robert-scoble-20130807-2rgch.html
Article is worth a read
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/te...ompany-star-robert-scoble-20130807-2rgch.html
This was a great article. MS is definitely crumbling like the Roman empire. I don't know if they need to eject Ballmer, or if it's even too late for that, but they need a huge upheaval of their entire core belief system. The mobile market is rapidly passing them by.
hahaha, lol, poor microsoft, all those cheap shots at apple, all those surface vs ipad mini ads, all those millions of dollars of marketing, it couldn't help you, could it? learn from apple, they chose to forgive you, they didnt make fun of you in their ad.
Hm? The point I was trying to make wasn't that Windows is better, I was just using my own anecdotal evidence as an example of how it contradicts what he said. Again, not trying to say either platform is better. No need for the snarkiness, especially considering you completely missed the point of what I was saying.
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Oh, I agree, Windows 8 sucks. I don't have it, but I was going to upgrade to it until I tried it out at a store and saw how horrible it was. The only reason for my comment was that the person I replied to was one of many people who still seem to be under the impression that Windows is as horrible as it was in 1997. I was mainly defending Windows 7.
I responded to what I read which was:
I understood what you wrote above. Maybe it's not what you meant. I can only respond to actual words on the screen not thoughts in your head. The above seems to imply that Macs are buggy and PCs never are.
And on the anecdotal part, I think hypocrisy always deserves a good snark. You did criticize the OP for using anecdotal evidence then try to make a point with your own. That I fully understand.
maybe the 2nd versions of the surface pro and RT will do better, i quite like the surface RT and i might go with a newer version of it. one more thing which microsoft needs to concentrate on is :updating the windows 8, there should be more MAJOR updates adding more stuff and fixing all the bugs and security holes.
I thought my implications were pretty clear. I didn't say that Windows PCs are never buggy. It was the equivalent of criticizing a bully for making fun of someone's flaws by pointing out that they have flaws of their own. You wouldn't be trying to make the bully feel bad about his own flaws, you'd be explaining why it's petty to make fun of someone like that. Similarly, I was using a counterexample to demonstrate how anecdotal evidence works both ways, canceling each other out. Do you understand now?
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Everyone thinks their own implications are clear. That doesn't meant its written in a way others are able to easilly draw the intended inference. That's not the readers fault.
Re your use of anecdotes. I call it like I see it. It looks hypocritical. I don't think you meant it as counters example or you wouldn't be so sensitive to me calling it out. Rather you would have just said it was tounge n cheek right off the bat.
Everyone thinks their own implications are clear. That doesn't meant its written in a way others are able to easilly draw the intended inference. That's not the readers fault.
Re your use of anecdotes. I call it like I see it. It looks hypocritical. I don't think you meant it as counters example or you wouldn't be so sensitive to me calling it out. Rather you would have just said it was tounge n cheek right off the bat.
well that's because the windows 8 is a total disaster, it's has the worst UI i have ever seen. the surface tablets are also very thick and heavy. how can anyone expect the surface line to be successful.
$100 off is hardly a "fire sale".
Surface 2 is due soon and even Apple discounts previous models when a new one replaces it.
Spoken like someone who has not used Win 8 or a Surface for more than 30 seconds on a display model.
The Surface RT is thinner than iPad by .4 mm and only 1 oz heavier.
The Surface Pro is an ultrabook in a tablet format. Better compared with a Macbook Air than an iPad.
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$100 off is hardly a "fire sale".
Surface 2 is due soon and even Apple discounts previous models when a new one replaces it.
When's the last time Apple had to make a 900 million dollar write-off? The price drop has nothing to do with a new model coming out. By Microsoft's own admission, the Surface is not selling.