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Microsoft Takes on Apple's Entry-Level iPad With 10-inch 'Surface Go' Starting at $399
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What’s stopping you from just selling it online? Trade-ins tend to offer less money overall.
399 is a nice price point... however the cost of mouse, keyboard and stylus (as depicted in the ad) will bring the total cost to a minimum of 662USD.
I know the counter argument: "The iPad Pro doesn't come with accessories either." True, but the iPad is a tablet, its designed to work without keyboard or mouse. The Surface is really not a tablet, its a laptop with missing keyboard.
I know the counter argument: "The iPad Pro doesn't come with accessories either." True, but the iPad is a tablet, its designed to work without keyboard or mouse. The Surface is really not a tablet, its a laptop with missing keyboard.
Personally, I think it's pretty cool. As a Mac user, I'm never going to drop some serious coin on a Windows device, but I like Microsoft's design and there's a few things on Windows I can use for work (and for fun, Xbox streaming). Is it going to replace any of my devices? No. But, it may be fun to tinker on.
What's your point? You can freely update Windows S to a full Windows Home with one click. Or did you stop watching after the Windows S part?
Windows S has it's advantages for schools.
Well from what I understand it’s basically Skylake cores so should be decent, but is limited to 1.6Ghz no Turbo Boost which is disappointing.
I’ve owned surface pro 4, and the battery life was horrible. Plus that keyboard always had sleep issues when folded up. Not saying that all Microsoft products are bad, I do own a surface laptop which has been outstanding, core i5 4 gigs of ram. Battery life is great. Lack of ports might be a issue on it for some but buying it new for 699.00 was a no brainer. Plus they fixed the sleep issue finally. Bad news is the surface laptop is the least popular of the surface line. 10 inch is small for a windows machine as scaling is not as good as on my iPad 2018. And yup it makes a difference. I just found out I’ve got go to eye surgery for cateracs.
Where did you read it is eMMC? I read it’s an NVME SSD. Not that I care at all about this device.
I did some more digging and it appears the 128/256gb sizes are NVME while 64gb is eMMC.
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This is the RT disaster all over again. I agree with you.
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That changes things a little, but the Pentium line is still WAY too slow. People won't know why their photoshop program doesn't run like on an i7 desktop. They will blame the Surface. That is one good reason that the iPad doesn't run Mac programs.
I switched to a Surface Pro from an iPad Pro and MacBook Pro and have been nothing but happy. I have had no UX issues.
I switched to Apple probably over a decade ago and was pleased living in their ecosystem and quality UX over my buggy windows existence. However, I feel MS has made strides lately and I love working on my Surface Pro.
The UX may not be for you, but there are those of us out there that are absolutely fine with it.
I had the full boat of Mac products, but recently as they have stagnated I am down to nothing more than the phone. Earlier this morning my fiancé and I had the conversation to get rid of the iMac and AppleTVs as we switched to 4K Firesticks.
I’d love for Apple to release something that could excite me again. The Surface line has its flaws and is not the most innovative product on the market. At least they are trying though. Apple has been mailing it in for years at this point.
I love the ad. Though the surface's problem is not the hardware, Microsoft never got the app resolutions to screen size ratio right out of the box. Plus the Windows 10 UI does not work with that form factor. Either too small or way to big.
I remember, back when we got a new Surface, trying to find a resolution that fits was a real deal breaker and killed the buzz right away. Plus Windows S, only apps from the apps store? Well... it could work, but naaaaah....
I remember, back when we got a new Surface, trying to find a resolution that fits was a real deal breaker and killed the buzz right away. Plus Windows S, only apps from the apps store? Well... it could work, but naaaaah....
I had all those problems plus hibernation issues, overheating, etc. I owned the 2,3, and 4 before the iPad Pro 12.9" came out and I realized that all my favorite applications now had awesome companion apps for the iPad (like Scrivener, Wordpress, etc.,).
Who they think they are? Apple?
The base model is useless as a PC, with only 4GB of RAM, dinky processor behind the Core M, and 64Gb of disk, you aren’t running much of Photoshop and Corel Draw, don’t get me started on Fusion 360.
The pen costs $99, who they think they are? Apple?
The good keyboard costs $130, who they think they are? Apple?
And you NEED the keyboard for realistic Windows
The graphics capabilities makes it impossible to play both mobile games and Windows games, so it’s no fun.
No wonder the Surface line sells so little and the people buying them aren’t so satisfied with it (and those who are, are mostly because “it’s not Apple”)
The base model is useless as a PC, with only 4GB of RAM, dinky processor behind the Core M, and 64Gb of disk, you aren’t running much of Photoshop and Corel Draw, don’t get me started on Fusion 360.
The pen costs $99, who they think they are? Apple?
The good keyboard costs $130, who they think they are? Apple?
And you NEED the keyboard for realistic Windows
The graphics capabilities makes it impossible to play both mobile games and Windows games, so it’s no fun.
No wonder the Surface line sells so little and the people buying them aren’t so satisfied with it (and those who are, are mostly because “it’s not Apple”)
I've had a Surface Pro for about a year and don't even notice it doing the updates. So not sure what the hoopla is about updates. I don't even remember it asking me to reboot. Right after I got it there was one update that mucked with Bluetooth and it was fixed very quickly with another update. I don't see Apple being any better in recent years as they usually go through 3-4 dot releases to get it right.
On the storage side, I would probably not want a machine with this little memory unless it wasn't my main machine. That said, OneDrive now has the ability to do an "on demand" files access that is quite good. You can select files you want to stay on local storage always, or that are just pulled when needed. So more and more local storage becomes less important.
I'm just glad to see the competition.
He's spreading FUD. It's only eMMC in the 64GB configuration which is to compete with the entry level $349 32GB iPad for education market.
It's grossly overblown, there isn't an issue at all with updates. They are silent, in the background and you can choose exactly what times you want them installed. Sure you have to restart occasionally, but obviously you have to restart an ipad as well after an update. Other issues I find overblown are reliability issues and using windows on a tablet. I don't get the cries of "it's not a tablet", that just doesn't make sense to me in any way, shape or form.
Storage sucks, and is another Achilles heel in an already long list of Achilles heels for this device, just a very bad decision.
That’s the only natural reaction to me.
This concept should be considered unique and innovative - and then simply hammering it off because of Windows is just what Apple Federal Justice of the Schiller kind would do (that knows so much better what we need than we ourselves...NOT)
It deserves something better than Windows indeed, which implies it is far from wrong
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I can’t believe they even own an iPad. It’s well known that this poster finds Apple products lacking.
I also have a surface pro 4. It is bad. The keyboard isn't stable and typing over 100 wpm is impossible as it leads to inputs not being recognized. The touchscreen works great, but the Pro's i5 can't keep up with it. How the heck will this thing run with a budget processor and 4GB of RAM? One Note, a differentiating app for the Surface Pro breaks constantly as zooming in and out causes text written with the pen to vanish. The WiFi drops 2 to 3 times an hour. One Drive abuses the the pathetic SSD options, and when the drive gets 2/3rds full it reads slower than a 5400 rpm drive.
MS solution? Send it in and we will get it back to you in 8 to 10 weeks. That's half a semester without a laptop... goodbye and thanks for all the FDISK.
Personally, I refuse to buy anything Windows for home use. My employer uses Windows, but I would insist on at least a 13" screen (ideally bigger) for a work computer.
However, this is a neat little product. I'm interested to play around with it at a store, or to see if I can get a loaner through work. I know quite a few people that aren't "Apple people" but are looking for a new little and low-cost computer like this. On paper, it looks good enough to recommend, but I would have to see if it's good irl too.
However, this is a neat little product. I'm interested to play around with it at a store, or to see if I can get a loaner through work. I know quite a few people that aren't "Apple people" but are looking for a new little and low-cost computer like this. On paper, it looks good enough to recommend, but I would have to see if it's good irl too.