That's because their too busy applying the Vaseline when trying to figure out which version of winblows to buy!
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That's because their too busy applying the Vaseline when trying to figure out which version of winblows to buy!
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Tell me, do they go to Windows sites and troll too? That would be truly crazy.
Of course Mac users are going to be a little quicker to point out differences or explain their choice as they have consciously chosen an operating system other than the market leader. It's a self-selecting group. Someone who does that is obviously going to have reasons as opposed to someone who walks into Best Buy and buys whatever PC is cheapest. Does that not make sense to you?
Anyway, you're exaggerating a lot too. It sounds like you have a filter on your perceptions and you're extrapolating one or two ridiculous stereotypes out onto everything you see. I know lots of Mac users and, while many of them are happy to defend their choice of computer, none of them act in the cartoony the way you describe.
Maybe so, but your stupid if you believe that having MS try to copy everything doesn't make our Apple products better and cheaper. It does.
The more competition the better!!
Its about time !
I have been looking everywhere to find a good deal on a HP !
The other day a friend asked , where can I go to fix my Windows based POS..
...that stands for "Point Of Sale" .....its a cash register.
Not "Peace Of Sh$t" .....
Well, ...you ever see that "Discount Tires" Add ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QjTIm-vSKg
I think they should do something like that
I have been looking everywhere to find a good deal on a HP !
The other day a friend asked , where can I go to fix my Windows based POS..
...that stands for "Point Of Sale" .....its a cash register.
Not "Peace Of Sh$t" .....
Well, ...you ever see that "Discount Tires" Add ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QjTIm-vSKg
I think they should do something like that
Yes, but as a stuck up prick/mac user. I have more time to be one as I'm not spending 20hrs a month downloading patches, and running 31 flavors of spam/antiVr/trojan/malware crashing program crap. Or, spending endless hours searching for mysteriously missing .dill files, or reg errors or looking up ridiculously cryptic error messages, and trying to figure out why my printer isn't working.
Apple's retail stores are all style and no substance. The Microsoft stores will actually be USABLE, REAL stores, where the customer can walk in and do what they want, not be 'offered products' or told how to pay!! All those Apple store customers are just people who can't use a REAL store.
If Apple stores are so good, how come they are not 90% of computer stores, huh? Also the things you buy in an Apple store will not work with the things you buy from other retail stores. Try attaching an iPod to a bag of groceries - it won't work! This is because Apple is so lame.
At Microsoft they understand that retail stores are not just about looking pretty, people need to actually get work done, and that means being able to customise anything you want to, without Apple telling you what to do. In Microsoft's retail stores, you will be able to re-arrange the bricks how you want, shift load-bearing walls into any configuration and you can put the stairs sideways! You can't do that in your i-ApplePowerStore!
If none of that convinced you, remember that Apple Stores only have one-door entrance, I think they call it The Puck or something. Microsoft retails stores will have at least 3 doors and a scroll-floor, and you can configure them all to go wherever you want (as long as it's inside, or outside or round in circles) You can't right-enter in an Apple retail store with pressing modifier-handles or something.
If Apple stores are so good, how come they are not 90% of computer stores, huh? Also the things you buy in an Apple store will not work with the things you buy from other retail stores. Try attaching an iPod to a bag of groceries - it won't work! This is because Apple is so lame.
At Microsoft they understand that retail stores are not just about looking pretty, people need to actually get work done, and that means being able to customise anything you want to, without Apple telling you what to do. In Microsoft's retail stores, you will be able to re-arrange the bricks how you want, shift load-bearing walls into any configuration and you can put the stairs sideways! You can't do that in your i-ApplePowerStore!
If none of that convinced you, remember that Apple Stores only have one-door entrance, I think they call it The Puck or something. Microsoft retails stores will have at least 3 doors and a scroll-floor, and you can configure them all to go wherever you want (as long as it's inside, or outside or round in circles) You can't right-enter in an Apple retail store with pressing modifier-handles or something.
Right and when Gateway's retail collapsed, and people were comparing that to the success of the (at the time) new Apple Stores, wasn't one of the big reasons given that Apple actually had product on hand that people could take home with them, while at Gateway, you ordered for delivery/pickup?
Seems like yet another huge Microsoft blunder, oh well. Some things never change.
I love how inept the trolling is too. Consider his insult.
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Its because PC users don't have an orgasm every time Microsoft announces a new product line[...]
Yeah, why would that be?
I'm guessing erectile dysfunction (we are talking about micro and soft, right?)
Wouldn't this be all about raising awareness for Microsoft?
Sure, the majority of people use a Microsoft product, but the majority of people use this Microsoft product because they just think that that's what a computer is. I'm thinking about my parents here. They don't have a clue about computers and, just like in the adverts, they think it is a case of "PC" or Mac. Not Windows or Linux or Chrome or OS X... They're computer is a Dell or whatever. There's no mention of Microsoft.
If Microsoft actually makes the general non-computer-savvy public know that they make this OS, as a separate entity from the actual computers they (the public) are buying, then Microsoft can make them aware of its features, of its productivity uses, of their software, of all of these things' links to their other products... Zune, Xbox, their mobile phone OS... In this way, they are very much a similar company to Apple.
What i imagine Microsoft's aim is, is to make people aware that they actually make an OS. That Windows isn't just something thrown into, and made as part of, every computer that's churned out. That this OS has features and uses.
Going to their ad campaigns, "I'm a PC and i do this..." etc. That was a stupid mistake for them to make - but perhaps one they had to since their only other choices were to remain quiet or talk about an OS, Vista, that near everyone had written off. Even the shopper ads are silly, focusing on the hardware aspects they (Microsoft) have nothing to do with - again, this was really the only choice they had left at the time.
I'd say they need to (and they probably plan to) get away from that whole "PC" term and start using the terms "Windows", "Microsoft" and "OS", especially with Chrome on the horizon. For average Joe, Chrome may very well be the first glimpse of "It's a PC... but that isn't Windows...?". They will start selling THEMSELVES. Their own products and offerings. I'd imagine that Windows 7 will be the start of this, that this is where they're headed, and that these retail stores/galleries aren't as silly an idea as a few of you are making out. They could very well be setting themselves up as a proper competitor to everything Apple, just by letting people know that "Oh, an iPhone? But a Windows Mobile phone works with these Windows 7 features and Microsoft software/programs. An iPod? But with the new Zune HD you can use Microsoft's new music streaming software seamlessly. You can also use this on your Xbox".
Of course, there's also the possibility that Microsoft are lacking direction entirely and are just throwing out any ideas they can muster with retail stores/galleries being the most recent.
(Note, i am not someone who buys, or has any plans nor desires to buy any Microsoft product. But you have to be able to discuss things with an open and unbiased mind or your comments are just going to be dismissed as fanboyish, uninformed or lacking any real thought).
Sure, the majority of people use a Microsoft product, but the majority of people use this Microsoft product because they just think that that's what a computer is. I'm thinking about my parents here. They don't have a clue about computers and, just like in the adverts, they think it is a case of "PC" or Mac. Not Windows or Linux or Chrome or OS X... They're computer is a Dell or whatever. There's no mention of Microsoft.
If Microsoft actually makes the general non-computer-savvy public know that they make this OS, as a separate entity from the actual computers they (the public) are buying, then Microsoft can make them aware of its features, of its productivity uses, of their software, of all of these things' links to their other products... Zune, Xbox, their mobile phone OS... In this way, they are very much a similar company to Apple.
What i imagine Microsoft's aim is, is to make people aware that they actually make an OS. That Windows isn't just something thrown into, and made as part of, every computer that's churned out. That this OS has features and uses.
Going to their ad campaigns, "I'm a PC and i do this..." etc. That was a stupid mistake for them to make - but perhaps one they had to since their only other choices were to remain quiet or talk about an OS, Vista, that near everyone had written off. Even the shopper ads are silly, focusing on the hardware aspects they (Microsoft) have nothing to do with - again, this was really the only choice they had left at the time.
I'd say they need to (and they probably plan to) get away from that whole "PC" term and start using the terms "Windows", "Microsoft" and "OS", especially with Chrome on the horizon. For average Joe, Chrome may very well be the first glimpse of "It's a PC... but that isn't Windows...?". They will start selling THEMSELVES. Their own products and offerings. I'd imagine that Windows 7 will be the start of this, that this is where they're headed, and that these retail stores/galleries aren't as silly an idea as a few of you are making out. They could very well be setting themselves up as a proper competitor to everything Apple, just by letting people know that "Oh, an iPhone? But a Windows Mobile phone works with these Windows 7 features and Microsoft software/programs. An iPod? But with the new Zune HD you can use Microsoft's new music streaming software seamlessly. You can also use this on your Xbox".
Of course, there's also the possibility that Microsoft are lacking direction entirely and are just throwing out any ideas they can muster with retail stores/galleries being the most recent.
(Note, i am not someone who buys, or has any plans nor desires to buy any Microsoft product. But you have to be able to discuss things with an open and unbiased mind or your comments are just going to be dismissed as fanboyish, uninformed or lacking any real thought).
Who's trolling? If presenting the other side of the argument is trolling then you are in an enclosed little world.
Of course I know Mac users chose a different OS but really I couldn't give a crap, and there is entirely no need for them to point it out. I own both, that is why I came here, to see if I would need an Intel Mac to run Snow Leopard. When I got here, I discovered such a vast amount of mistruths and propaganda I decided to even the score a little.
I'm not exaggerating when I say 90% of the Mac owners I have met were pretentious wankers, however I do have to admit that I have only met a few. Until I meet some more I can only go by my experiences so far and what I read on these boards.
Exactly the sort of bollocks that I base my opinion on. NONE of that is true about Windows. Not a single drop of it.
haha. Just think of all the amazing innovative products you can see at the Microsoft store! http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/07/14/steve_ballmer_laughs_off_googles_chrome_os_threat.html
Pretty much gives my opinion of Microsoft and their future.
Pretty much gives my opinion of Microsoft and their future.
Right.. none of it, that's why industry wide millions are spent every year on/in IT departments to keep all the Win-garbage functioning.
Microsoft have a very scattered, unco-ordinated, confused brand:
Go onto Microsoft.co.uk and you're bombarded with:
Microsoft: "Your potential. Our passion" (poor strapline that is never actually used anywhere apart from their website)
Windows 7 (uninspiring)
Bing (unconnected to anything)
Microsoft TechNet (what?)
Internet Explorer
And then you try to use the navigation and are bombarded with about 80 different products.
The MS website looks as if it was designed in 1998. How on earth will they be able to create a retail presence with so many scattered brands?
MS is a jack of all trades and master of none.
You have some great points there. Microsoft even at the top and with what it spends on its marketing still feels thin.
With Windows 7 and on the hardware side with the Zune HD and Xbox 360, Microsoft needs to flesh out to the masses what you can do with Windows and the connectivity of their devices.
I stumbled upon Windows Media Center in Vista after trying out Ultimate for 30 days. I had no clue about the connectivity or extender devices that could go along with it. Windows 7 ups the ante with Homegroups and Libraries.
For the masses there's still a lot of unknowns with Microsoft's products. It'd be nice to get under the hood and know what's really available. The majority of users aren't going to take the time to research it. There's still plenty of, "I didn't know you could do that left in Windows".
You're filtering your perceptions and that's the admission right there. You come to a website that is ostensibly for Mac fanatics and then complain that you see too many Mac fanatics around and, worse, extrapolating that experience out to the rest of the world. It's like kicking a bees nest and then complaining about there being too many angry hornets buzzing around in the world.
I think if you just get outside and walk around in the real world, you'll see that there are no more Mac fanatics out there than Windows fanatics. Nobody likes cheerleading for a computer platform. I get that. I don't like it either but it's hardly confined to one brand. Your annoyance is understandable but seriously misplaced.
It's called a Tent!--)))
Hahahaha, you inspired me!
INTRODUCING THE ALL NEW "MICROSOFT STORE"!
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No see, this site is called Macrumors, not MacPropaganda, or WindowsBashingSite. When I come here I expect discussion and news, not tirades and lies.
Excellent Move From Ms --> For Apple
This is the best thing to ever happen - to Apple.
As they say any publicity is good publicity; and when you flip a coin, you get on average half probability of each side; so it is that when people will compare direct apple products to MSwindows products, many people are bound to decide in Apple's behavior. Second, just look at smartphone business. Ones who were good, actually benefitted from Apples entry into phone business by putting spotlight on smartphone business. Therefore, if anything MS will do by putting stores next to Apple, it will be to put more spotlight on Apple products; thereby increasing foot traffic to Apple store and ~90:10 ratio of todays pc:mac --> 50:50. Not to say that it will ever reach 50:50 (or it might, we never know); but the trend towards Apple will nonetheless and undoubtably increase.
my 2c.
This is the best thing to ever happen - to Apple.
As they say any publicity is good publicity; and when you flip a coin, you get on average half probability of each side; so it is that when people will compare direct apple products to MSwindows products, many people are bound to decide in Apple's behavior. Second, just look at smartphone business. Ones who were good, actually benefitted from Apples entry into phone business by putting spotlight on smartphone business. Therefore, if anything MS will do by putting stores next to Apple, it will be to put more spotlight on Apple products; thereby increasing foot traffic to Apple store and ~90:10 ratio of todays pc:mac --> 50:50. Not to say that it will ever reach 50:50 (or it might, we never know); but the trend towards Apple will nonetheless and undoubtably increase.
my 2c.
You know what, that's a great sales pitch, I think they should put your quote on a banner on one of these new stores to boost sales.
Mediocrity in volume FTW!
Ewwwwww! I don't pet the sweaty thing!
A store in an expensive location that doesn't sell stuff: Who says Microsoft can't innovate? Besides, Microsoft invented copying other companies...wasn't that being innovative in itself?
Hahahaha, you inspired me!
INTRODUCING THE ALL NEW "MICROSOFT STORE"!
Love it. All of MS's products fit in there, too.