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Microsoft Targets Motorola in Patent Lawsuit Over Android
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Perhaps there is a more formal defintion someplace for "technological giant". But I would call them that based on two things:
1. Their ability to create software (It's huge)
2. The amount of money they can put behind their software
There are very very few companies with those two attributes.
Just as anyone has the right to visually look at you from a public location, so does everyone have the right to take your picture. What can be done with the picture afterwards is where the majority of the law comes into play. But what Google does, just like the media, paparazzi, and amateur photographers, is quite legal.
You probably don't speak to your mailman, and wear a black mask around him, just in case he is a spy out to harm you? You should relax a bit, trust more. Life really is more enjoyable when you do
For a bit of context, check out the recent discussion at www.groklaw.net . At the same time when Microsoft sues Motorola, the same Microsoft, who recently was ordered by a court to pay $290 million to i4i for patent infringement, is lobbying quite heavily to make it easier for a defendant to invalidate patents in court. If Microsoft was a human being, we would call this schizophrenia.
Which - of course - is simple, fast, and almost painless.
The phone is synched with Exchange and/or your PC. A "master reset" means restoring your background bitmap, and downloading the rest from the master. Anything on the SDHC card is preserved - so the reset doesn't affect the music library, photos, etc.
Pure FUD, Mr. Hiker.
umm, bleeding edge is actually FARTHER ahead than cutting edge, the bleeding part is the otherside of the blade... make sense?
and microsoft has developed cutting edge stuff, as well as all manufactures, and also they copied alot of stuff, not 1 single company made everything on their own without at least getting the "idea" from somewhere else first and maybe improving on it.
With such a bad understanding of Android, it's no wonder you're confused. The Oracle deal is nothing like the MS situation of the early 2000s.
Dalvik, the VM, is not non-compliant. It's not even a Java Virtual Machine, why would it be in violation of the Java license ? It doesn't read in Java bytecode and doesn't execute it either. You can't run javac compiled code on it.
The claims against Dalvik by Oracle are patent claims, plain and simple. It remains to be seen if the patents hold up, just like every other patent case out there. Including Nokia's claims against Apple. Including Microsoft's claims against Motorola, etc.. Patents claims are just that, claims. No one is cheating, no one is stealing. Nothing is clear cut when it comes to patents.
The question of the Java license compliance comes from Google's use of Apache Harmony for their J2SE stack. They do not promote its use, preferring developers use the Android frameworks, but they still include it. However, it's not as clear cut as you put it, since the Apache Harmony project does not use any Sun code at all.
Microsoft got sued and lost because what they shipped as "Java" was not Java at all. They pretended their Java was 100% Java compatible when it fact it was not. They were very much fragmenting the Java market and stuff written with Visual J++ did not work on Sun's reference implementation at the time.
Google is not at all pretending Android is Java. Not a in a million years. Android is Android. It offers its own frameworks, the VM uses a different type of bytecode and is implemented free of any Sun code. While they include the J2SE stack, it is a compliant implementation of a J2SE stack.
Understand both lawsuits and both platforms before you try to make comments on it. Seriously, this stuff is so documented by now that no one should be spreading FUD like you just did.
I find it amusing that so few people know what they are talking about and refuse to take the time to go and get informed.
Well said Knight. I was going to clear this up but you beat me to it. I'm quoting the entire thing with the hopes that one person may learn something
Why can't the big bois get along in their "little" sandbox.
Hope this results in something good/productive/useful/pretty-in-pink etc.
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Side note: Microsoft software development Tools (Visual Studio) are really good, which makes me wonder why they need to make such bad client OS, their servers are pretty good.
Oh! and when will Xerox stand up and say that they want licensing money for "graphical user interface"
Hope this results in something good/productive/useful/pretty-in-pink etc.
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Side note: Microsoft software development Tools (Visual Studio) are really good, which makes me wonder why they need to make such bad client OS, their servers are pretty good.
Oh! and when will Xerox stand up and say that they want licensing money for "graphical user interface"
if you dont have an exchange server, microsoft my phone will back up everything for you (for free i might add)
but i have my work's exchange server so i dont care
i doubt ill get any other phone other than a windows based mobile now, once you switch to exchange 2010 + outlook mobile 2010 you will never go back to anything else
you get the standard Email, Calendar and contact sync with the addition of SMS and Task sync, you can send and recieve SMS from your desktop outlook as you would an email, and also if you not near your own computer, just login to OWA and you have almost all the functionality of regular outlook. its great for people that get important info through texts, because you can just backup your sms into a pst file.
Hmm. Something is odd here.
Motorola is using Android by Google, and Google did more than just license ActiveSync from Microsoft, they bought the right to even call it by their own name (Google Sync).
I think Oracle's claim is based on this - Direct quotes from here http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
"The VM is register-based, and runs classes compiled by a Java language compiler that have been transformed into the .dex format by the included "dx" tool."
Too bad I can't legally run OSX with W7 on my Dell - it's not Microsoft, Dell, or virtualization preventing me from doing so... so much for choice
You have a choice. Don't buy the Apple OS/hardware ecosystem. They sell their product with VERY clear explanations of what their licensing agreement is. If you don't like that, buy something else. That's your choice.
Complaining about this is getting SOOOO boring. It's like being mad at Ford because they won't let you move their Sync music service to your Camry. Get over it.
I got some bad news for you. Your data is probably safer on Google hands than in your own ISP hands. The reason why nobody is making any attempts to get it is because, frankly, nobody gives a **** about you or your Google-conspiracy theories.
No fan of MS, but I have to say, Google has a lot of bad karma built up when it comes to trampling the IP of others (and not just software either. Go talk to publishers and see what they think of Google Books.) Can't say I'm too bothered by someone going after Google, even indirectly like this, for their disregard for IP. You can bet if Google's IP were infringed for any of their closed source products (search, advertising, desktop software, etc.) they'd be doing exactly the same thing.
"Almost painless". What a laugh. And of course an average user won't hesitate to perform a master reset on their phone just to change an email setting.
Pure FUD, Mr Shaw.
Not really. Please be more specific.
So Microsoft isn't going to provide software to manage media and software on Phone 7 phones?
Microsoft, accusing others of copying their ideas.
Ah ah ah i agree it is just... funny!
Exactly. Poor reading comprehension. And how do you change the assigned iTMS account on your iPhone again?
Hace you ever switched iPhones? If so, have you experienced the Battery life disaster? I did on a 3GS and yes, I had to fully reset the phone.
These software functionality patents are getting really silly
You're not supposed to be able to patent stuff that isn't "inventive" in any way (triviality) - e.g. "synchronization of a state between applications". That's just a load of crap. Question is, even if it happened to slip through the patent system (which it often does, apparently), will it win appeal? It might in the US I guess...