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Microsoft Teams Getting CarPlay Integration and Device Swapping Support for Calls
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TehFalcon
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Tesla doesn't stand a chance to have sufficient market share. Keep dreaming. They can't even do quality control right, they don't allow customers to repair their own cars, don't have a dealer network, and don't even have CarPlay or android auto.
Anti consumer, and car people hate that. EV's like the VW ID series will be the king of EV's purely because they have everything I said Tesla doesn't.
Why would developers want to take valuable time to create apps for only one very small brand of cars? The entire rest of the industry has adopted CarPlay and Android Auto.
Don’t worry. There are going to get their wake up call. Ford, Gm, the entire German contingent and Hyundai/Kia are coming. In 2 to 3 years, Tesla will be holding on for dear life.
Darth Tulhu
macrumors 68020
I'm more of a noon-and-stick kinda guy. 😉
Darth Tulhu
macrumors 68020
People need to acknowledge their skill level when piloting a vehicle.
I (thankfully) have never had a major accident in 32 years of driving all over the world, and am proficient enough that operating a radio, taking calls and meetings, and having car conversations have not been an issue.
Of course, I prioritize driving the vehicle above anything else, and expect stupid, inexperienced, and or generally bad driving from ALL other people on the road.
Ever time I get in the car I'm of the mindset that someone out there will try to kill me with their incompetence.
As such, I use my phone for navigation, meetings, calls, etc, but it is placed both within easy reach and my field of vision on the dashboard, and hands free operation is enabled to the extent possible. It's more distracting to find a good station on the radio than use my phone for calls and meetings.
All that being said, I think that integrating such services REDUCES the likelihood of incidents, and the more consistent the interfaces the less time people have with their eyes NOT on the road.
I (thankfully) have never had a major accident in 32 years of driving all over the world, and am proficient enough that operating a radio, taking calls and meetings, and having car conversations have not been an issue.
Of course, I prioritize driving the vehicle above anything else, and expect stupid, inexperienced, and or generally bad driving from ALL other people on the road.
Ever time I get in the car I'm of the mindset that someone out there will try to kill me with their incompetence.
As such, I use my phone for navigation, meetings, calls, etc, but it is placed both within easy reach and my field of vision on the dashboard, and hands free operation is enabled to the extent possible. It's more distracting to find a good station on the radio than use my phone for calls and meetings.
All that being said, I think that integrating such services REDUCES the likelihood of incidents, and the more consistent the interfaces the less time people have with their eyes NOT on the road.
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ArtOfWarfare
macrumors G3
I have a third party shop that deals with my car - haven't had the slightest problem with them (The Electrified Garage in Seabrook, NH, for anyone interested - it's several former Tesla service people who decided they could deliver the same quality at a lower price and make higher pay by doing it on their own rather than as Tesla employees. They're working on setting up additional locations elsewhere.)
Tesla has stores, same as Apple - why on earth would either the company or the consumer want a dealer in the middle? That's like wanting to have to go to Walmart to buy an iMac Pro instead of being able to get it from Apple directly.
As for CarPlay and AndroidAuto, if there was a valid reason to want those, Tesla could push out a software update adding them to all vehicles going back 8 years. There isn't one though - again, it's like begging to be able to use Remote Desktop to access Microsoft Office on a Mac. If you really want that kind of experience, the car has a web browser built in - I used it to have a little Spotify app before Tesla rolled out a native one. You can also access Waze via it, but I've found that Tesla's native maps provide 95% of what Waze does and having a native app is so much nicer than a web or remote app.
Iconoclysm
macrumors 68040
If Tesla is maintaining the app then it's not going to be on par with CarPlay there either. Spotify is a bit different considering it's just a portal to streaming music, it's a simple app.
Tesla will never have more marketshare than Android or iOS, it's literally impossible. What is going to happen is Tesla is going to learn to respect the thin client in the car.
Iconoclysm
macrumors 68040
Microsoft launched Teams over a year before Cisco rebranded into WebEx Teams. This was likely done purposefully from what I've seen of Cisco's behavior in the UC space. I've seen their marketing materials that literally lie about the capabilities of their competitors.
I've migrated at least 20 different organizations of varying sizes to the Microsoft Phone System. $4.7 million for 80k endpoints is $5 a month per phone. With a migration like this, you'll find that many people do not even require the calling license as their only phone calls are from Teams to Teams. $12 a month is pretty typical from phone providers like AT&T or Verizon so I don't see how this is so bad...also consider the cost of maintaining PBXs all over the country and purchasing new ones to upgrade to get the same features you'd get from Teams.
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Iconoclysm
macrumors 68040
Volvo and Polestar as well, the Polestar 2 is probably going to put the biggest dent in Tesla yet. And next year's Volvo lineup includes a full electric XC90 that will definitely hurt the Model X/Y.
Iconoclysm
macrumors 68040
They can't just push out a software update to use those, it's really not that simple. And your comparison to Remote Desktop ends at the protocols being used. CarPlay works on multiple screens in my car, including the instrument panel. That's not just a simple RDP screen mirror, it provides completely different information and visuals there from the in-dash touch screen. There is no, absolutely none, difference between a native app and one that's coming from CarPlay or Android Auto when it comes to the user experience. I'm starting to get the impression that you've never actually used CarPlay.
MozMan68
macrumors 603
Without getting too much in the middle of these, I think you underestimate Tesla's ability to push out updates to it's cars...they've designed them that way. Even for something as complicated as CarPlay.
As long as Tesla has done the work on their end to make sure CarPlay integration works with their systems, I believe they could push out an update to add it to their vehicles.
Tesla is way more advanced and adaptable when it comes to this kind of stuff where most large car companies require you to visit a dealer to apply an update to their system...and then it would probably not work as well... 😉
Tesla has very limited models running a very similar software/hardware for every car...they could do it.
TehFalcon
macrumors 65816
I know about Electrified Garage, and if you watched RichRebuilds or talked to any of the guys there, you'd know they agree with everything I've said.
Why would consumers want a dealer in the middle? Because dealers give deals, often selling vehicles BELOW MSRP (something that cant happen when buying direct from the manufacture), you can get a car the same day instead of waiting after you have bought it (sometimes even MONTHS when buying used tesla's direct from Tesla) and the vast network of dealers gives easy access to maintenance and service, something tesla doesn't have. Your comparison to Apple is wrong too because they do have "dealers", e.g. Walmart, BestBuy,B&H, ect. That also have the ability to repair Apple Product as Authorized Apple Service Providers. These Stores/Dealers are also able to offer Devices on sale below MSRP
CarPlay and Android auto is pretty much in every new car because it's something consumers want and frankly its a better experience than what Tesla's Ui is purely because the hardware is better (Tesla's Ui is laggy especially when in maps). Tesla doesn't do what the consumer wants and thats the problem with them, not withstanding the quality issues they have.
thatsthequy
macrumors regular
Have they mentioned Teams for Apple Silicon at all? I couldn’t find any mention of it.
The entire Office Suite of products are underway. ARM ports for both M1 and Windows. Sadly Teams is an Electron app so that might make it take longer.
Iconoclysm
macrumors 68040
The reason they can't do it is because it must be licensed by Apple and requires certified authentication hardware that they certainly haven't already installed. There are rumors that Apple has started allowing a software authentication module but I've never seen it done.
This is not just a software mirroring solution with an app, there's really a lot more to it.
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Iconoclysm
macrumors 68040
Exactly, if Tesla gave a CarPlay option I wouldn't be buying a Polestar. This actually makes Tesla appear behind the times, stuck in 2010.
MozMan68
macrumors 603
They CAN do it...they simply DON'T do it.
Apple isn't preventing them...Tesla, like most car companies with their awful built-in navigation and UI's, just think they can do it better or provide a better "experience" that is part of their brand. Tesla's big huge iPad sized map and controls is part of that and are unwilling to modify their experience to allow CarPlay or Android Auto to take up any of that screen real estate.
With Tesla, I almost understand due to their relatively small size nd the fact that they were really the first to embrace a large touch screen in their vehicles to control/view everything....but the larger companies would be better off to consolidate that part of the experience to Apple/Google in lieu of their own software. The issue with that of course (which none of us on a website like this consider too much) is that there is a LARGE swath of people out there who do not use an Apple or Android product (I'm looking at you..in-laws with your Trac Phones not accepting my free offer of iPhones for the two of you because you're "not those kind of people...")
Iconoclysm
macrumors 68040
I agree with everything you're saying, they're trying to create a closed ecosystem. But there is a hardware module that authenticates the user that needs to be installed. Also, USB module requirements that let you send touch screen inputs to the phone. And H.264 hardware that I'm not sure can be repurposed. And if they want it to be wireless carplay, a dual radio wifi module. So they can't just add the software if these things aren't in place.
I seriously doubt that people who don't own an iPhone or Android phone happen to have a Tesla.
Thanks for that - still working from home mostly and soon moving to hybrid working so I will testing this out more.