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As I posted in a more obscure thread,

Never forget that the zune brought us this:

http://static.flickr.com/103/294929001_b67b0b5225.jpg

I still find it a little disturbing but I think it's also possibly the single funniest thing I've ever seen involving Microsoft.

I have never actually used a zune. They looked ok really, except the brown one (IMHO).

Everytime you buy a Zune an Asian girl has an orgasm...
 
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"Microsoft to Kill Off Development of New Zune Hardware"

Was it Microsoft, or was it Capitalism?
 
Seriously?

Zune was still alive? :eek:

In any case, hardly surprising. I like Microsoft software, but they sure can suck out the excitement of doing just about anything.
 
Microsoft has responded, as usual a vicious and inaccurate rumour has been swirled out of hand by the Apple "community":

There's been a TON of traffic about the Bloomberg article that posted today - plus I noticed they updated the article a few hours ago:

“We have nothing to announce about another Zune device -- but most recently have introduced Zune HD to Canada via the Zune Originals store and remain committed to supporting our devices in North America,” the company said in an e-mailed statement. “We are thrilled by the consumer excitement for Zune across many new platforms, including Windows Phone 7 and Xbox 360. Our long-term strategy focuses on the strength of the entire Zune ecosystem across Microsoft platforms.”

I've had tweets, emails, PMs and phone calls. People offering condolences, checking in on me, etc... etc... Stop, stop, stop!

The Bloomberg article is NOT an official statement from Microsoft (apart from the quote above). The headline is purportedly from a "person familiar with the matter" - which of course tells you nothing.

Here's what you should know - ALL consumer electronics products have a lifespan, and the Zune HD is 18mo old. We were completely frank about this year's Zune hardware being the WP7 phones, and we continue to both sell and fully support the Zune HD line of products. And as I've promised - we continue to bring new apps and games to the platform. More of those are in the works, I promise you.

I manage business development for Zune hardware, and I still have that job. Our PR folks released a statement today that included the text: "We’ll share more information about the evolution of the Zune entertainment service and Zune hardware as future plans develop."

To be 100% clear - NO information about our future plans, no matter what the incarnation, has been shared. Until then treat with healthy skepticism anything you read. That's probably a good general rule actually.

So for those who tweeted or emailed asking what I'm "going to do now" - I'll be going to work tomorrow, working on Zune hardware bizdev. And when Microsoft announces news that is actually news, you'll hear it from us directly, and I'll be sure to pass it on immediately. Only then should you take it as gospel.

Cheers, Dave.

http://anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62057
 
I have been a Windows Phone user since day 1 when it was launched and to be honest, Microsoft beat Apple at their own game. Making a shiny awesome looking software. To be honest, because of WP I am sure I won't by any other OS. I mean, all other OS(s) look so 2007 now, especially the iPhone.I just can't buy anything else, it feels outdated.


In the end, I sold my WP (HTC HD7) in late February because of the ****** battery (yes..1230 mAh in a 4.3" screen !! but I didn't expect to be that crap) and my next touchscreen phone would a Nokia WP, that coming somewhere in mid 2012 at eariest ..

Anyway, my point is to do not underestimate Zune. It's a very good software, modern. It's just that Microsoft is ..well..not very good with marketing I guess..
 
The Microsoft phone will follow this death shortly. They really just need to abandon the hardware endeavor completely and use those resources to create a solid and stable operating system. Funny how Microsoft side barred into all of these other areas, yet their main source of revenue, Windows, is still a steamy pile.
 
The Microsoft phone will follow this death shortly. They really just need to abandon the hardware endeavor completely and use those resources to create a solid and stable operating system. Funny how Microsoft side barred into all of these other areas, yet their main source of revenue, Windows, is still a steamy pile.

Uh, Microsoft doesn't make any phones. They already do exactly what you described - make a great phone OS for other manufacturers to use. HTC, Samsung, LG have released phones using it so far and Nokia are planning new devices using it soon.
 
Where's your iPod killer now, Ballmer?

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I have been a Windows Phone user since day 1 when it was launched and to be honest, Microsoft beat Apple at their own game. Making a shiny awesome looking software. To be honest, because of WP I am sure I won't by any other OS. I mean, all other OS(s) look so 2007 now, especially the iPhone.I just can't buy anything else, it feels outdated.


In the end, I sold my WP (HTC HD7) in late February because of the ****** battery (yes..1230 mAh in a 4.3" screen !! but I didn't expect to be that crap) and my next touchscreen phone would a Nokia WP, that coming somewhere in mid 2012 at eariest ..

Anyway, my point is to do not underestimate Zune. It's a very good software, modern. It's just that Microsoft is ..well..not very good with marketing I guess..

I guess their marketing includes having some people troll forums dedicated to other manufacturer's products....:rolleyes:
 
My colleague has one and I have to say that I am impressed by the Zune. It's as good, if not better than any portable media player on the market and I loved the brown shell. The problem is that Microsoft doesn't know how to play from behind the competition, especially with a device that only serves one purpose and can't really be improved enough to catch people's attention. It was a silly decision to jump in the market so late in the game. Apple's market share in this sector was insurmountable.
 
wow, setting your bars pretty high, huh? 2 years. top 3. bold statement

If the majority of this forum (not adressing or insulting you) would take of their Apple glasses, they would see the reality or at least the potential of the Windows Phone. I love my mac, but I am not biased to some cult.

Windows Phone launched in November, since then they managed to deliver 10k+ apps (and no, 70% of them aren't spam) ! Faster than both iOS and Android app growth rate when they launched. Of course, Microsoft needs to play catch up right now but they surely DID deliver an almost bug-free system right out the box.
Add that (apparently) they managed to sell around 600K+ phones only in February and the total is now around 2.5 million .. NOT bad for a starter, eh ?
Microsoft spent half a bilion only on advertising. They also "bought" Nokia for 1 billion. They basically bought the best hardware manufacturer (IMO, a smartphone in 2011 with a price of >400$ made of plastic is a cheap joke! No wonder about that 500$ laptop Steve quote ..) thus being able to penetrate markets worldwide much faster. Nokia is still #1 in terms of popularity at least. Agressive to say the least..

Have you actually used a WP? Every single time someone watched mine or played with it they went totally wow. Updates are coming and scheduled already.

Joe Belfiore (the "chief" of WP department) was invited to AllThingsD and while being bashed by that old man Apple fanboy he kept his calm and also stayed totally pro also providing a 2-year time to become a big player.

Android is now where it is because of the time they hit, not because of providing a better experience than iOS. They were the first to fight iOS while others were still cooking their own OS or were still using Symbian lol. It's still a laggy OS even with dual cores for crying out loud.
I am not saying WP is going to beat iOS in 2 years, no way but I see it as Microsoft most ambitious project since 360. And look where that got.
 
The problem is that Microsoft doesn't know how to play from behind the competition, especially with a device that only serves one purpose and can't really be improved enough to catch people's attention. It was a silly decision to jump in the market so late in the game.

Bingo. Microsoft saw another industry that was making money so they decided to jump in to try and cash in the new cow.

Considering that both Sony and Microsoft have a diverse range of products (game consoles, phones, computers, software), it's surprising that neither of them have been able to make larger strides with their respective offerings.

I've only known two people who owned a Zune. One was a Windows sysadmin (now interested in iOS development), and the other was a person who likely was trying to avoid the mainstream by NOT getting an iPod.
 
If the majority of this forum (not adressing or insulting you) would take of their Apple glasses, they would see the reality or at least the potential of the Windows Phone. I love my mac, but I am not biased to some cult.

Pot meet kettle.

We can summarize your post simply as "I own a WP7 device and I love it." (which is great) The rest of it seems to be of the same ilk which criticize others.
 
unsurprising really. Who can compete with apple? I'm not even sure there's space for microsoft even if they reposition themselves in the smartphone market

They could if they would stop copying or running AFTER Apple.

How about getting the xbox down to a size that is easily taken along (Full experience, not pocket version PSP type), run it with touch and onscreen controllers or the suction cup controllers which have already produced.

You can combine it with a tablet and now you have something kids will drive their parents crazy for.
How about evolving their products instead of always new and unproven and abandoned when it doesn't sell.
 
If the majority of this forum (not adressing or insulting you) would take of their Apple glasses, they would see the reality or at least the potential of the Windows Phone. I love my mac, but I am not biased to some cult.

Windows Phone launched in November, since then they managed to deliver 10k+ apps (and no, 70% of them aren't spam) ! Faster than both iOS and Android app growth rate when they launched. Of course, Microsoft needs to play catch up right now but they surely DID deliver an almost bug-free system right out the box.
Add that (apparently) they managed to sell around 600K+ phones only in February and the total is now around 2.5 million .. NOT bad for a starter, eh ?
Microsoft spent half a bilion only on advertising. They also "bought" Nokia for 1 billion. They basically bought the best hardware manufacturer (IMO, a smartphone in 2011 with a price of >400$ made of plastic is a cheap joke! No wonder about that 500$ laptop Steve quote ..) thus being able to penetrate markets worldwide much faster. Nokia is still #1 in terms of popularity at least. Agressive to say the least..

Have you actually used a WP? Every single time someone watched mine or played with it they went totally wow. Updates are coming and scheduled already.

Joe Belfiore (the "chief" of WP department) was invited to AllThingsD and while being bashed by that old man Apple fanboy he kept his calm and also stayed totally pro also providing a 2-year time to become a big player.

Android is now where it is because of the time they hit, not because of providing a better experience than iOS. They were the first to fight iOS while others were still cooking their own OS or were still using Symbian lol. It's still a laggy OS even with dual cores for crying out loud.
I am not saying WP is going to beat iOS in 2 years, no way but I see it as Microsoft most ambitious project since 360. And look where that got.

That's one way of looking at it.

Another would be that Microsoft managed to fumble away a substantial foothold in the mobile marketplace before delivering WP7, while watching Apple and Google stake their claims.
 
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