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About 3 years too late... Apple was right when they said the iPhone was years ahead of the competition. By then we'll be on Firmware 5.0 with a few hundred thousand apps on the App Store.
 
At least Apple is there providing an alternative making sure Microsoft doesn't have a 100 percent share of desktop OS. Where are the other companies stepping to the plate to provide alternatives consumers can buy in stores? So much for choice, lol.

At least MS is providing an alternative with Zune and the rumored phone making sure that Apple doesn't have a 100% of the PMP market. It's funny how mac fanboys suggest MS get rid of Zune and then use the quoted excuse when Macs are brought in.

As for the Windows monopoly goes, both Apple and MS had equal opportunity to take the market when they were both young. Apple was arrogant and MS took advantage of it. Don't blame MS, blame Apple. MS made the best out of the situation though innovative business strategies.
 
Yeah I'm sure Apple has been pouring billions into Macs while making no money of them. :rolleyes:

Except MS have recently started making profits from the Xboxes. And top of that once the hardware problems are completely solved, they will have a non stop source of revenue through the Xbox Live subscriptions. Mac users are quick to use the "market share != quality" when it comes to Mac vs Pc arguments, but when it comes to MS products, they use a different standard. Hypocritical. Like I said, lets see Apple enter the gaming market and make as much difference as MS did in the time frame.
 
True, but Apple went out and got Jobs back. Jobs oversaw the iMac and then the iPod. M$ is stuck w/ Ballmer. He's a great cheerleader, but innovator he is not. Nearly every major product he has launched aside from Windows and Office has come up 2nd or worse.

WHY IN THE BLODDY &@#^ don't the Microsoft share holders move to get Ballmer FIRED??? He is such a waste of flesh! With all the money Microsoft has they could afford to hire brilliant people, and I'm sure some already work there, but with Ballmer at the helm they will NEVER be an innovative and wildly successful company PERIOD! It boggles my mind that he wasn't fired years and years ago and that he ever became C.E.O. in the first place. Talk about riding Bill Gates' coat tales GEEZE! :rolleyes:
 
At least MS is providing an alternative with Zune and the rumored phone making sure that Apple doesn't have a 100% of the PMP market. It's funny how mac fanboys suggest MS get rid of Zune and then use the quoted excuse when Macs are brought in.

As for the Windows monopoly goes, both Apple and MS had equal opportunity to take the market when they were both young. Apple was arrogant and MS took advantage of it. Don't blame MS, blame Apple. MS made the best out of the situation though innovative business strategies.

Which is why when I walk into Best Buy I see mp3 and PMP from Archos, Sony, Samsung, Sansa, Microsoft, Phillips, RCA, Coby, Cowon, and a plethora of others. Even with all these companies making mp3 players and PMP Apple still has 70 percent of the market. If I want smartphones I can use smartphones with many different OS from iphone, blackberry, windows mobile, symbian, webOS, android, etc. If I want a cheap phone I have a plethora of choice. Meanwhile if I go to Best Buy the only alternative to the Windows monopoly are Macs, so much for consumer choice. :rolleyes:
 
Except MS have recently started making profits from the Xboxes. And top of that once the hardware problems are completely solved, they will have a non stop source of revenue through the Xbox Live subscriptions. Mac users are quick to use the "market share != quality" when it comes to Mac vs Pc arguments, but when it comes to MS products, they use a different standard. Hypocritical. Like I said, lets see Apple enter the gaming market and make as much difference as MS did in the time frame.

Yeah just like they couldn't make any difference in the smartphone and mp3 markets. I'm sure if Apple threw 6 billion dollars while taking up huge losses, they could make as much of a difference as any company. Meanwhile we all see how successful Zunes are, lol.
 
Which is why when I walk into Best Buy I see mp3 and PMP from Archos, Sony, Samsung, Sansa, Microsoft, Phillips, RCA, Coby, Cowon, and a plethora of others. Even with all these companies making mp3 players and PMP Apple still has 70 percent of the market. If I want smartphones I can use smartphones with many different OS from iphone, blackberry, windows mobile, symbian, webOS, android, etc. If I want a cheap phone I have a plethora of choice. Meanwhile if I go to Best Buy the only alternative to the Windows monopoly are Macs, so much for consumer choice. :rolleyes:

Eh, you can buy laptops and netbooks with Linux from various companies like Asus, Dell, HP. There's your consumer choice right there.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ation_point_for_ipod_itunes_use_by_teens.html

on the other hand, apple's market share of pmp's is definitely greater than the 70 percent you've mentioned.
 
Yeah just like they couldn't make any difference in the smartphone and mp3 markets. I'm sure if Apple threw 6 billion dollars while taking up huge losses, they could make as much of a difference as any company. Meanwhile we all see how successful Zunes are, lol.

Meanwhile we all see how successful Macs are, lol, even after Apple focusing on them for so many years and spending so much money. It's almost like they gave up on Macs because with all their effort they just couldn't crack it and looked for something else to do.

So far we've MS winning in OS and games console and Apple winning in PMPs and phones.

Let me remind you that you're the one praising Macs for providing competition while bashing Zune for being a failure when it provides competition as well. Hypocrite.
 
Eh, you can buy laptops and netbooks with Linux from various companies like Asus, Dell, HP. There's your consumer choice right there.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ation_point_for_ipod_itunes_use_by_teens.html

on the other hand, apple's market share of pmp's is definitely greater than the 70 percent you've mentioned.

Yawn if those Linux netbooks were selling crazy, how come 95 percent of shipping netbooks come with XP. When I walk in Best Buy or any other electronics retailer I don't see any Linux computers, all I see are PCs and in some places Macs. Linux is mostly irrelevant.

As for the 70 percent, go listen to Apple's recent earnings report.
 
Yawn if those Linux netbooks were selling crazy, how come 95 percent of shipping netbooks come with XP. When I walk in Best Buy or any other electronics retailer I don't see any Linux computers, all I see are PCs and in some places Macs. Linux is mostly irrelevant.

The choice is still there. Don't blame MS if people decide not to buy Linux. Linux is not irrelevant. I've seen plenty of retailers selling eee pcs with linux for example. Anyway I am off to bed.
 
Yawn if those Linux netbooks were selling crazy, how come 95 percent of shipping netbooks come with XP. When I walk in Best Buy or any other electronics retailer I don't see any Linux computers, all I see are PCs and in some places Macs. Linux is mostly irrelevant.

As for the 70 percent, go listen to Apple's recent earnings report.

That 95% number is only Brick and Morter sales, and doesn't include online sales. That being said, I don't see Linux netbook share being greater than 15%
 
Also what's up with macrumors and posting microsoft rumors? it's the same with any apple blog as well. just avoid microsoft rumors altogether please.
 
Meanwhile we all see how successful Macs are, lol, even after Apple focusing on them for so many years and spending so much money. It's almost like they gave up on Macs because with all their effort they just couldn't crack it and looked for something else to do.

So far we've MS winning in OS and games console and Apple winning in PMPs and phones.

Let me remind you that you're the one praising Macs for providing competition while bashing Zune for being a failure when it provides competition as well. Hypocrite.

They gave up on Macs, what a freaking joke, of all the companies that stood up to Microsoft, only Apple is left, and they've found a niche and are making tons of money of it. You don't have to have 90 percent of the market to make money. Apple also competes against the likes of Dell and HP and have nice profit margins on their Macs that those companies wish they had. The Macs are a success for Apple, you can try and diminish it all you want.

Last time I checked Apple doesn't make a game console, it's like saying Apple is winning in retail stores against Microsoft when Microsoft doesnt even have their own stores. As for the Zune, yes its not successful, which is why its losing money for Microsoft and hasn't done much to establish itself and has become a money losing venture. I guess that's success for you, lol.
 
I've seen plenty of retailers selling eee pcs with linux for example.

And the statistics show that many of the Linux models are returned to the retailer after the customer realizes the mistake.

Ubuntu Confirms Linux Netbook Returns Higher than Anticipated

October 6th, 2008 by Joanna Stern

MSI candidly told us that Linux netbooks see a 4 times higher return rate than netbooks that are preloaded with Windows XP. The comment has attracted lots of comments and interpretations about Linux OSes on netbooks across the Net.

http://blog.laptopmag.com/ubuntu-confirms-linux-netbook-returns-higher-than-anticpated

Type "linux netbook return" into your favorite non-monopolistic search engine for many, many more stories like this.
 
The choice is still there. Don't blame MS if people decide not to buy Linux. Linux is not irrelevant. I've seen plenty of retailers selling eee pcs with linux for example. Anyway I am off to bed.

Which retailers are selling eee pcs with linux, all I see on those netbooks are Windows XP, Linux is practically irrelevant for the average dude, which is why they have no store presence.
 
That 95% number is only Brick and Morter sales, and doesn't include online sales. That being said, I don't see Linux netbook share being greater than 15%

I doubt their share is that high, most people are returning the Linux netbooks once they realize they aren't using Windows, lol.
 
Let me remind you that you're the one praising Macs for providing competition while bashing Zune for being a failure when it provides competition as well. Hypocrite.

Now, I don't really know what's been going on between the two of you, but while both provide competition, Macs sell well and perform well. Zunes don't.
 
I support Apple and all, but Microsoft is 10 times the size of Apple (probably more), you won't see Microsoft going anywhere for a long time.

The list of players in what was once called the "Micro-computer" market that have left the field is long, and full of many big established names. Their main failings were (1) inability to innovate, (2) inability to adjust to a rapidly evolving market.

I believe that as long as Balmer is in charge of Microsoft it will continue to marginalize itself into irrelevantcy. He clearly lacks the vision to see the "next great thing" until it is already off and running. The current enterprise market for efficiency tools is changing and evolving too fast to use 1980s strategy to copy what the market is buying.

Balmer was quoted as saying, early on, that the iPhone wasn't going to sell, the phone market was too mature, and besides the Mobile PC OS was well established and fit their plan.

Now that the iPhone/ApStore combo is eating everyone's lunch, Microsoft is mumbling about, "Well we can do that too." The problem is, the inertia toward the iPhone is high, Apple has established a very viable product in the enterprise market as well as the consumer market, and is about to raise the bar once again with an improved iPhone and a new "Next Great Thing."

Microsoft got where they were by riding into the enterprise market on the coat tails of Digital Research and IBM. They ripped off Apple's GUI with windows to hold onto their market. As for innovation they have not innovated as much as they have purchased small companies who did innovate. This extended from user software such as spreadsheets to IT products such as networking software. I don't see them showing any ability to be innovative...the top guy just doesn't have the vision to drive the company past 1980s thinking.
 
Uh, goody, another bumbling half wit has stepped up to the plate, this should be good for a laugh at least.

Alas, Uncle Billy, monkey see money do, does not always equal monkey win, just that one time were you got lucky.
 
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